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#1 john

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Posted 10 September 2008 - 11:56 AM

Hey everyone - this was forwarded to me and I figured everyone should have a heads up.

"Yesterday, my son Nic (age 13) was at his friends house in Empire Ranch. They were in the garage working on bicycles. He noticed a man in a large white van (not minivan) sitting in his car watching them. His friend lives within view of Empire Oaks Elementary. When Nic went to leave at about 5pm the man was driving around the elementary in the bus loop slowly and watching him. There was a man in the passenger seat with a mask on. Nic described it as one of the rubber masks that looks like a president or regular person. He followed my son, and drove by him several times, the last time with the sliding door to the back of the van open. Nic went into a sales office for a new home community and stayed there.

We have filed a police report but would like to make sure everyone who has kids has all the information that we can provide. Other details of the van were wire grids on the back windows (back doors) and the hood was very rusted. My son did not get a really good look at the driver but said he believed he was 'kind of old' with whitish blonde hair and a scruffy look like he hadn't shaved.

The police did mention to us that Tuesday is the day most circulars are sent out and there is a possibility that this van may have been doing that but he also had no doubt that he could have been following my son a signifigant way.

Please forward this to anyone you know with children!!!!"


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Posted 10 September 2008 - 12:05 PM

YIKES, thanks for posting.

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:18 AM

If this is true, it's some scary stuff. Who delivers circulars wearing a rubber mask?These van guys sound to me like more people who might need some lead in their diet.

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:21 AM

So is this the same van that was found to be delivering Yellow pages phone books? Or are there multiple van like this around town? Seems to me the soccer Mom's are playing detective and sparking fear for no real reason other than to keep their lives exciting between eating bon bons and drinking Martini's all day.
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:24 AM

Do all these suspicious vehicles lately have license plates???

Am I missing something...??? smile.gif
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:25 AM

QUOTE(Darthvader @ Sep 11 2008, 09:21 AM) View Post
So is this the same van that was found to be delivering Yellow pages phone books? Or are there multiple van like this around town? Seems to me the soccer Mom's are playing detective and sparking fear for no real reason other than to keep their lives exciting between eating bon bons and drinking Martini's all day.

you do not have kids, you do not understand. rolleyes.gif

And quit calling ALL of Folsom moms Soccer Moms.... you sound so ignorant. boo.gif
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:28 AM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Sep 11 2008, 09:24 AM) View Post
Do all these suspicious vehicles lately have license plates???

Am I missing something...??? smile.gif

There have been several occasions for me personally, when I tried to get a license plate, but typically, I'm moving, and so are they, and I'm unable to read it.
Just happened to me yesterday, with a teenage driver who was speeding and running stop signs in my neighborhood. I couldn't even tell the make of the vehicle - just that it was a smaller-sized silver station wagon (maybe a BMW...)

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:34 AM

QUOTE(EDH Jen @ Sep 11 2008, 09:28 AM) View Post
There have been several occasions for me personally, when I tried to get a license plate, but typically, I'm moving, and so are they, and I'm unable to read it.
Just happened to me yesterday, with a teenage driver who was speeding and running stop signs in my neighborhood. I couldn't even tell the make of the vehicle - just that it was a smaller-sized silver station wagon (maybe a BMW...)

I know, but these recently have been stopped vehicles...I don't get it?

Even a partial plate is helpful to law enforcement!!
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#9 Andrea V

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:36 AM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Sep 11 2008, 09:34 AM) View Post
I know, but these recently have been stopped vehicles...I don't get it?

Even a partial plate is helpful to law enforcement!!

Not everyone gets a chance to catch the plate....

especially scared kids.
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:36 AM

QUOTE(Darthvader @ Sep 11 2008, 09:21 AM) View Post
So is this the same van that was found to be delivering Yellow pages phone books? Or are there multiple van like this around town? Seems to me the soccer Mom's are playing detective and sparking fear for no real reason other than to keep their lives exciting between eating bon bons and drinking Martini's all day.


Dude, what is wrong with just a reinforcement every now and then to keep an eye out for suspicious activity? Even if it's a false alarm, it's good to talk to your kids and help them recognize risks. I think it's great this kid had the smarts to protect himself. We'll probably never know if it was a false alarm, but it's OK to be on guard for such things.


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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE(john @ Sep 11 2008, 09:36 AM) View Post
Dude, what is wrong with just a reinforcement every now and then to keep an eye out for suspicious activity? Even if it's a false alarm, it's good to talk to your kids and help them recognize risks. I think it's great this kid had the smarts to protect himself. We'll probably never know if it was a false alarm, but it's OK to be on guard for such things.

Thank you John. That is just what I was thinking. smile.gif
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE(Darthvader @ Sep 11 2008, 09:21 AM) View Post
sparking fear for no real reason other than to keep their lives exciting between eating bon bons and drinking Martini's all day.

This might not be P.C. on this forum, but

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE(Darthvader @ Sep 11 2008, 09:21 AM) View Post
So is this the same van that was found to be delivering Yellow pages phone books? Or are there multiple van like this around town? Seems to me the soccer Mom's are playing detective and sparking fear for no real reason other than to keep their lives exciting between eating bon bons and drinking Martini's all day.


I'm afraid with the sagging economy, Darth, us soccer moms have had to downgrade to Ding Dongs & lite beer.

Oh, and I hate it when they leave those stupid phone books on my porch. That's reason enough to turn them in. First of all, Hello!, there's the Internet; and, second of all, I swear they are making the print smaller and smaller and I can't even read the phone numbers anyway.

On topic, if my kid came home with that story I'd definitely be alarmed, too.

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:43 AM

QUOTE(Andrea V @ Sep 11 2008, 09:36 AM) View Post
Not everyone gets a chance to catch the plate....

especially scared kids.

Especially scared anybody.
I witnessed an auto fatality once and I remember being on the phone with 911, my 2 (very little at the time) kids completely freaked by what they saw, I was freaked, and I'm trying to read an upside-down license plate with an ejected body right by it. I don't think I was even forming complete sentences at that point.
If you're a scared little kid, you ONLY thought is getting yourself to safety - as it should be.

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 08:51 AM

QUOTE(EDH Jen @ Sep 11 2008, 09:43 AM) View Post
Especially scared anybody.
I witnessed an auto fatality once and I remember being on the phone with 911, my 2 (very little at the time) kids completely freaked by what they saw, I was freaked, and I'm trying to read an upside-down license plate with an ejected body right by it. I don't think I was even forming complete sentences at that point.
If you're a scared little kid, you ONLY thought is getting yourself to safety - as it should be.

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