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[kanda]

This project (or one very similar) was proposed a few years ago, and it was shot down due to public outcry. But they are at it again.

For complete details, and to learn what can be done to help stop this from happening, visit:
http://empireranch.calhomenet.com/

[kanda]

I forgot to mention that there will be a petition signing at McFarland Park (that's the one by the school on East Natoma) today, Friday, from 4-7pm, and tomorrow, Saturday, from 3-6pm.

Please try to stop by and sign the petition.

[mylo]

I'm still amazed to see such rapid condo development in this housing market. It's certainly an indicator of builder confidence.

[gm2005]

It sure is weird to see them build that much in this market. The condo units on Empire Ranch and Iron point are still mostly empty.
Plus, does anybody know if the condo owners pay the same associate fees, mello roose etc?

[Dave Burrell]

I'm still amazed to see such rapid condo development in this housing market. It's certainly an indicator of builder confidence.

its an indicator of builder greed. the housing market here in Cali is already overloaded with too many houses & condos for sale - thats a huge factor in why the market is tanking - too much supply for the existing demand

its stupid to continue building condos and housing tracts when the existing homes and condos aren't selling

[ChipShot]

its an indicator of builder greed. the housing market here in Cali is already overloaded with too many houses & condos for sale - thats a huge factor in why the market is tanking - too much supply for the existing demand

its stupid to continue building condos and housing tracts when the existing homes and condos aren't selling

Maybe their pricing structure will be much more "realistic" than what the market has seen lately, and thus hoping to sell 'em fairly quickly. I dunno, but my guess is as good as your guess...

[Ichibon]

No way do we want to see this condo project. Sign me up!

[BuffaloRon]

Why should Empire Ranch be any different than any other housing division in Folsom? Do you feel that the families that have purchased homes in this area have an exclusive on the land? You can fight it, but you will not be able to defer city hall's ideas. They'll just rezone. Build it and they will come...

[mylo]

The website linked proposes "40 to 50 luxury condos"... on 12 acres?

By my math that means each condo gets 1/3rd of an acre.

Most SFH's in Empire Rancho don't have lots that big!

[supermom]

The more the merrier!

Shoot down the ridiculous prices!!

Yay, where can I sign a petition for the building of it?

snootyism is so tiring.

[Barb J]

Supermom: what is snooty about this issue to you? I don't understand why it is so black and white to you. Do you think that because I don't want the project as proposed that I am against any multi-family project in that location? That's pretty snooty of you to assume that.

Barb J

[supermom]

Supermom: what is snooty about this issue to you? I don't understand why it is so black and white to you. Do you think that because I don't want the project as proposed that I am against any multi-family project in that location? That's pretty snooty of you to assume that.

Barb J

naw- but I thinks it's snooty to assume that all areas of Folsom east of E. Bidwell street should be off limits to city zoning for multi familiy housing. It appears that that attitude is perceived by many. I didn't call you specifically snooty.

Kinda wierd you took it that way. I'm enjoying my day too much to be offended though

[Barb J]

I think if you had read the website that was referred to in this post you would see that the argument is against the number of units. We are resigned to the fact that the City will change the zoning, our fight is against the density.

As for this area not having any multi-family, we are bordered on both ends by condo's and apartments! Do we need more? That is a valid question that we can debate. But to just label those who are passionate about this issue as snooty is shortsighted unless you know what the debate is about.

BTW: if you reread my post, I didn't say you called me snooty, I asked what was snooty about the ISSUE.

Barb

[Barb J]

The website linked proposes "40 to 50 luxury condos"... on 12 acres?

By my math that means each condo gets 1/3rd of an acre.

Most SFH's in Empire Rancho don't have lots that big!

I am not an expert on this issue, but in looking at the parcel, there are wetlands on the back that border the Parkway homes, so I believe those would not be included in the project. You also have to take into account if it's multi-family there will be an office/clubhouse, swimming pool, lots of parking (hopefully) and landscaping. That would dramatically cut down the lot sizes for each condo.

Barb

[supermom]

I think if you had read the website that was referred to in this post you would see that the argument is against the number of units. We are resigned to the fact that the City will change the zoning, our fight is against the density.

As for this area not having any multi-family, we are bordered on both ends by condo's and apartments! Do we need more? That is a valid question that we can debate. But to just label those who are passionate about this issue as snooty is shortsighted unless you know what the debate is about.

BTW: if you reread my post, I didn't say you called me snooty, I asked what was snooty about the ISSUE.

Barb

Yes--I read the web page.

They love to say "oh, we are resigned to the fact that we have to share our little bit of paradise with condo's"

Tuff dooty.

Don't like it--buy the dang land and then refuse to build on it.

Otherwise--you just gotta live with the same maxims as other people --if they can afford to buy it--I guess they will be our neighbors.

I mean heck--it's not like a psychaitric ward of dangerous drug addicts is being built there!!!


oh, and one thing I forgot to say---I don't like anyone building anymore onto our wetlands in this area; mainly because I don't think there is much wetlands left.

So, on that, I'm with you.