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[Buford T Justice]

This information scares me so much! I don't understand how Folsom High can rate so highly (one of the best high schools in the state)-- yet based on the posts here, half the kids are spaced out on drugs.

Not all kids at FHS are wacked out on drugs, in fact its a smaller percentage then is being reported here, but the mob loves hearing this stuff and it help feeds the hunger to be angry.

Believe it or not there are more good kids there who have a brain and don't follow the losers then you're being told. Perhaps the real problem these kids (who are posting here) are noting is it's the people they hang out with. People can make choices you know, friends are chosen, not assigned. Its too bad some parents haven't taught their kids to make the right choices, but then again when you have spoiled kids, who's parents have tons of money and can't be bothered with raising their kids, its up to society and the friends they choose to hang out with to do it for them - and this is what you get sometimes. Fortunately not all parents are stupid, arrogant and ignorant.

[bishmasterb]

This information scares me so much! I don't understand how Folsom High can rate so highly (one of the best high schools in the state)-- yet based on the posts here, half the kids are spaced out on drugs.

I think it's more a representation of the type of people who spend time on online forums...

Also, of course, it seems that people are more likely to be obnoxious online than they are in person. Take me for instance, I act like an idiot online but in person I'm...well...an idiot...okay, bad example.

[r&rbyrne]

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[UnionBlondie16]

Drugs at Folsom are NOT as bad as people are making them out to be. And it's definantly not half the school. I'm a student there & I can tell you first hand. Yes, it's a problem, but you may want to be more concerned about your kids and alcohol. Which is a problem.

If you compare Folsom to Woodcreek ((AKA E-Creek)) or Oakmont ((AKA Coke-mont)) there is almost no problem with it. There are a few groups who are what you all are calling "losers" who use a lot. But, most kids are realizing what a problem drugs are and what they can do to your life.

I understand that your daughter was using. Well, all you can do is teach your kids what's right and wrong, know your kid's friends and know where your kids are at all times. My dad makes me call his when I get somewhere, leave that place, and arrive somewhere else. He wants to know my exact agenda. It's kept me out of trouble, for the most part.

Everyone's going to have their slip ups. But I can honestly tell you that I've had plenty of chances to do drugs at plenty of parties but I have never touched one. Ever. Just because my parents have openly talked about it. It's not a good idea to start and I know that because I know the effects. Educate your kids.

Just pay attention to your child's life. Don't get so wrapped up in yours and don't worry about making them mad at you. They'll get over it. Promise. =)

[Solartide]

Exactly! this thread is full of liez! Ok, some of it is true, but it is not as bad as it seems!

[OctoberLily]

Drugs at Folsom are NOT as bad as people are making them out to be. And it's definantly not half the school. I'm a student there & I can tell you first hand. Yes, it's a problem, but you may want to be more concerned about your kids and alcohol. Which is a problem.

If you compare Folsom to Woodcreek ((AKA E-Creek)) or Oakmont ((AKA Coke-mont)) there is almost no problem with it. There are a few groups who are what you all are calling "losers" who use a lot. But, most kids are realizing what a problem drugs are and what they can do to your life.

It's good to hear that there are some students at FHS who are enlightened and know better than to go along with peer pressure. Unfortunately, there are A LOT of kids who go along with it and think it's ok. To deny the truth is to live blind. Parents need to wake up. I used to be one of those parents who didn't believe these seemingly "good kids" would do anything bad. That all changed when I saw for myself what these "good, popular, smart, kids" were getting into. You see it plastered all over myspace pages. It's a big problem at FHS and the problem will continue if we, as parents, do not wake up and step up to our responsibilities. We need to do what we can to protect our kids. I call these kids "our" kids because if your kid is with another kid - those kids have an effect on your kid - better to help all of them to help your own.

I agree with RBryne when it comes to labeling those kids as "losers" - those so called "losers" are the popular kids at the school - they are on the football team, the track team, the cheerleading team, they are the smart AP students, etc. These so called "losers" represent a percentage of each demographic at the high school that are applauded each week for their athletic and academic performance at the school. You will be very surprised to know who is involved in the wrong things. They are just making the wrong decisions and we, as parents, need to show them what happens when you make the wrong decisions.

"Drugs at Folsom are NOT as bad as people are making them out to be." - That depends on how you define "bad". Sure, our dirty secrets are not making the news such as Woodcreek or Oakmont, but our kids are into the same thing. We just don't "air" our dirty little secrets for all to see. It is just as bad as Woodcreek and Oakmont. One way to open your eyes is to read the police log for Folsom in the Sacramento Bee. You will see that Folsom PD is cracking down on DUI and they are arresting people - some of those people they are arresting are teenagers. One teen smashed into two cars a few weeks ago because he was drunk.

In the past five (5) years, I have seen a lot of these kids grow up and I'm saddened by the choices they have made. A lot of kids are dropping out of their first year of college because of drugs or alcohol. Some kids are having physical ailments due to too much drinking (i.e., liver problems). I'm saddened because I've seen these kids go from middle school to college and I had hopes they would grow up and have wonderful successful happy lives. The same hopes I have for my own kids. Instead, I'm hearing about all their troubles and I'm saddened. These kids have so much potential, they have so many opportunities available to them.

If we as parents don't wake up and see that when you give too much to your kids, they have no where to go from there - they have no reason to work hard for what they want. When you spend more time nurturing your social life instead of watching your teenager's social life, you are headed for trouble.

It takes A LOT of energy to keep track of your kids and know the who, what and where of our teenager's lives, but it is energy well spent.

[UnionBlondie16]

I did say that alcohol is a problem. That's a fact. But there's not a school in this country that doesn't have that problem. Well, public school anyway.

As far as peer pressure. I've had this discussion and debate with people in classes or in just social environments. With people who do drugs, have done drugs and also who have never done drugs in their life. The result of the conversations are the same about 90% of the time. Peer pressure is not the main problem. Sure, kids will offer it, but if you say no, they don't critisize you or make fun of you or tell everyone about it. They say okay cool, more for me. It's not a big deal. So the kids that are starting, don't place all of the blame on the peers, it's the weakness (word?) of the child. If the child is well educated and knows the consequences and know where they stand, then it won't be an issue.

"Knowing what you stand for limits what you fall for."

[tessieca]

I did say that alcohol is a problem. That's a fact. But there's not a school in this country that doesn't have that problem. Well, public school anyway.

Careful, private schools are just as bad as Folsom High, if not worse. Take it from a parent who has had children at both and does not have their head in the sand (at least not this year).

[SacKen]

... I did say that alcohol is a problem. That's a fact. But there's not a school in this country that doesn't have that problem. ...

I think this might be where the disconnect is. Although people may exaggerate the level of drug and alcohol problems at the school, the issue is that it is a growing problem. When many of us were in school, it was a very small group of people that were into this stuff and it wasn't so openly accepted by the rest of as being somewhat normal and commonplace. You had the known pot-heads and stoners that we all talked about and made fun of, but they were a small group. Many teens would sneak alcohol on occasion, but it was never so open, blatant and frequent as it seems to be today.

I graduated in 1992. So I'm not talking about the 50's or anything like that. The stories I hear from family members currently in high school amaze me! The internet has turned high school into what was considered a college-type environment only 10 years ago! Don't get me started on the junior high stories I hear... that's some scary stuff!

[ESP Guy]

I think this might be where the disconnect is. Although people may exaggerate the level of drug and alcohol problems at the school, the issue is that it is a growing problem. When many of us were in school, it was a very small group of people that were into this stuff and it wasn't so openly accepted by the rest of as being somewhat normal and commonplace. You had the known pot-heads and stoners that we all talked about and made fun of, but they were a small group. Many teens would sneak alcohol on occasion, but it was never so open, blatant and frequent as it seems to be today.

I graduated in 1992. So I'm not talking about the 50's or anything like that. The stories I hear from family members currently in high school amaze me! The internet has turned high school into what was considered a college-type environment only 10 years ago! Don't get me started on the junior high stories I hear... that's some scary stuff!

cant say that I agree with you aside from there always being the known stoners, but almost every "preppy" I knew smoked pot or drank. I know I was one of few that were actually straightedge throug highschool (no, not the trendy xSxEx scenester kids, but just didnt drink smoke or anything). at least 80% of my football team smoked, just werent stoners.

Honestly the recreational or occasional use of drugs and or alcohol is what a lot of you are denying. By senior year 75% of the class will have tried or currently uses some sort of mood/mind altering substance.

[UnionBlondie16]

I'm sure private schools are just as bad; I just have never been to one so I can't speak for them.

I'm considered "preppy" but I've never done drugs and I don't drink. Neither do most of my friends who are also "preppy". You can't just narrow it down to stereotypes. It's not fair to. It's scattered. But there is still a "pot head" group. You know it's them because they're so freaking open about it.

Although, I do agree with the statement that by senior year 75% of teens will have tried something. That may even be an underestimate to be honest. Which, in my opinion, is sad.

[DrifeterDude13]

Sorry everyone, folsom IS as bad if not worse than what people are saying... the few teens left who don't need alcohol or weed at least 3 times a week? they're an endangered species.. honestly, there's nothing anyone can do about it except wait for them to grow out of it (believe it or not we DO grow out of it)
and yes, private schools are just as bad... teens cant escape any of this

[cw68]

I just got back from my 20th high school reunion and we all talked about how much partying everyone did back then. But then we compared it to all the different, and more intense, drugs that are available now and we were all glad that we weren't teens now. The general outcome? I didn't meet one person who said, "I should have partied more/done worse in school." On the contrary, most people wished the would have partied less and done better in school. I hope to get my kids to know this early on.

[mylo]

In other news, 7 students overdose on Triple-C
http://www.news10.ne...x?storyid=20595

Okay, so they're not from Folsom. I guess Folsom kids know their limits

[ESP Guy]

The general outcome? I didn't meet one person who said, "I should have partied more/done worse in school." On the contrary, most people wished the would have partied less and done better in school. I hope to get my kids to know this early on.

I dont think any kids are even saying that now... so...