City Council Meeting 26 November 2002

I took some of the following information from e-mails and from other Folsom Forum items, (I hope those people do not mind).

I also know that some people do not put their names out on these boards, but I will.

Subject: Rezone - 40 acres is coming back

My wife and I went to the Friday, November 22 meeting
at the Folsom Rotary Clubhouse. The meeting was set up
by Marilyn Gautschi so Dan Chartraw could present his
proposal to acquire and develop the City's property and FCUSD
property near Folsom High School.

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Below are parts of a message that Nagesh forwarded to
me:

"The developer did a good job of presenting what they
propose to build there - basically around 200 single
family homes of which 60 (30 %) are low income homes.
All homes are on small lots - less than 6000 sq. ft
lot size. The low income homes are on corner sites and
they are 'duets' - two homes share a wall, from garage
all the way to the back. Since they are on corner
sites, both could have their front door on either side
of the road. To do this, the developer is asking for
the 14 acre FCUSD property, the two 10 acre city
property, the 7.2 acre city property (park land), and
11.8 acre city property behind the school.
The developer passed around some photographs of what
the homes might look like (from a similar project?).
Overall the project does not look bad.
However, there is one major issue. To achieve this,
they are asking that we agree to rezone ANOTHER 11.8
acres of land to MFHD (R-4) - this is in ADDITION to
the 27.2 acres that have already been rezoned,
bringing it to a total of approx. 40 acres of MFHD
land around the high school (gets us back to where we
started!!!). I went to this meeting thinking that all
of us would only be looking at what the project/ homes
might look like, but I was taken by complete surprise
at the attempt to get us to agree to rezone another
11.8 acres to MFHD. I am sure if this was published as
an agenda item, there would be many more out there
opposing it.
The way it is being projected is that if we do not
agree to this, then all will break loose and the judge
will be on our door step January 1st, doing what ever
they want (and as somebody put it - it may not be a
bad idea at all - we have a better chance at not
getting a cluster here!
From what I heard and learnt from others, this is only
a very remote possibility given that everyone - the
staff, the council and the citizens are working hard
to solve the problem.
From what I see, there are two issues here - one of
solving the 128 acre problem by end of December, and
the other of building a nice community next to the
high school. The two should not be mixed - let us
solve the 128 acre problem first. Let us find land
else where to satisfy the agreement, without coming
back to the land around the high school - yes, it
might be easy since the city owns it, but, no, this
should not be it."

End of parts of Nagesh's message forwarded to me:

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Here are some of my comments:

1. First of all only around 20 people attended the
meeting at the clubhouse Friday evening, and some
of them were from the city government and other real
estate agencies. More people should have attended.

2. I think the city of Folsom needs the money from the
sale of this land.

3. The developer (BLAS- wants not only the 27 acres
already rezoned to R-4 but an additional 11 acres
below the resevoir. The city council agreed to pull I
think around 4 acres off the board at the last
meeting. Now the developer wants the city council to
approve the 4 that was pulled off plus another 7 for a
full 11 acres south of the resevoir. This would give
him around 40 acres of property to put his designed
development on. The 7 acres north of the resevoir is
supposed to be park land.

4. If the city agrees to all of this then BLAS-B, I
guess, will then also purchase the 14.375 acres of
property owned by FCUSD.

5. I looks like the developer needs the whole of these
properties to make it work.

6. We already have 27 acres of property rezones to R-4
near the high school and do not need any more there. I
say we do not allow anymore property to be rezoned in
this area. The 11 acres below the resevoir should not
be rezoned. If this causes the deal with BLAS-B to
fall through, FINE.

7. Let's get through the 128 acres of rezones before
we start dealing with developers and real estate
agents.

8. To take a comment from a person that posted the
following on the My Folsom Forum. klsx2

Quote: It never ceases to amaze me how our own
representatives continue to try and pull the wool over
our eyes. We originally started this battle for land
around the high school because we thought it
completely unacceptable to place a huge portion of the
rezoning in a single area, especially around the high
school. Our council took note of this fact and say
that they have heard us, yet when you pull back the
covers of this developers proposal you will find that
not only are they looking for us to be happy with the
existing 20 acres already rezoned MFHD, but that they
now wish to add in an additional 11 acres at the
southern end of the resevoir. Now if you attended the
meeting and looked at the plans I will admit that the
drawings and the talk was all very polished and looked
good. However, this is still the same old stinking
wreck of a car that we turned down earlier, just it
has a shiny new coat of paint and now has an oil leak
that wasn't there before. Meanwhile the developer, the
broker, and our councilwoman are saying buy it quick,
don't mind the problems because the big bad wolf is
coming to get you (Legal Services/Some Judge).
Unquote.

9. We do have the responsibility of rezoning 128 acres
so we can meet our requirements. I feel that if
BLAS-B purchases the FCUSD property (14.375 acres)
and also this other 21 acres, already rezoned R-4, and
if the city council approves the additional 11 acres
south of the resevoir, this will give the developer 32
acres of R-4 and 14.375 acres of commercial property.
Who says that after BLAS-B purchases the FCUSD from
the high school district that he won't also request
Folsom to rezone that 14.375 acres to R-4 so he can
develope that into high density housing. The city does
not control that land like it does the other 32 acres.

Enough said, please attend the next city council
meeting tomorrow evening, 26 November at 6:30 PM.

Calvin May

Placed under 9 November city council agenda..

camay

Okay, just one more time. FCUSD sold that property to Bob Cook.

They may have sold it to Bob Cook, but BLAS-B is going to develop it...

Look at the city council agenda...

Cal: I was referring to these couple of comments.

Tessieca, I think we are talking about the same property. The property the school sold, you say to Bob Cook. I could be mistaken but I believe that land is going to be developed by BLAS-B. I am not sure but just what I have been lead to believe.

Maybe I will find out tomorrow evening at the city council meeting.


If anyone knows for sure, email me...


Cal