21 replies to this topic

[Chad Vander Veen]

Does everyone here realize there's a turn lane for turning right at the light? Most times drivers seem to refuse to turn right on red even though there's a clearly marked turn lane for them to use.

[Dave Burrell]

Yep, dunno how anyone could miss that.

[eVader]

And I believe the traffic light also has a very prominent green right turn light. Glad they added the lane all the way around the corner.

[Terry]

A driver still has to stop at the red light, but you're right, there's a separate acceleration lane once you turn right.

[Chad Vander Veen]

A driver still has to stop at the red light, but you're right, there's a separate acceleration lane once you turn right.

Yeah - I drive that route a lot and most of the time, if I'm behind someone, they won't turn right until the light goes green, even though the turn lane is there for them to safely do a right on red. Blowing the horn is of no use since the driver obviously wouldn't understand why I did so.

[MrsTuffPaws]

Yeah - I drive that route a lot and most of the time, if I'm behind someone, they won't turn right until the light goes green, even though the turn lane is there for them to safely do a right on red. Blowing the horn is of no use since the driver obviously wouldn't understand why I did so.

I don't frequent that intersection, and I'm not really seeing what the problem is.

Are you expecting a car to turn right on red, with traffic coming, so they can stop and wait in that little merging lane 15 feet down the road? I understand that's the right thing to do, but I wouldn't get in a huff over waiting 1 or 2 car lengths further back than I ought to.

[Darth Lefty]

I really enjoy the right-turn scoops in southern Folsom, why not do that here I wonder?

[zach5]

I am just going to argue that even if there is a good turn lane and scoop, that a driver doesn't have to make a right turn on a red light unless they want to.

[Bill Z]

I am just going to argue that even if there is a good turn lane and scoop, that a driver doesn't have to make a right turn on a red light unless they want to.

You are right, they legally have the right to be discourteous to the drivers behind them and unnecessarily hold up traffic if they want to.

[Bill Z]

I don't frequent that intersection, and I'm not really seeing what the problem is.

Are you expecting a car to turn right on red, with traffic coming, so they can stop and wait in that little merging lane 15 feet down the road? I understand that's the right thing to do, but I wouldn't get in a huff over waiting 1 or 2 car lengths further back than I ought to.

No, I expect them to merge 20 or 30 feet or more down the road as soon as it is safe to do so, instead of waiting for a written invitation to go.

[4thgenFolsomite]

No, I expect them to merge 20 or 30 feet or more down the road as soon as it is safe to do so, instead of waiting for a written invitation to go.

I don't frequent that intersection often, maybe twice a month. I went the other day. There a red light and a green arrow light pointing right. when then green arrow turned off, I figured that meant, "don't turn right now." so I sat at the red light watching for traffic coming from the left (off the bridge). are you saying you would honk at me for not turning right? I wonder if I would be ticketed if there were a police car watching. Irish? Are you there? I'm not willing to risk a ticket to save someone 15 seconds of waiting time.

[Bill Z]

I don't frequent that intersection often, maybe twice a month. I went the other day. There a red light and a green arrow light pointing right. when then green arrow turned off, I figured that meant, "don't turn right now." so I sat at the red light watching for traffic coming from the left (off the bridge). are you saying you would honk at me for not turning right? I wonder if I would be ticketed if there were a police car watching. Irish? Are you there? I'm not willing to risk a ticket to save someone 15 seconds of waiting time.

Unless there is a sign saying "No Right on Red", CA law would be "green arrow" means you have the right of way to go, and red light means stop, then proceed when it is safe to do so. In this instance where there is a merge lane, one should pull forward where they can have a good view and go when the opportunity to merge presents itself instead of camping out waiting for a green light/written invitation. I've never seen someone get a ticket for being overly cautious at an intersection, so I doubt you will get a ticket for not going, but you will raise the ire of those behind you if they see that you have had ample opportunity to proceed and you haven't.

[4thgenFolsomite]

Unless there is a sign saying "No Right on Red", CA law would be "green arrow" means you have the right of way to go, and red light means stop, then proceed when it is safe to do so. In this instance where there is a merge lane, one should pull forward where they can have a good view and go when the opportunity to merge presents itself instead of camping out waiting for a green light/written invitation. I've never seen someone get a ticket for being overly cautious at an intersection, so I doubt you will get a ticket for not going, but you will raise the ire of those behind you if they see that you have had ample opportunity to proceed and you haven't.

perhaps. but if someone is new to town, a new driver, an older driver, then I think we all need to chill out a little, relax and wait the 15 seconds it takes for the light to turn. its not a race, after all.

[Bill Z]

perhaps. but if someone is new to town, a new driver, an older driver, then I think we all need to chill out a little, relax and wait the 15 seconds it takes for the light to turn. its not a race, after all.

And yet, I could have sworn it's been called the "Rat Race" for decades.

I understand your point, but it also irks me when drivers ignore the fact that there are other drivers on the road and they should drive in a manner showing courtesy and helping the overall flow of traffic instead of gabbing on the phone, and being a bottleneck wherever they go.

[ducky]

I understand there's room to pull in that lane on a red, but what's the point if you see there's a steady stream of cars coming and there won't be an opportunity to merge once you get to the end? I think it's safer to stay stopped at the red until you see an opportunity or opening. That way, you have a better view of what's coming, who may be changing lanes from the No. 1 lane to the No. 2 (if they don't think turn signals are optional), and you don't have that impatient driver riding your bumper rear-end you when you get to the end of the merge lane and can't merge.

[Irish1, I always forget the lane numbering. Is No. 1 the slow lane or the fast lane?]