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[bordercolliefan]

Again, you seem to be stuck on the negativity of one man and his issue. He is dead and they are grieving. 
How about focusing on the bigger picture?

Well, I think most of us are capable of holding two thoughts in our heads at once: (1) We are concerned about Ebola. (2) We don't approve of this man and/or his family's conduct.

I don't think the evidence regarding whether Duncan came here knowing he was probably going to get Ebola, and wanting to be in the U.S. for medical treatment, is well-established. The evidence seems mixed, and I've read varying explanations of why he came here at this time.

[4thgenFolsomite]

A wise man once said, judge not.

[bordercolliefan]

A wise man once said, judge not.

So much for the jury system...

[4thgenFolsomite]

yes, the court of public opinion is harsh! 

[bordercolliefan]

yes, the court of public opinion is harsh! 

Yes, you are right.

I think I was judgmental because I didn't like the knee-jerk charge of racism. Of course, I would never wish this horrible disease on anyone...

[supermom]

Is it any worse when we knee jerk to those claims?

 

I think there is a direct causal of suspicion of hooded brotherhood and the way some auto reply angrily to accusations. 

 

Neither are necessarily true and prolly reactions stemming from many things, And very much not helping.

[4thgenFolsomite]

And I am sure everyone has heard by now that a health worker at the Texas hospital has. NOw tested positive for Ebola. That's not good.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

And I am sure everyone has heard by now that a health worker at the Texas hospital has. NOw tested positive for Ebola. That's not good.

 

I hope they can get to the bottom of whether or not she strictly adhered to safety protocol; I'm guessing not. This has been my fear; we're counting on human beings who are fallible.

[cw68]

Fox News is reporting that a "breach of protocol" is in play in the nurse's contraction. http://www.foxnews.c...tive-for-ebola/

[bordercolliefan]

I hope they can get to the bottom of whether or not she strictly adhered to safety protocol; I'm guessing not. This has been my fear; we're counting on human beings who are fallible.

I think this is the biggest challenge. It is unrealistic to expect 100% adherence to protocol. Sure, it's easy to insist that everyone wear a hazmat suit when they enter the room. The pitfalls come with how to disrobe from a contaminated suit, what to do with the contaminated suit, how to dispose of contaminated bodily fluids and medical equipment, etc. At every step, there is potential for a moment's inattention or even equipment failure (like a ripped glove or plastic bag).

Another big problem is when the patient first presents to the hospital. The ER receptionists and triage nurses are not gowned and masked at all times, so they (not to mention the other patients in the ER) are potentially vulnerable.

I am so, so sorry for this nurse. Despite the Duncan family's lack of gratitude, an outside expert has stated Duncan's care when he was admitted to the hospital was "impeccable," and this nurse may pay the ultimate price for it.

[bordercolliefan]

Now there is another potential patient at the U-Kansas Hospital, and the CDC chief has stated that other Dallas hospital workers may potentially become infected, too.

It seems like the CDC was a little too sanguine in saying that "any hospital can handle this" and "it could never spread in the U.S." Really?!


http://www.foxnews.c...on-on-protocol/

[supermom]

hmmmm- they cant figure out how to protect the workers they should only be using level 5 containment --- I would think. 

[nomad]

Now there is another potential patient at the U-Kansas Hospital, and the CDC chief has stated that other Dallas hospital workers may potentially become infected, too.

It seems like the CDC was a little too sanguine in saying that "any hospital can handle this" and "it could never spread in the U.S." Really?!


http://www.foxnews.c...on-on-protocol/

 

If anyone believes anything the govt or CDC says they are fooling themselves. Kinda like the flu shot scam they pull every year. Sure, go to CVS and get a shot that will "help" you. Total BS.

[bordercolliefan]

If anyone believes anything the govt or CDC says they are fooling themselves. Kinda like the flu shot scam they pull every year. Sure, go to CVS and get a shot that will "help" you. Total BS.

Well, I don't think it's some kind of conspiracy where the CDC wants us all to die of Ebola.

But it does seem the CDC underestimated the difficulties of dealing with this deadly virus. It didn't spread in Africa only because Africa is poor, lacks infrastructure, has intimate funeral practices that bring mourners into contact with the dead body, etc. etc. -- all the reasons you hear why it "could never spread" in the U.S. It spread in Africa because it is a contagious deadly bug that by its nature, has evolved to cause the victim to expel and spread the virus all around through sweat, vomit, blood, feces... And now it looks like it may spread here for the same reasons.

[4thgenFolsomite]

that damn Nancy Snyderman!