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[Dave Burrell]

Dave, have you had the port at Terra D'oro (formerly MonteVina)? I love that.

I have had that one, it was good but my real preference is a tawny port, I don't really like the ruby or zinfindel ones as much as I enjoy the smooth sweet taste of a good tawny

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

I have had that one, it was good but my real preference is a tawny port, I don't really like the ruby or zinfindel ones as much as I enjoy the smooth sweet taste of a good tawny

That rings a bell. I think we've had this exact conversation before!

[Dave Burrell]

I was told by a very credible source that Deavers Ports are made by another winery.

Todays trivia question is what winery makes them?

IMO. they made the best port a few years ago and their Port today is rather good too!

I think their Syrah port is made from grapes from another winery (not sure which one), but their other ports are made with their own grapes

[Meyer Lemon]

Popular, highly-rated wines of today (California-style) to me are just full of nose and alcohol and ICK.

Hidden in your most awkward wording is a truism. But getting past that awkwardness, as much as it reveals about both your inexperience discussing and presumably tasting wine, makes taking you seriously quite difficult.

The “nose” of a wine is a combination of two components: the aroma, or the smell of the grapes, and the bouquet, the smell of the finished wine. A wine is not full of “nose.” To say that as authoritatively as you did, in a public forum, exposes you as a rube.

Perhaps what you meant to say is that the wines of Napa are overripe and therefore too alcoholic, structured with the fruit too far forward and without sufficient acidity to allow them to compliment too many foods. But I sense a point so expressed to be beyond your experience and understanding.

Even if you could understand it, it seems you could not express it.

I guess neither of us will ever know what you meant by “ICK.” Just as well.

[Robert Giacometti]

I think their Syrah port is made from grapes from another winery (not sure which one), but their other ports are made with their own grapes

Maybe we should form a committee to do some field research on the Best Port in Amador County?

Anybody want to volunteer to taste about 6 or 7 Ports some afternoon?

[Dave Burrell]

Maybe we should form a committee to do some field research on the Best Port in Amador County?

Anybody want to volunteer to taste about 6 or 7 Ports some afternoon?

sign me up!

[Robert Giacometti]

sign me up!

I can drive and probably fit 5 people total in my truck. If we go on a Friday afternoon we can stop by the Villa Toscano and have their complimentary pasta buffet.

Any others want to do some field research and actually settle a debate for once on this forum! ( of course we may get 5 different opinions)

[cw68]

Hidden in your most awkward wording is a truism. But getting past that awkwardness, as much as it reveals about both your inexperience discussing and presumably tasting wine, makes taking you seriously quite difficult.

The “nose” of a wine is a combination of two components: the aroma, or the smell of the grapes, and the bouquet, the smell of the finished wine. A wine is not full of “nose.” To say that as authoritatively as you did, in a public forum, exposes you as a rube.

Perhaps what you meant to say is that the wines of Napa are overripe and therefore too alcoholic, structured with the fruit too far forward and without sufficient acidity to allow them to compliment too many foods. But I sense a point so expressed to be beyond your experience and understanding.

Even if you could understand it, it seems you could not express it.

I guess neither of us will ever know what you meant by “ICK.” Just as well.

Are you for real? First off, I'm not a rube by any definition.

Secondly, I have plenty of experience discussing and tasting wine. Not just in my kitchen or in the backyard (the best places), but also with sommeliers of various levels on their turf, my turf, at wineries with the people who craft the wines and with the farmers who grow the grapes. Not a single one of these people require nor even encourage the snobbery you apparently expect to accompany a love of wine. Perhaps what you meant to say is that I'm not full enough of myself to hang with y'all, which is perfectly fine with me. I prefer to taste and talk wine with people who care more about the liquid than the vernacular used to describe it.

ps - "Ick" isn't a very difficult concept to grasp, but if you're having a hard time understanding my simple statement, my feelings on the current hot-sellers is much like your post above. Wines high in alcohol are overpowering, even a relatively small amount can easily leave one nauseous and it's flashy initial taste just masquerades as greatness that is not there. Big flavors (or haughty words) doesn't equal character, it just means that the flash in the pan covers up the lack of the grape's true flavor.

[s0479]

I have had that one, it was good but my real preference is a tawny port, I don't really like the ruby or zinfindel ones as much as I enjoy the smooth sweet taste of a good tawny

C G Diarie has a great tawny port!

[Dave Burrell]

I can drive and probably fit 5 people total in my truck. If we go on a Friday afternoon we can stop by the Villa Toscano and have their complimentary pasta buffet.

Any others want to do some field research and actually settle a debate for once on this forum! ( of course we may get 5 different opinions)

that'd be great and doing it on a Friday is ideal

C G Diarie has a great tawny port!

hey there's one I have not tried - I'll need to find that one, thanks for the suggestion

[Robert Giacometti]

C G Diarie has a great tawny port!

I've never been there as well. Is this winery on the road that Bella Pizza is on?

Dave lets put that one on our list, along with Deaver. ( I want to confirm what I was told about who makes their port)

Anybody else want to join is for a Friday afternoon field research looking for the best Port?

[Dave Burrell]

I've never been there as well. Is this winery on the road that Bella Pizza is on?

Dave lets put that one on our list, along with Deaver. ( I want to confirm what I was told about who makes their port)

Anybody else want to join is for a Friday afternoon field research looking for the best Port?

That sounds good to me! Lets set a day

(maybe we should split this part of the discussion off into a new thread )