262 replies to this topic

[Folsom Guy]

Ed we may disagree about politics at times, but I gotta say you rock! - that was a great letter and I am 100% in agreement with you about everything you said in all your posts about this subject and I think that's great that you took the time to write such a good letter to the city council

If I ever see you out and about - the beer is on me, you earned it

Amen

[Robert Giacometti]

Honestly Robert and no offense, but I think you're trippin' and still hating on Kerri - I do not see how this is a game to be doing what the vast majority of people here want - I know its a shock when a politician actually LISTENS to the will of the people, but I for one am glad that at least ONE member of the city council is willing to listen to what the citizens of Folsom are interested in.

Where is your proof that the politicians aren't listening? Did you ever stop to think that Steve, Eric, Andy & Jeff consistently get MORE votes than Kerri during elections and that maybe they are communicating with the MAJORITY of people who elected them?

Please don't tell me you are using some poll without any sciencitific methodology and any safeguards to reliability as your meauring stick for "will of the people"?

I'm disappointed to see you started down that slippery slope of thinking this is an issue of them against Kerri. This is EXACTLY what Kerri wants you to think! Once people start thinking this way all logic goes out the window. People start using emotions rather than logic.

You have never answered my question! If Kerri feels using the name JC is such a great opportunty to promote tourism in Folsom, Why hasn't she EVER demanded the Chamber do this before? I'll help you with the answer, its NOT about Johnny Cash, its about Kerri Howell.

If this issue would come to a vote by the citizens, its my sense the name Johnny Cash would NOT be approved by the voters. Its my sense that most people would see this for what it is, a cheap publicity stunt that Folsom DOESN'T need.

Another prediction I have is I'm sensing people are growing tired of Kerri's shenigans. I'd say there is a 50/50 chance you will see a recall against her next year. There is NO way she would survive. She only got 16% of the vote in the last election and NONE of her colleagues endorsed her.

If we really want to prostitute ourselves with name so we can throw a big party, why not use Brittany Spears or Paris Hilton? Get them to show up, drive them around town, making sure they get in and out of the car many times and get a picture of EDF discoing with them at the "meno" manor. This would be a bigger party than using JC.

Somebody would probably complain that Brittany or Paris had nothing to do with the bridge, of course neither does JC.

[ducky]

Where is your proof that the politicians aren't listening? Did you ever stop to think that Steve, Eric, Andy & Jeff consistently get MORE votes than Kerri during elections and that maybe they are communicating with the MAJORITY of people who elected them?

Please don't tell me you are using some poll without any sciencitific methodology and any safeguards to reliability as your meauring stick for "will of the people"?

I'm disappointed to see you started down that slippery slope of thinking this is an issue of them against Kerri. This is EXACTLY what Kerri wants you to think! Once people start thinking this way all logic goes out the window. People start using emotions rather than logic.

I am sorry, but I don't see what Kerri would have to gain by this kind of thinking.

You have never answered my question! If Kerri feels using the name JC is such a great opportunty to promote tourism in Folsom, Why hasn't she EVER demanded the Chamber do this before? I'll help you with the answer, its NOT about Johnny Cash, its about Kerri Howell.

I think people have tried to answer your question. This was a new and unique opportunity, a bridge overlooking the prsion about which Cash sang. The Chamber has been focusing on Sutter Street.

If this issue would come to a vote by the citizens, its my sense the name Johnny Cash would NOT be approved by the voters. Its my sense that most people would see this for what it is, a cheap publicity stunt that Folsom DOESN'T need.

I don't think this is an issue that needs to be voted on officially. It would be nice to have the council acknowledge that the name they chose makes no sense though. Even though I don't agree with the other four council members' decision, I also don't see them as evil. I would like to think if enough people contacted them about changing it, they would reconsider.

Another prediction I have is I'm sensing people are growing tired of Kerri's shenigans. I'd say there is a 50/50 chance you will see a recall against her next year. There is NO way she would survive. She only got 16% of the vote in the last election and NONE of her colleagues endorsed her.

What exactly has she done to warrant a recall?

If we really want to prostitute ourselves with name so we can throw a big party, why not use Brittany Spears or Paris Hilton? Get them to show up, drive them around town, making sure they get in and out of the car many times and get a picture of EDF discoing with them at the "meno" manor. This would be a bigger party than using JC.

Britney Spears and Paris Hilton didn't sing about Folsom - unless you count the spoof video of Paris singing "Folsom Prison Blues" during her stint in jail. I googled the three names of Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, and Johnny Cash along with the name Folsom and got 202,000, 225,000, and 958,000 hits respectively. (A lot of them were myfolsom tomato pages for Hilton & Spears)

Somebody would probably complain that Brittany or Paris had nothing to do with the bridge, of course neither does JC.
No, we would argue they have nothing to do with Folsom. Johnny Cash does.

[4thgenFolsomite]

I don't know how this went off on a Kerri Howell tangent. When I started this post, I had no idea of Kerri's involvement or her vote.

I honestly think its just a very good idea to name that bridge for Mr. Cash and it opens up some great opportunities to tell about our history here and what makes Folsom unique. I hope people don't get bogged down in their own political groupings and fight against the idea based on that.

Other towns can't buy the kind of publicity and fame Johnny Cash brought to Folsom by way of his song and his concert at our little historic prison. The bridge will be a great place for people to view the prison and we should take full advantage of that. Possibilities, people, possibilities!! Don't make this about politics.

[Dave Burrell]

Where is your proof that the politicians aren't listening? Did you ever stop to think that Steve, Eric, Andy & Jeff consistently get MORE votes than Kerri during elections and that maybe they are communicating with the MAJORITY of people who elected them?

Where is your proof that they ARE listening? Have you read the papers, seen the news? myfolsom is not the only place people are talking about support for naming the bridge after Cash.

Can you give me some examples of how those guys are communicating with the majority of the people better then Kerri? Because in 9 out of 10 of my dealings with the city, Kerri is the only one who consistently takes the time to reply.

How about this - maybe EDF can tell us who - if anyone - has replied to that email he sent...

Please don't tell me you are using some poll without any sciencitific methodology and any safeguards to reliability as your meauring stick for "will of the people"?

as noted above, myfolsom is not the only place that is showing support for the name change... and please - I talk with many people, I'm very involved with the city just like you were and I volunteer for many city functions so you're not the only one who's delt with the city council or the citizens of Folsom... and I'm not just using this site's poll as my measuring stick for the will of the people, give me a little more credit will ya

I'm disappointed to see you started down that slippery slope of thinking this is an issue of them against Kerri. This is EXACTLY what Kerri wants you to think! Once people start thinking this way all logic goes out the window. People start using emotions rather than logic.

that fact you even have to go there indicates to me you're still skiing on that slope... sorry, but when are you gonna stop your rants against Kerri? When you say this is what Kerri wants me to think, you lose a bit of credibility... because you assume too much, I'm a free thinker - I'm not a democrat and I'm not a republican - I think for myself. As noted before I thought naming the bridge after Cash was a great idea - that was before I even knew Kerri was for it too so you really gotta drop that lost cause, because it doesn't apply to me

You have never answered my question! If Kerri feels using the name JC is such a great opportunty to promote tourism in Folsom, Why hasn't she EVER demanded the Chamber do this before? I'll help you with the answer, its NOT about Johnny Cash, its about Kerri Howell.

You didn't answer my question either - she's supporting that idea NOW - so if you agree with it - why are you putting up a fight?? just to give Kerri grief??

Why are YOU making this all about Kerri?

If this issue would come to a vote by the citizens, its my sense the name Johnny Cash would NOT be approved by the voters. Its my sense that most people would see this for what it is, a cheap publicity stunt that Folsom DOESN'T need.

you may be right AND you may be wrong - putting it to a vote by the people would be great

however, I find it odd that you "sense" most people wouldn't be for it - when reality has been showing otherwise...but hey you're entitled to your opinion as much as I am to mine... it's all good

Another prediction I have is I'm sensing people are growing tired of Kerri's shenigans. I'd say there is a 50/50 chance you will see a recall against her next year. There is NO way she would survive. She only got 16% of the vote in the last election and NONE of her colleagues endorsed her.

again, back to the vendetta.... your hatred of her really shines Robert... thats not exactly a good thing. Did you lose to her in an election or something? I don't get why you hate her so much?

If we really want to prostitute ourselves with name so we can throw a big party, why not use Brittany Spears or Paris Hilton? Get them to show up, drive them around town, making sure they get in and out of the car many times and get a picture of EDF discoing with them at the "meno" manor. This would be a bigger party than using JC.

oh cripes! this is a statement from the 1800's... prostitute ourselves - yeah God forbid we do anything to attract tourism....

Somebody would probably complain that Brittany or Paris had nothing to do with the bridge, of course neither does JC.

Robert, I'm sorry... but that was a completely assanine statement to make

You can deny all you want that Johnny Cash was ever here or had anything to do with Folsom but reality shows us you're wrong about that

[Chad Vander Veen]

Robert, I'm sorry... but that was a completely assanine statement to make You can deny all you want that Johnny Cash was ever here or had anything to do with Folsom but reality shows us you're wrong about that

One of the words you should never misspell is asinine - especially when you are using it to describe someone's comment.

Otherwise, you're right on. Folsom is known the world over for two things - the prison and Johnny Cash. NOTHING will ever change that. No matter how nice a community Folsom is or becomes, it will ALWAYS be known for those two things. So we may as well capitalize on that reality.

**people, get Firefox for cryin' out loud, it has built-in spell check.

[ChipShot]

**people, get Firefox for cryin' out loud, it has built-in spell check.

**People, get Firefox for cryin' out loud. It has built-in spell check.

(fixed that for you)

[Dave Burrell]

One of the words you should never misspell is asinine - especially when you are using it to describe someone's comment.

Otherwise, you're right on. Folsom is known the world over for two things - the prison and Johnny Cash. NOTHING will ever change that. No matter how nice a community Folsom is or becomes, it will ALWAYS be known for those two things. So we may as well capitalize on that reality.

**people, get Firefox for cryin' out loud, it has built-in spell check.

heheh thanks Chad.... and I AM using Firefox.... but it didn't catch that one.. not sure why... d'oh

[EDF]

I've heard from Kerri Howell and Andy Morin...

Andy doesn't much care either way... and would probably vote for Johnny Cash... but you need a "3rd" vote...

so you folks need to call and/or email the other 3...

they probably won't take my phone call.. but they might take yours...

There are lots of great reasons to make this a "historical" event because Johnny Cash's song has made Folsom famous...

Naming the bridge after him would be a great marriage or partnership if you will of "pop culture" and "history"... and we get to show off our great town....

More folks have to get involved to get this going...

[Revolutionist]

I sent an email to all 5 council-humans (we have to be politically correct these days) on Tuesday wherein I expressed:
-the need to change the current non-sequitor "winning" name
-the support in the general community for honoring Mr Cash.
-my openness to support any name that is at the very least not broken - including a Cash name.
-and lastly thanking the members for thier service to our community


Kerri is the only person that answered

update: Andy just replied to me within the last hour.

[EDF]

I sent an email to all 5 council-humans (we have to be politically correct these days) on Tuesday wherein I expressed:
-the need to change the current non-sequitor "winning" name
-the support in the general community for honoring Mr Cash.
-my openness to support any name that is at the very least not broken - including a Cash name.
-and lastly thanking the members for thier service to our community
Kerri is the only person that answered

I don't know what the other 3 council memmbers think at this point, except that they have not responded to me...

If I don't get a response, then I think that shows volumes when they dont' take time to answer an email... I'll let you folks know if I hear back from them...

I hope they reconsider... it's really what is best for the community... don't you folks think...?

Can't we just have some fun with this... do we have to be a "stuck up" stick in the mud type of city...?

Can't we just "celebrate" that we were lucky to be in a world famous song that Johnny Cash sang that put us on the map...?

[folsom500]

Um I don't think the goal was to name just any bridge after Cash, just this one that is somewhat near the prison

To get maximum exposure -why not name it Johnny Cash Folsom Prison bypass--

[awood]

Where is your proof that the politicians aren't listening? Did you ever stop to think that Steve, Eric, Andy & Jeff consistently get MORE votes than Kerri during elections and that maybe they are communicating with the MAJORITY of people who elected them?

I don't care if Tom, Dick and Harry are the top 3 vote getters...I didn't know ANY of these people before the discussion started and could care less about their political aspirations. I care whether they represent me and MY OPINION is that A.) Folsom Lake Crossing is an emberassingly STUPID name. and B.) People around the world (none of which could name a single Folsom "politician") know Folsom for the prison and Johny Cash...THATS IT!

Please don't tell me you are using some poll without any sciencitific methodology and any safeguards to reliability as your meauring stick for "will of the people"?
Better that we trust your "sense"....that says a lot about your political means and methods.

I'm disappointed to see you started down that slippery slope of thinking this is an issue of them against Kerri. This is EXACTLY what Kerri wants you to think! Once people start thinking this way all logic goes out the window. People start using emotions rather than logic.
Like ignoring their constituents and going with their personal "sense" of right and wrong?

You have never answered my question! If Kerri feels using the name JC is such a great opportunty to promote tourism in Folsom, Why hasn't she EVER demanded the Chamber do this before? I'll help you with the answer, its NOT about Johnny Cash, its about Kerri Howell.
I don't CARE ABOUT YOUR QUESTION!!!! If Barney the dinosaur lived on Bidwell and stood up at the City Council and said "Folsom Lake Crossing is a stupid name and I think we should consider naming it after something people recognize as being part of Folsom" I would stand behind that purple dinosaur and say "Yeah me too!" and I don't give a hill of beans if Barney has aspirations of running for Governor!

If this issue would come to a vote by the citizens, its my sense the name Johnny Cash would NOT be approved by the voters. Its my sense that most people would see this for what it is, a cheap publicity stunt that Folsom DOESN'T need. YOUR sense. Well whats your sense about the upcoming Prez elections? Tonights Lotto #'s? The next hot stock? If you had all of the answers, we could save a lot of time and ask you....I don't recall doing so.

Another prediction I have is I'm sensing people are growing tired of Kerri's shenigans. I'd say there is a 50/50 chance you will see a recall against her next year. There is NO way she would survive. She only got 16% of the vote in the last election and NONE of her colleagues endorsed her.Kerri who? Again, A.) Folsom Lake Crossing is an emberassingly STUPID name. and B.) People around the world know Folsom for the prison and Johny Cash. PERIOD!!

If we really want to prostitute ourselves with name so we can throw a big party, why not use Brittany Spears or Paris Hilton? Get them to show up, drive them around town, making sure they get in and out of the car many times and get a picture of EDF discoing with them at the "meno" manor. This would be a bigger party than using JC. Oh I am sorry Bob, but I didn't realize that you had another "sense"? I am guessing that your "sense" is that using the Cash name is whoring ourselves out? Here is a test for you. Dial a random number...any number....start with the 219 and 574 area codes (where my family lives) and when they answer the phone ask "Have you ever heard of "Folsom"?" and the first time ANYONE that say's ANYTHING other than the prison or Johny Cash, I will put on fishnet stockings and start turning tricks on the Rainbow Bridge! Deal?

Somebody would probably complain that Brittany or Paris had nothing to do with the bridge, of course neither does JC.
Start dialing those random numbers.....and let me know when ANYONE agrees with your "sense" of what Folsom is about.

[EDF]

dang... there some passion there in that post

[old soldier]

now that would be downright wrong if the council boys were against the Cash bridge just to make our friend fiesty kerri mad

the thing thats screwy about california politics is that your actions don't have to please the voters that put you in office. on the state level its the screwy districts that make folks safe.

in folsom politics it who has the most signs out that wins and as long as the boys keep delivering on south of 50 the old developers will keep them in signs

this bridge thing is kind of a basic math problem and the council has it wrong. has anybody talked to the local country western station to get them on the honor cash idea.

I feel kinda sad that this blog has turned into a bash Kerri forum but she is getting my support and that of a lot of others....its like Kerri stepped into a "ring of fire"