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[cybertrano]

Common now. No lynching here. Everyone has his/her opinions. That's what America is all about.

I don't have any problem with the Lingerie but not the X-rated stuffs. THAT is my opinion. I disagree with what the shop will carry so I protest peacefully. What's wrong with that....

[cybertrano]

Do you mean to tell me that we can have couple XXXX stores open here in Folsom, and let the law of suply/demand govern? I think not. If anyone care about your city/community then one speaks out.

[tessieca]

Cal attends council meetings and stated that the "novelties" are really going to be x-rated. I am not sure what that means, but the fact that it is termed "x-rated" gives me the impression that it is not suitable for children (or maybe me). I don't know about the movies part and was just tossing that in as a scare tactic. It could happen.


John, I remember the city poring through all of its zoning codes and what businesses would be allowed under their ordinances. You are right that they were trying to tighten up a few areas. As an example, they changed it so that there is a certain distance required between gun stores and schools. If memory serves me, this was related to what was happening on Arden and in Rancho Cordova with the juice bars.

The city now has a moratorium on medical marijuana facilities in Folsom. Maybe those of you who want open and free enterprise want to support that location for that purpose instead of an x-rated store.

[Snickers]

Do you mean to tell me that we can have couple XXXX  stores open here in Folsom, and let the law of suply/demand govern?  I think not.  If anyone care about your city/community then one speaks out. 

Do you not think if the demand is not there, the shop will leave and/or go bankrupt. But if the demand is there........

The sad thing is speaking out doesn't seem to do much with the Folsom city council. Or California for that matter.

But it is time to vote!

[cybertrano]

it's sad....

The sad thing is speaking out doesn't seem to do much with the Folsom city council.  Or California for that matter.
 

[Domino Effect]

Whose definition of X-rated are you people using? Your own, your neighbors the church pastors, the media and certain money hungry people have informed you? Has anyone actually stopped by the store and talked to the owners, gone to the SOURCE or are you all just listening to hearsay and assuming the worst?
What are your definitions of X rated, novelties and hard core?
Isn’t this a case where these people are completely guilty before proven innocent?

You are all completely right and SMUT and hardcore is not appropriate for Sutter Street however everything I have heard from and talked to that do know the owners trust them. Instead of wasting your time assuming the worst, you ought to become educated and actually go to the source instead of listening to money hungry people who OBVIOUSLY have never talked to the owners.

From the sources I have talked to the things that WILL not be in there are
Porn Video
Strap on's
Peep shows
10 inch dildoes and numerous other items that the witch hunt, lynch mob has accused them of.

When you just assume something, you make and arse out of U and ME...ASSUME...go to the source instead of creating a lynch mob

[Cloud9]

Global Sex Survey

http://www.durex.com...p?intMenuOpen=8

- 56% of Americans watch pornography with their partners.

(That's the majority folks, so if you're in the minority, you're the deviation from the statistical norm, or as some people (not me) refer to it on these boards, the deviant)

- In the U.S. the average age of first sex is 16.9 - That's average folks so for every 19yr old that does it for the first time, there's a 13yr old.

Globally,

Almost half (49%) of those aged 35-44 have used pornography to add extra spice to their sex lives compared to 40% of 21-24 year olds and 32% of 25-34 year olds

More than a third (35%) watch pornography with their partner, 22% indulge in blindfolds or handcuffs and one in five uses sex toys

Watching pornography with their partner is more popular with women (38%) than men (33%) as is wearing blindfolds or handcuffs - 27% for women and 19% for men

The survey also reveals the average global age for first sex is now 17.7 and the trend is towards losing virginity earlier with today's 16-20 year olds becoming sexually active by 16.5.

[Orangetj]

Whose definition of X-rated are you people using? Your own, your neighbors the church pastors,  the media and certain money hungry people have informed you? Has anyone actually stopped by the store and talked to the owners, gone to the SOURCE or are you all just listening to hearsay and assuming the worst?
What are your definitions of X rated, novelties and hard core?
Isn’t this a case where these people are completely guilty before proven innocent?

You are all completely right and SMUT and hardcore is not appropriate for Sutter Street however everything I have heard from and talked to that do know the owners trust them. Instead of wasting your time assuming the worst, you ought to become educated and actually go to the source instead of listening to money hungry people who OBVIOUSLY have never talked to the owners.

From the sources I have talked to the things that WILL not be in there are
Porn Video
Strap on's
Peep shows
10 inch dildoes and numerous other items that the witch hunt, lynch mob has accused them of.

When you just assume something, you make and arse out of U and ME...ASSUME...go to the source instead of creating a lynch mob

No 10 inch dildos??? What kind of thong & dildo shop is this!? They definitely won't get my patronage now. I guess I'll keep having to drive out to sunrise for my strap-on's and 10 inch dildos!

[bishmasterb]

No 10 inch dildos??? What kind of thong & dildo shop is this!?  They definitely won't get my patronage now.  I guess I'll keep having to drive out to sunrise for my strap-on's and 10 inch dildos!

Folsom, home of the 9.5" dildo!

[pampChefLady]

I was just wondering the same thing.

The way you get something or not is by buying the products or not.

I am way in the back of this thread, but, really.  If you or your town don't want some sort of product than don't buy it. 

Remember - supply and demand - anyone???  Capitalism, anyone???



Scary... maybe it's just the holiday.

Well, isn't this why we have zoning ordinances, because people want some control over what goes into their community? Part of my problem with this idea (and I'm usually all for capitalism) is that they don't have to attract Folsom customers to make enough to stay in business. In fact, as I've contended, I think many of the customers would NOT be average Folsom citizens, but folks driving here, to buy where they can be anonymous - AWAY from their own communities. And with the margins on this type of product, even if every person in Folsom hated the store and chose not to shop there, it could still do fine and remain a place we have to avoid with our kids when we're shopping at Thursday Night Markets and such.

While I don't want the government overly involved in daily life, we don't have a pure capitalistic society because some things are morally wrong while economically profitable...

[Adamal]

Well, isn't this why we have zoning ordinances, because people want some control over what goes into their community?  Part of my problem with this idea (and I'm usually all for capitalism) is that they don't have to attract Folsom customers to make enough to stay in business.  In fact, as I've contended, I think many of the customers would NOT be average Folsom citizens, but folks driving here, to buy where they can be anonymous - AWAY from their own communities.  And with the margins on this type of product, even if every person in Folsom hated the store and chose not to shop there, it could still do fine and remain a place we have to avoid with our kids when we're shopping at Thursday Night Markets and such.

While I don't want the government overly involved in daily life, we don't have a pure capitalistic society because some things are morally wrong while economically profitable...

So what community will be driving all the way to folsom to buy this stuff. Most of the other communities have sex shops that will have more selection then a Lingerie Shop. Remember we are still talking about a Lingerie Shop unless I hear/see contrete evidence to the contrary.

If it is a porn shop then show me proof. Also people are saying they will sell X-Rated stuff in there. That is way too broad of a definition. What may be X-Rated to you may not be to someone else. To some a dildo/vibrator is X-Rated but you can go pick one of those up just down the street at Walmart.

[Orangetj]

Where will these people be coming from? I kind of doubt it will be Rancho Cordova or Citrus Heights residents, as they can go to the place on Sunrise at Fair Oaks more easily than dealing with traffic and parking near Sutter Street. It certainly won't be people from Carmichael/Sacramento, as there's a place on Auburn Boulevard as I recall which has got to be closer than Folsom. I guess people will be coming down from El Dorado Hills...ahh the horror!

Seriously, though, despite my joking tone I fully respect your opinion and appreciate that you want what you believe is best for Folsom.

[Domino Effect]

"Supposidly" the ordinance currently set in place states that 25% or less of the merchandise sold in a store as well as their gross income that is adult related material is not in any way considered a sex shop. They will not in any way have that much. Would you consider a PH balanced lubricant for woman X-rated or hard core? i dont think so... do you consider a silk blindfold or a game of strip chocolate, feathers or a "massager" for a woman and couples X-rated? Come on people get real? If you ask me its a witch hunt. You have only heard one side of their store and when someone starts a rumor tell me these rumors don't get out of hand? how can they fight back when they are trying to open and have so many ignorant, un-educated people beating down their necks? go to the damn place and talk to them before you nail them to the cross. Me personally, I am going down today to talk with them. I want the facts and not a 1 sided rumor. did you know that this couple actually opened up their doors to merchants on their own accord to share with them their business plan and got tompletely slammed. 40 ignorant people against 2 people who was trying to work with the community and work with the town and the mrechants before all of these nasty rumors got out of hand.

[Erika]

You are all completely right and SMUT and hardcore is not appropriate for Sutter Street however everything I have heard from and talked to that do know the owners trust them. Instead of wasting your time assuming the worst, you ought to become educated and actually go to the source instead of listening to money hungry people who OBVIOUSLY have never talked to the owners.

From the sources I have talked to the things that WILL not be in there are
Porn Video
Strap on's
Peep shows
10 inch dildoes and numerous other items that the witch hunt, lynch mob has accused them of.

What sources have you talked to? I want some websites, phone numbers, etc. I agree that a porn shop isn't appropriate for Sutter St. A lingerie shop is entirely different. I had posted over in "where's the line" what is the definition of X-rated. Everyone is giving an entirely different definition...it is a very broad term. I would consider some gag gifts as being X-rated. So under my definition X-rated items would be ok....some of them, that is.

[Erika]

So what community will be driving all the way to folsom to buy this stuff.  Most of the other communities have sex shops that will have more selection then a Lingerie Shop.  Remember we are still talking about a Lingerie Shop unless I hear/see contrete evidence to the contrary.

If it is a porn shop then show me proof.  Also people are saying they will sell X-Rated  stuff in there. That is way too broad of a definition.  What may be X-Rated to you may not be to someone else.  To some a dildo/vibrator is X-Rated but you can go pick one of those up just down the street at Walmart.

True, who would actually drive all the way to Folsom? There are so many other places that would probably have much more interesting items.

Walmart, Target, Mervyn's, and Kohl's all have items one could consider X-rated.