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#151 tsukiji

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

Seems like a paranoid way to go through life.


Nice attitude. Thanks for reaffirming my instincts.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:21 PM


Seems like a paranoid way to go through life.


For people who actually leave their houses and venture outside their bubble once in a while, it's as easy to understand the desire to carry for safety as it is to understand why we pay for insurance




Nice attitude. Thanks for reaffirming my instincts.


Never expect much from him, he's very narrow minded

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:39 PM

Funny thing. People against guns will pay thousands of dollars a year for insurance against things they hope will never happen....yet when I say I would like a semi auto shotgun, or AR, or 30 round magazine as insurance against things I hope will never happen, I am considered ridiculous. lol

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:51 PM

Oh, this just in...CO house passes 4 "gun control measures"... on to Senate.

One of which was the restriction on concealed carry on campus. Here is a Dem rep on why:

“It’s why we have call boxes, it’s why we have safe zones, it’s why we have the whistles. Because you just don’t know who you’re gonna be shooting at. And you don’t know if you feel like you’re gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone’s been following you around or if you feel like you’re in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop around at somebody.”

After all...you fragile young women might not even be able to determine if there is a threat or not.

While you are getting raped in your "safe zone," here is the advice from the campus bureaucrats:


Be realistic about your ability to protect yourself.
Your instinct may be to scream, go ahead! It may startle your attacker and give you an opportunity to run away.
Kick off your shoes if you have time and can’t run in them.
Don’t take time to look back; just get away.
If your life is in danger, passive resistance may be your best defense.
Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating.
Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone.
Yelling, hitting or biting may give you a chance to escape, do it!
Understand that some actions on your part might lead to more harm. (and some inaction as well)
Remember, every emergency situation is different. Only you can decide which action is most appropriate.

(Unless you decide deadly force is needed, then you are s.o.l)

"Safe zones..." what a moronic. utopian concept.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive" -- C.S. Lewis

 

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:06 AM

Oh, this just in...CO house passes 4 "gun control measures"... on to Senate.

One of which was the restriction on concealed carry on campus. Here is a Dem rep on why:

“It’s why we have call boxes, it’s why we have safe zones, it’s why we have the whistles. Because you just don’t know who you’re gonna be shooting at. And you don’t know if you feel like you’re gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone’s been following you around or if you feel like you’re in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop around at somebody.”

After all...you fragile young women might not even be able to determine if there is a threat or not.

While you are getting raped in your "safe zone," here is the advice from the campus bureaucrats:


Be realistic about your ability to protect yourself.
Your instinct may be to scream, go ahead! It may startle your attacker and give you an opportunity to run away.
Kick off your shoes if you have time and can’t run in them.
Don’t take time to look back; just get away.
If your life is in danger, passive resistance may be your best defense.
Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating.
Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone.
Yelling, hitting or biting may give you a chance to escape, do it!
Understand that some actions on your part might lead to more harm. (and some inaction as well)
Remember, every emergency situation is different. Only you can decide which action is most appropriate.

(Unless you decide deadly force is needed, then you are s.o.l)

"Safe zones..." what a moronic. utopian concept.


Sometimes it's best for people like me to create our own "safe zone" and it doesn't follow all of those rules above of how to be a better victim.

On that note, for any women that are interested, Folsom Martial Arts Center is having a Women's Only Self Defense Seminar/Workshop this Saturday, Feb 23, from 2 - 4 p.m. It's $35. I haven't attended this particular training, but any skills are good. Even though I've never had to use my self-defense training and hope to never have to, I don't consider it paranoid for having learned it.

Even though I don't feel comfortable around guns and could never envision myself carrying one on my person out and about, I sure don't have a problem with the other responsible people I know that are well-trained and do.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:11 AM

“Shotgun Joe” Biden shoots his mouth off at women. He says you can’t be trusted to choose which type of firearm is best for you and your own personal protection.

In a Facebook town hall hosted by Parents magazine, vice president Joe Biden responded to a woman concerned that bans on various weapons may make law-abiding citizens more susceptible to criminals with the following advice: “If you want to protect yourself, get a double-barreled shotgun.” “You don’t need an AR-15, it’s harder to aim, it’s harder to use,” he stressed.

Biden indicated that he has given his own wife the same advice. “I said, ‘Jill, if there’s ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, put that double-barreled shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house,’” he said, and urged viewers, in closing, “Buy a shotgun, buy a shotgun!”

Biden previously voiced his affinity for shotguns in a January 24 Google Plus “fireside hangout,” insisting that they are more accurate than assault weapons. Shotguns, he said, “will keep you a lot safer — a double-barreled shotgun — than an assault weapon in somebody’s hand who doesn’t know how to use it, even one who does know how to use it.”

Biden owns a Beretta pistol. He reassured an audience during the 2008 campaign that President Obama would not infringe on the rights of gun owners, telling the crowd, “Barack Obama ain’t takin’ my shotgun, so don’t buy that malarky. . . I got two, and if [Obama] tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem!”

The Obama administration, per recommendations provided by a task force led by Biden, is currently pushing several gun-control measures, including a ban on semi-automatic weapons and universal background checks.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:42 AM

Nice attitude. Thanks for reaffirming my instincts.

I wasn't being snarky. I'm a public school teacher but I can't go to work thinking this is the day my school gets shot up. There are nearly 100,000 public schools in the U.S.and the odds are overwhelmingly against anything happening. You can't spend your life worrying about the unknown.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:43 AM

“Shotgun Joe” Biden shoots his mouth off at women. He says you can’t be trusted to choose which type of firearm is best for you and your own personal protection.

In a Facebook town hall hosted by Parents magazine, vice president Joe Biden responded to a woman concerned that bans on various weapons may make law-abiding citizens more susceptible to criminals with the following advice: “If you want to protect yourself, get a double-barreled shotgun.” “You don’t need an AR-15, it’s harder to aim, it’s harder to use,” he stressed.

Biden indicated that he has given his own wife the same advice. “I said, ‘Jill, if there’s ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, put that double-barreled shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house,’” he said, and urged viewers, in closing, “Buy a shotgun, buy a shotgun!”

Biden previously voiced his affinity for shotguns in a January 24 Google Plus “fireside hangout,” insisting that they are more accurate than assault weapons. Shotguns, he said, “will keep you a lot safer — a double-barreled shotgun — than an assault weapon in somebody’s hand who doesn’t know how to use it, even one who does know how to use it.”

Biden owns a Beretta pistol. He reassured an audience during the 2008 campaign that President Obama would not infringe on the rights of gun owners, telling the crowd, “Barack Obama ain’t takin’ my shotgun, so don’t buy that malarky. . . I got two, and if [Obama] tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem!”

The Obama administration, per recommendations provided by a task force led by Biden, is currently pushing several gun-control measures, including a ban on semi-automatic weapons and universal background checks.


Another example where the government is trying to emotionally sway attention away from the primary confirmation of the Second Amendment and its conflict of interest. Second Amendment is a protection against government.

What qualifications makes Biden an authority on what tools are the best tactical choices? His comments are actually prove he has NO knowledge of weapons and how they could be used. It's shameful that his obvious lack of expertise is included in any guidance and that he doesn't recognize his limitations. Where else is he mistaking his expertise in guiding the country?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:20 PM

Biden has zero knowledge, as he always does he's just talking out of his behind

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

I wasn't being snarky. I'm a public school teacher but I can't go to work thinking this is the day my school gets shot up. There are nearly 100,000 public schools in the U.S.and the odds are overwhelmingly against anything happening. You can't spend your life worrying about the unknown.

They used to think that in Israel too but now have armed guards and fenced campuses. Given the times don't think for a second that prospective terrorists or just home grown nut jobs won't use schools as a target in the future especially given the reaction from Sandy Hook. Times have changed since 9/11. In my training sessions on terrorism it's stated that it's not if but when there will be another attack on US soil. I'm not a conspiracy theorists nor do I sit and worry about things that might happen. I do believe an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of wish I would have. I respect you chosen career, it's a noble profession but I do think you are misguided on your odds making....

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:36 PM

Given the times don't think for a second that prospective terrorists or just home grown nut jobs won't use schools as a target in the future especially given the reaction from Sandy Hook.


Especially since they know everyone will be disarmed by this administration and it will be an easy hit.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:36 PM

putting armed guards in schools is just one step closer to an occupied force controlling your movements and your emotional power to fight back. Would you fight tyranny if an armed force was sitting on your child's school?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

An armed guard is not an armed force, good grief

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:14 PM

putting armed guards in schools is just one step closer to an occupied force controlling your movements and your emotional power to fight back. Would you fight tyranny if an armed force was sitting on your child's school?

I'd rather die fighting than on my knees. I'd feel better knowing that my kids stood a chance if some nut job came to shoot up their school rather than waiting for the police to show up. Or maybe you could shout at them SM, I'm sure a nut job would back down then.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:28 PM

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