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Posted 18 July 2010 - 07:56 AM

Just when you thought Arizona couldn't get any more stupid, we learn more and more about the type of person that lives in that forsaken state, and the ties they keep.

These "minutemen groups," need to be reclassified as enemy combatants.

Source: http://www.huffingto...e_n_650123.html
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PHOENIX — Minutemen groups, a surge in Border Patrol agents, and a tough new immigration law aren't enough for a reputed neo-Nazi who's now leading a militia in the Arizona desert.

Jason "J.T." Ready is taking matters into his own hands, declaring war on "narco-terrorists" and keeping an eye out for illegal immigrants. So far, he says his patrols have only found a few border crossers who were given water and handed over to the Border Patrol. Once, they also found a decaying body in a wash, and alerted authorities.

But local law enforcement are nervous given that Ready's group is heavily armed and identifies with the National Socialist Movement, an organization that believes only non-Jewish, white heterosexuals should be American citizens and that everyone who isn't white should leave the country "peacefully or by force."

"We're not going to sit around and wait for the government anymore," Ready said. "This is what our founding fathers did."

An escalation of civilian border watches have taken root in Arizona in recent years, including the Minutemen movement. Various groups patrol the desert on foot, horseback and in airplanes and report suspicious activity to the Border Patrol, and generally, they have not caused problems for law enforcement.

But Ready, a 37-year-old ex-Marine, is different. He and his friends are outfitted with military fatigues, body armor and gas masks, and carry assault rifles. Ready takes offense at the term "neo-Nazi," but admits he identifies with the National Socialist Movement.

"These are explicit Nazis," said Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project. "These are people who wear swastikas on their sleeves."

Ready is a reflection of the anger over illegal immigration in Arizona. Gov. Jan Brewer signed a controversial new immigration law in April, which requires police, while enforcing other laws, to question a person's immigration status if officers have a reasonable suspicion that the person is in the country illegally.

But Brewer hasn't done enough, Ready said, and he's not satisfied with President Barack Obama's decision to beef up security at the border.
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Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu said there haven't been any incidents with the group as they patrol his jurisdiction, which includes several busy immigrant smuggling corridors. But Babeu is concerned because an untrained group acting without the authority of the law could cause "extreme problems," and put themselves and others in danger.

"I'm not inviting them. And in fact, I'd rather they not come," Babeu said. "Especially those who espouse hatred or bigotry such as his."

Law enforcement officials said patrols like Ready's could undercut the work of the thousands of officers on duty every day across the border, especially if they try to enforce the law themselves in carrying out vigilante justice.

Ready said his group has been patrolling in the desert about 50 miles south of Phoenix, in an area where a Pinal County Sheriff's deputy reported he was shot by drug smugglers in April.

Bureau of Land Management rangers met Ready's group during one patrol, and they weren't violating any laws or looking for a confrontation, said spokesman Dennis Godfrey.

The patrols have been occurring on public land, and militia members have no real restrictions on their weaponry because of Arizona's loose gun laws.

The militia is an outgrowth of border watch groups that have been part of the immigration debate in Arizona. Patrols in the Arizona desert by Minutemen organizations brought national attention to illegal immigration in 2004 and 2005.

Such groups continue to operate in Arizona, and law enforcement officials generally don't take issue with them as long as they don't take matters into their own hands.

Border Patrol spokesman Omar Candelaria said the agency appreciates the extra eyes and ears but they would prefer actual law enforcement be left to professionals.

Former Minutemen leader Al Garza recently created the Patriot's Coalition, which uses scouts and search-and-rescue teams to alert the Border Patrol and provide first aid to illegal immigrants.

Depending on the availability of volunteers and the scouts' evidence of border crossers, patrols can vary from several times a week to once a month, Garza said. The operation is about 500 people, and includes a neighborhood watch program, legislative advisers and a horseback patrol, he said.

Technology, rather than manpower, is the focus of Glenn Spencer's American Border Patrol. The group is based at his ranch near the border. The five-man operation flies three small airplanes to ensure that the Border Patrol is present and visible along the international line.

Spencer also uses Internet-controlled cameras and works with a group called Border Invasion Pics, which posts photos of people they suspect are crossing illegally.

"Sitting out there with a bunch of volunteers looking for people is generally a tremendous waste of people and time," Spencer said. "And it's also dangerous."

Ready said he's planning patrols throughout the summer.

"If they don't want my people out there, then there's an easy way to send us home: Secure the border," he said. "We'll put our guns back on the shelf, and that'll be the end of that."

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 03:33 PM

QUOTE (uberman @ Jul 18 2010, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just when you thought Arizona couldn't get any more stupid, we learn more and more about the type of person that lives in that forsaken state, and the ties they keep.

These "minutemen groups," need to be reclassified as enemy combatants.

Source: http://www.huffingto...e_n_650123.html


Your naivety is pathetic, you'll believe anything that's written by a lib, would you like to buy a bridge in San Francisco?

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 05:12 AM

That story comes from the Associated Press:
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Texas better watch out - - - they might lose their title as the most ( ) state.

Reminds me of the Bill Mahr show, where he has the Stupidest State contest.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 10:32 AM

QUOTE (UncleVinny @ Jul 19 2010, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That story comes from the Associated Press:
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Texas better watch out - - - they might lose their title as the most ( ) state.

Reminds me of the Bill Mahr show, where he has the Stupidest State contest.



Ya know, if you think that protecting our borders is stupid, then you have a problem. Arizona is being overrun and in response is trying to do what the Federal Government is supposed to do. I would like the Feds to do their job so the states would not have to do it.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:21 AM

Come on uberdude... You know how this works. The lefty press always looks for the fringe right wing kook in the mix of all the other normal right wingers and does a full expose on the whack job just like this story....! Just like the anti war stories that you lefties always put on page one in big headlines, you know, the one soldiers family out of a thousand families who blames George Bush for their sons death and is all against the war and their country (think Cindy Sheehan).... These stories are "great" front page news while all of the real news about brave soldiers dieing in combat, saving seven of their comrades, and getting the silver star posthumously are way back on page nine if they print them at all.... And what about this line that I read yesterday in the Bee from this article:

"The patrols have been occurring on public land, and militia members have no real restrictions on their weaponry because of Arizona's loose gun laws."

This offers some insight into the authors leftist mind think if you don't already get it from the article. "Loose" gun laws....? If every state in the union had such "loose" gun laws then we would actually be closer to our Constitution and there would be less crime.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 11:22 AM

QUOTE (uberman @ Jul 18 2010, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just when you thought Arizona couldn't get any more stupid, we learn more and more about the type of person that lives in that forsaken state, and the ties they keep.

These "minutemen groups," need to be reclassified as enemy combatants.


Drug Murders in Northern Mexico

It's attitudes like yours that will turn all of our border cities into Ciudad Juárez.

I just love it when people sit in their air-conditioned homes in a protected area and pass judgment upon those trying to secure their "homes."

Coming soon to a town near you . . .




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Posted 19 July 2010 - 03:32 PM

QUOTE (Cheesesteak @ Jul 19 2010, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Drug Murders in Northern Mexico

It's attitudes like yours that will turn all of our border cities into Ciudad Juárez.

I just love it when people sit in their air-conditioned homes in a protected area and pass judgment upon those trying to secure their "homes."

Coming soon to a town near you . . .





From the article:

"This is a whole new level," said Tony Payan, a political analyst and expert in Mexico's effort to combat drug cartels. "When you compare it to terrorism as it is traditionally understood, there are some similarities. The modus operandi was definitely of a terrorist attack. It was designed to instill fear in the police and the general population."

A graffiti message scrawled on a wall Monday threatened more attacks in the city across the border from El Paso, Texas. The message directed its threat at the FBI and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, demanding an investigation of Mexican law enforcement officials who "support the Sinaloa cartel."


I think this is just the beginning of the drug cartel's terrorist attacks.

And I doubt they will be limited to the country of Mexico.


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Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:02 PM

This is for the naive people who buy into media spin without thinking. It's these party lemmings that are ruining America with their wasted votes following the party line like blind fools.

Watch and learn -

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (folsombound @ Jul 19 2010, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ya know, if you think that protecting our borders is stupid, then you have a problem. Arizona is being overrun and in response is trying to do what the Federal Government is supposed to do. I would like the Feds to do their job so the states would not have to do it.


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Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:31 PM

I don't know how an administration can condone cities who have declared themselves to be "Sanctuary Cities" and break the federal laws, and yet go after a state that is being run over by drug cartels, with kidnappings, murders and crime that is going through the roof!

It's inconceivable and deplorable for a president of America to take this stand, as it shows the level of contempt he has for it's citizens.

Obama claims to be in favor of the illegal aliens being given citizenship, yet he has a total disregard for the lives of those who live in Arizona as well as the lives of their children.

I wonder how much blood this president will have on his hands by the time he leaves office. Because if he does nothing to protect the people of America, from the vicious drug cartels of Mexico, he will have aided and abetted them in their killing sprees. And in my book, he will be just as guilty of murder, as they are.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:42 PM

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I don't know how an administration can condone cities who have declared themselves to be "Sanctuary Cities" and break the federal laws, and yet go after a state that is being run over by drug cartels, with kidnappings, murders and crime that is going through the roof!

It's inconceivable and deplorable for a president of America to take this stand, as it shows the level of contempt he has for it's citizens.

Obama claims to be in favor of the illegal aliens being given citizenship, yet he has a total disregard for the lives of those who live in Arizona as well as the lives of their children.

I wonder how much blood this president will have on his hands by the time he leaves office. Because if he does nothing to protect the people of America, from the vicious drug cartels of Mexico, he will have aided and abetted them in their killing sprees. And in my book, he will be just as guilty of murder, as they are.


I don't know how anyone can see it any other way, he's really screwing us, especially Arizona.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 05:02 PM

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I don't know how anyone can see it any other way, he's really screwing us, especially Arizona.



Not only that...he is literally placing our lives in danger!

And, for him to NOT respond to the cries for help from Arizona, in combating the drug cartels murdering and kidnapping the residents of their state, yet condemn them for doing what they have to do to protect their residents...(notice I didn't say citizens, because most killing/kidnapping is of the illegal aliens there) is so contemptable to me, I can hardly contain my rage!

These are human beings! They have a right to be protected from these terrorist drug cartels and they thought they could get that in this country. But they didn't count on our president betraying us.

I hope and pray that Obama will be made accountable for his reckless disregard for the safety of the residents in our border states.

I never thought I'd see the day when an American president would have so little concern for the residents of this country. It just boggles my mind!



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Posted 22 July 2010 - 01:30 PM

Another Arizona speciality

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 02:54 PM

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Another Arizona speciality

http://www.thedailys...a-s-photo-radar



This tape and this show is BULL!

I guess you think cameras that track speeders is a horrible, scary thing...but we have them right here in California and they DO RECORD SPEEDERS!!!!!

Of course this just makes TOO MUCH sense to a person who wants to catch and ticket those who want to speed down the highway and roads, endangering the lives of fellow drivers. And, it makes no sense at all to those who want to do the speeding and law breaking.
That shows the mentality of those drivers.

The interviewer is an idiot, trying to make the person interviewed sound like a racist, but fails miserably to do so. And her attempt to be cute is so lame, as she misses the mark completely.

I won't look at another one of these stupid and poorly produced videos from the Daily Show. It's a waste of my time to watch this comedy show.

Is this the best you can find to support your weak arguments against the Arizona Immigration Law???? Do you really think this is a news article? That's just sad.



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Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:15 PM

Love the daily show...but it certainly not a "news" show. It is a biting satiric look at the news. Although Stewart does have a liberal bend, he is quick to rail at ALL governmental stupidity.
A great ENTERTAINMENT show.

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