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#136 zach5

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 01:12 PM

I find it kindof interesting, of the two profiles I was able to open, they both attended folsom lake.
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Posted 28 July 2006 - 01:26 PM

QUOTE(zach5 @ Jul 28 2006, 02:12 PM) View Post

I find it kindof interesting, of the two profiles I was able to open, they both attended folsom lake.


Not to say that all that attend folsom lake are like this- but the two certainly would not seem to have been at the top of their class at FHS...

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 02:31 PM

I'm not quite up on Folsom school politics, but my search didn't exclude FHS:

http://profile.myspa...iendid=40667287

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 07:29 PM

Well, what I was getting at, like this newest one you posted, many of the students went to continutation, either by choice, or they did something bad to be removed from FHS
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Posted 29 July 2006 - 05:20 AM

The challenge is how do we as parents have the best shot at raising children who can say no to the vast negative influences that are around them? This is everywhere not just Folsom, CA.

My teenage son is the one who is now able to tell me what we might have done differently to keep him on the straight and narrow.

About sex....he said kids need to be taught from an early age that talking about "boyfriend/girlfriend" is inappropriate and not OK, inappropriate dressing and body language is a no no and instill in them EARLY the values you want for them later....he feels that waiting until 12 or 13 to discuss your values about sexuality and sexual behavior and what your expectations are will fail...kids need boundaries much earlier.

About drugs and alcohol.....another value that will force parents to look at what their values are and see if they will negatively affect their children. If you don't want your teens to drink you might need to look at how much alcohol is a part of your own life....he says parents are too lenient and apt to say kids are just experimenting...if you don't want kids to drink than define the rules and if they are violated slam them with tough consequences immediately

About bad behavior....he says kids need parents first, one's they can respect, not ones that are their buddies worrying about their "happiness".

His overridding theme is that parents are far to wimpy today and need to be tough as well as loving.

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 08:28 AM

Wow, your son has high standards for parents as well as kids! It's impressive that he can take such a balanced and comprehensive view at such a young age.

I found your comments about sex interesting. One thing I have noticed is that our culture really glorifies the "boyfriend/girlfriend relationship." Grandparents will tease even preschoolers in a manner such as "Oooh, Katie, is Kevin your little boyfriend??" A lot of the tweener t.v. shows (not to mention music) seem to focus on budding boy-girl relationships. Many parents seem to get a vicarious charge out of their tweens' first crushes-- they delight in the TPing and other flirty stuff as much as the tweens do! --Is this the kind of thing you are talking about?

With so much cultural focus on boy-girl stuff, I'm not sure how to give my little girls the message that romance is for later (MUCH later!), and that throughout their elementary and tween years they should be focusing on school and activities-- NOT on boys.

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 09:22 AM

QUOTE(bordercolliefan @ Jul 29 2006, 09:28 AM) View Post

Wow, your son has high standards for parents as well as kids! It's impressive that he can take such a balanced and comprehensive view at such a young age.

I found your comments about sex interesting. One thing I have noticed is that our culture really glorifies the "boyfriend/girlfriend relationship." Grandparents will tease even preschoolers in a manner such as "Oooh, Katie, is Kevin your little boyfriend??" A lot of the tweener t.v. shows (not to mention music) seem to focus on budding boy-girl relationships. Many parents seem to get a vicarious charge out of their tweens' first crushes-- they delight in the TPing and other flirty stuff as much as the tweens do! --Is this the kind of thing you are talking about?

With so much cultural focus on boy-girl stuff, I'm not sure how to give my little girls the message that romance is for later (MUCH later!), and that throughout their elementary and tween years they should be focusing on school and activities-- NOT on boys.


He DOES have high standards for us and I definitely not only stress over how to meet his expectations but, because of all his insight, value so much of what he says. He sees things more clearly than I do sometimes and I do value much of what he has to say.

You hit the nail on the head - that is EXACTLY what he is referring to about our culture's focus on the boy/girl relationships. There is no way kids can reserve that for LATER if it becomes a topic beginning in kindergarten. He tells us that behavior should be redirected at an early age the minute it comes up. Otherwise it is too confusing for young kids.

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Posted 27 August 2006 - 10:55 AM

ok so you are right, im a freshmen and it took 2 weeks for my friend to be a pot head, im not doing this stuff becuase my parents are buying me a car, but if they didnt do that, i think i still wouldnt do it becuase i know how messed up you can get from drugs.

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Posted 20 September 2006 - 05:50 PM

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 02:18 PM

wow thanks for the info, I mean I am sure no one here did any of those things when they were that age. Yeah I know it sucks because we view kids as if they have no idea what they are doing to themselves, where as we did (LOL) but we are living in an overindulgent society that will only damage itself progressively.

I cant blame the kids, only the parents.

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BTW, if your child is using Ecstasy - there are no dilated pupils or bloodshot eyes to look for, and the pills are the size of a pencil eraser. And if they're using meth, it comes in what looks like a foil gum wrapper. Look around and see what's in your house or what kind of garbage is thrown under the bed.

Here's a couple links to check out: http://www.theantidrug.com/
http://www.narconon...._addiction.html



actually GIGANTIC pupils are the first give away of ecstacy use...
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Posted 08 October 2006 - 03:11 PM

A 13 year old girl at FHS was found with meth this week...

I know from a very reliable "inside source"

Some Folsom parents are in total denial about the things their kids are doing...

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 10:03 PM

The Vice Principle and the Resource Officers at Folsom High School are wonderful and caring people. If you want to know what is going on with the kids at FHS, talk to them. They are an enormous resource of information.

This year has been a traumatic year for some of the students at FHS. Kids have been involved in assaults, gang beatings at parks, stabbings, vandalism, DUI arrests, accidents (due to DUI), thefts, etc.... the teens are getting out of hand and the parents are enabling them. Teenagers are making fools of us as parents. We are not here to be their friends. We are here to teach them right from wrong. Who cares if they don't like us now - they will later as adults.

If you don't check up on your kids, then you are living blind. Check their myspace. Get involved in their lives. Know who they are with and what they are doing. Know their friends very very well because if they are doing anything bad, then your kid is probably doing it with them.

Drugs are rampant with the teenagers here in Folsom from Ecstasy, cocaine, marijuana, prescription drugs, alcohol, etc.

Parents need to stop enabling their kids. Stop leaving your teenage kids unsupervised for the weekend or the week. Stop giving them money and let them earn their money. Make your kids work and keep them preoccupied with extra curricular activities because boredom is the source of all ills with teens today. Stop thinking that it won't happen to your kid because it can...

I'm glad my kids have graduated and are no longer going to FHS.... the last two years of their time there was an enormous test of our love for our kids. It was a living hell for us as parents and other parents that I have met.

Trust your kids as far as you can throw them. Even the good kids can be influenced by peer pressure. No child is safe and it is up to you to enforce the law because if you don't, then the justice system will.
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 12:10 AM

thanks for sharing r&rbyrne.



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Posted 09 October 2006 - 09:35 AM

This information scares me so much! I don't understand how Folsom High can rate so highly (one of the best high schools in the state)-- yet based on the posts here, half the kids are spaced out on drugs.



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Posted 09 October 2006 - 09:36 AM

QUOTE(bordercolliefan @ Oct 9 2006, 10:35 AM) View Post

This information scares me so much! I don't understand how Folsom High can rate so highly (one of the best high schools in the state)-- yet based on the posts here, half the kids are spaced out on drugs.

maybe they tweak out and stay up all night studying?
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