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#1 tallady

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 07:50 AM

Has anyone noticed the bright pink/purple home off of Oak Avenue Parkway on the left hand side if you are coming from East Bidwell? Aren't there CC&R's that control what colors home owners can paint their homes? This home is an eyesore!

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 08:11 AM

QUOTE(tallady @ Sep 14 2005, 08:50 AM)
Has anyone noticed the bright pink/purple home off of Oak Avenue Parkway on the left hand side if you are coming from East Bidwell?  Aren't there CC&R's that control what colors home owners can paint their homes?  This home is an eyesore!

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If there is not a Management company being paid for by Homeowner's dues to enforce the CC&Rs, then the CC&Rs are mostly unenforceable.

In a Cresleigh neigborhood there is a bright yellow house. It definitely stands out, but I actually like it. I find most areas totally boring in the pale beiges, grays, and similar hues that one can hardly distinguish any differences at all.

We have CC&Rs in Natoma Station, but no one can tell us what color we can or cannot paint. They are not enforced.

An eyesore to some is in the eye of the beholder. Pink and purple are not favorite colors of mine, so I would never use them on an exterior or interior of a house. But if it is private property and the homeowner likes it, it should not be anyone else's business, unless there are enforceable rules to limit the colors used.

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 09:11 AM

QUOTE(tallady @ Sep 14 2005, 07:50 AM)
Has anyone noticed the bright pink/purple home off of Oak Avenue Parkway on the left hand side if you are coming from East Bidwell?  Aren't there CC&R's that control what colors home owners can paint their homes?  This home is an eyesore!

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I thought Broadstone had a strong HOA with CC&Rs that covered house paint choices. May be that someone has a beef with the HOA and is doing a 'neener neener' to it, or maybe a neighbor.

Too bad that some people can't be neighborly. I'm actually surprised that a professional painting company would have agreed to do this job. I know several painters in the area, and they are really diligent about making sure the colors chosen are within the CC&Rs because it would be bad business practice for them to get into a beef with HOA or neighbors and ruin their professional reputation. Course, this may have been a homeowner paint job.


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Posted 14 September 2005 - 09:36 AM

QUOTE(Terry @ Sep 14 2005, 10:11 AM)
I thought Broadstone had a strong HOA with CC&Rs that covered house paint choices.  May be that someone has a beef with the HOA and is doing a 'neener neener' to it, or maybe a neighbor.

Too bad that some people can't be neighborly.  I'm actually surprised that a professional painting company would have agreed to do this job.  I know several painters in the area, and they are really diligent about making sure the colors chosen are within the CC&Rs because it would be bad business practice for them to get into a beef with HOA or neighbors and ruin their professional reputation.  Course, this may have been a homeowner paint job.

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If the paint choice is in an enforcable CC&R, the homeowner is asking for grief as the HOA can force the house to be repainted or repaint it themselves and charge the homeowner.

In the last HOA I lived in one house that was a tad off shade had to be repainted. However the painting was in progress when it was stopped. Another homeowner got permission from the HOA for the color he chose. After the house was painted, the HOA then objected to the color. Since he had the approval of his color in writing, after going to court, the HOA got to repaint his house but the HOA paid for it, not the homeowner.

One of the many reasons I am no longer living in a HOA. Natoma Station has CC&Rs, but like many are not enforceable.

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 09:56 AM

I live in Broadstone (Brentwood) and we don't have an HOA. Several homes in our area have been repainted colors other than the original beige, brown, etc. But, nothing as 'eye catching' as purple/pink.

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Posted 14 September 2005 - 01:38 PM

Even without an active HOA, CC&Rs are still a binding legal document and are very much enforceable. It just requires someone in the neighborhood to file the complaint rather than the HOA "discovering" the problem and attacking without a specific complaint.

I'm not sure of the process, but it was used a couple years ago in one of the Folsom communities without an active HOA (Briggs Ranch, I think). A truck driver was parking his rig in front of his house. Besides the obvious eyesore, he started it every morning at 5:30 and let it warm-up for 30-minutes. Neighbors filed a complaint, citing the CC&Rs. The guy received a warning letter and the rig vanished from the neighborhood.
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Posted 14 September 2005 - 02:09 PM

QUOTE(SacKen @ Sep 14 2005, 02:38 PM)
Even without an active HOA, CC&Rs are still a binding legal document and are very much enforceable.  It just requires someone in the neighborhood to file the complaint rather than the HOA "discovering" the problem and attacking without a specific complaint.

I'm not sure of the process, but it was used a couple years ago in one of the Folsom communities without an active HOA (Briggs Ranch, I think).  A truck driver was parking his rig in front of his house.  Besides the obvious eyesore, he started it every morning at 5:30 and let it warm-up for 30-minutes.  Neighbors filed a complaint, citing the CC&Rs.  The guy received a warning letter and the rig vanished from the neighborhood.

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That worked out well for the neighborhood. And he was a good neighbor to respond to a warning letter. He could have just trashed it. He could also have left his truck there. If there is no one to enforce the warning letter, it could have been left up to a few homeowners to hire a lawyer. When that happens not many want to spend their own money to correct the problem.

This is exactly what I was told when someone put a TV antenna on his roof in spite of the fact that the CC&R's forbid TV antennas outside...(ours is in our attic and works great.)

Another problem was a boat and trailer parked out at the curb. Myself and some other neighbors called the Folsom Police Dept. every third day. They came out once and ticketed the boat and trailer, but all the owner had to do was move it every 72 hours and he was in compliance. Forunately after neighborly pressure the boat and trailer went into the garage. But there was no way the CC&Rs could have done it. I had even copied the page and section about boats left out and handed it to the boat owners.

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Posted 15 September 2005 - 07:40 PM

Remember the "Yellow House" in EDH.

The house was repainted a diferent shade of yellow from what CC&R's allowed.

This story was in the national news and ended up in court...Guess what..it's still the same color. The homeowners prevailed regarding the color!

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Posted 15 September 2005 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Sep 15 2005, 08:40 PM)
Remember the "Yellow House" in EDH.

The house was repainted a diferent shade of yellow from what CC&R's allowed. 

This story was in the national news and ended up in court...Guess what..it's still the same color. The homeowners prevailed regarding the color!

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A different shade of yellow is much different then bright purple/pink. I remember the house in EDH and it wasn't so BRIGHT it made you want to puke.

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Posted 15 September 2005 - 09:38 PM

Many years ago we wanted to move to a particular neighborhood. There were only two houses for sale in that area - the more expensive one was the smaller of the two but was fairly attractive from the outside. Exactly opposite that house was the other property for sale. It was much larger but ugly would be an understatement! We toured both houses and chose the ugly one - all the time we were inside it we couldn't see how ugly it was - the people who lived on the other side of the street had to look at our house all day! Doesn't answer why people choose to paint their house pink and purple (guess they are color blind) but it does make you feel even more awful for the poor neighbors.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 07:50 AM

We didn't paint our house but its known as the highlighter house! tongue.gif

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 09:07 AM

QUOTE(Gaelic925 @ Sep 16 2005, 08:50 AM)
We didn't paint our house but its known as the highlighter house!  tongue.gif

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Is the pink/purple home yours in Broadstone? If so, how do your neighbors feel about the color? Just curious....

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:29 AM

QUOTE(tallady @ Sep 14 2005, 08:50 AM)
Has anyone noticed the bright pink/purple home off of Oak Avenue Parkway on the left hand side if you are coming from East Bidwell?  Aren't there CC&R's that control what colors home owners can paint their homes?  This home is an eyesore!

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OMG, yes I have seen that house. It is the most inconsiderate thing I've ever seen to make your neighbors put up with that nonsense. And good luck trying to sell your house if you live near to, or next door to, those people. There really ought to be public decency laws for color-blind clowns like that... thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:41 AM

QUOTE(tallady @ Sep 16 2005, 10:07 AM)
Is the pink/purple home yours in Broadstone?  If so, how do your neighbors feel about the color?  Just curious....

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Oh no ours is in a different neighborhood but its bright yellow. We bought it that way and don't know if we want to change it now because its now the landmark for the neighborhood.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 12:12 PM

On the other hand, they painted their house. I really hate to see houses that are really in need of a new coat of paint. There are usually some that NEED painting in most neighborhoods.




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