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[ducky]

Interesting article.  Seems about right for what will happen when conserved water is used for new development instead of letting reservoirs and aquifers refill.

 

www.naturalnews.com/047061_water_rationing_California_drought.html#

[Darth Lefty]

I just remembered that at the beginning of this thread I was suspicious of the sock puppet who started it so I clicked his account info... he last logged in three days after he posted the thread, in February. I guess it wasn't that interesting.

[maestro]

I just remembered that at the beginning of this thread I was suspicious of the sock puppet who started it so I clicked his account info... he last logged in three days after he posted the thread, in February. I guess it wasn't that interesting.

 

 

There are some new posts involving our water.    They're in the city council candidates topic because our water is 100% political.   Please take a look at the  public documents used for the information in the posts.

[maestro]

[maestro]

Well,  update now on our missing water.

 

Folsom city council agenda Feb. 10, was just posted.   It has bond borrowing for "Willow Hill" pipes Res. 9304, 9305.

Not only did the council "give" Folsom reservoir water to FPA south of 50 3,514 acres, but now they are making us provide the borrowing power to build the pipe to steal our water and send it to FPA owners.

The 'facility district' involved in borrowing is created under Ord. 1179, which claims the city district law is superior to Mello Roos legislation and all the other CA laws.     Steal non-existent water, and make us responsible for the pipe, rather than the land-owners who benefit from it all????????    Check the city council agenda section.

 

Best of all, city claims it is using TWICE the drought allotment of water, which is 17,000 acre feet at the current water level in the reservoir.    City is not telling the truth about have "Rights" now to 34,000 acre feet.

 

 

 

Could post today's update video of reservoir water, but it is the very same image as this Nov. 2014 video.    Considering our wettest month is past -- bone dry --    this is very concerning.

[supermom]

I always think it weird that they say Jan is our wettest month. Maybe state wide overall but for this area, our wettest part of the season nearly always starts on my son's bday (close to the end of the month in march) and lasts a week or two alongside of nasty winds.)

 

So maybe we are still gonna get a few soakers. cant hurt to hope.

[maestro]

Maestro, if I'm correctly reading the packet for Community Facilities District 17 (Willow Hill Pipeline), it all relates to  south of 50 property owners, not anyone north of 50.  Attachment 3 even shows the boundaries and a list of parcels and in Attachment 2 it lists out how much the assessment will cost them - annually, I think.

Total cost of the pipeline fix will be $7.6 million and $1.9 million in grants to help pay for it.

 

Ducky,  our borrowing power is behind the Bonds --   it should be the 2 landowners funding the improvements, then dedicating them to the city.

 

Do you realize this pipe is to steal our Folsom reservoir water and convey it under highway 50 to FPA?

 

Remember Measure W "totally new water source?"        

Remember the Water Forum Agreement?    Folsom is currently taking 20,000 acre feet, when our allotment --   us, the existing city residents --    is only 17,000 acre feet.

Our 17,000 allotment is certain to go lower.      So why should current residents use their Credit rating and responsibility to borrow for the benefit of FPA water users.

 

 

Earlier in this topic are the direct links to the Water Forum Agreement and the Urban Water Mgmt Plan in which a Licensed Engineer states the city exceeded its "allotment" in about 2007 or 2009. 

 

Link to USBR.gov where you can find the 2005 Plan is also included.

[maestro]

Word is out.    The federal water guardians are forced to reduce the American River flows even in winter.

Is this winter???

 

The governor needs to get serious and establish some real priorities so we have water for survival and sanitation, and not for more new housing in deserts.

 

Did you know his agencies gave permits for Fracking well operators to put their fracking waste back into the ground -- into the drinking water aquifers?       Last week the EPA Chief in SF  said he was advising the state to stop giving Permits for polluting, and get with the drought program.       

[maestro]

Folsom Telegraph February 11, 2015, included my op-ed letter about "Sewage Talks a huge Mess."

 

If someone can find a link, please post it.   thanks.

[camay2327]

I think this might be it.

From the Wednesday Feb 11 2015 Folsom Telegraph

 

 

http://www.folsomtel...talks-huge-mess

 

 

 

I found this in the Feb 03, 2015 edition. I will keep looking.

 

http://www.folsomtel...cess-ways-forum

[camay2327]

From the channel 10 News, Monica Woods....

 

http://www.news10.ne...highs/23405117/

[TruthSeeker]

Is it really safe for us to drink, bathe in and water plants with water that is this heavily chlorinated?

[maestro]

Is it really safe for us to drink, bathe in and water plants with water that is this heavily chlorinated?

OK,   please don't go up for a hike at Folsom Reservoir today because you might see that treated water is not the issue.    After Fukishima meltdown and the tsunami garbage broke apart and entered the sea and air, the polymers (plastics) were quite visible in 2011,  when the reservoir was permitted to fill to the top.    There's a white bathtub ring around the high-water mark;  it's the small, light plastic particles which rose to the top, were heated by the intense sunlight, and formed a white polymer ring.    Since Plastic is Forever, you can still see the clumps of plastic that wash up after a storm.     They sit at the shoreline looking like permanent foam.     This foam is forever unfortunately.  

 

Add to that all the stuff for which drinking water is NOT treated nor even tested:     teflon, mercury, RX drugs, irradiated waste, etc.      It isn't even worth taking samples.

 

Ignoring the problems won't change things or make our lives safer.     This is the crowded world we live in now.         We do the best we can and hope for the best, and change as many of our polluting habits as we are able, for our childrens' sake.

 

Folsom Reservoir videos: 

[caligirlz]

Is it really safe for us to drink, bathe in and water plants with water that is this heavily chlorinated?

No...

Not all water filters remove chlorine. Mine does. Big Berkey

[maestro]

This water topic began a year ago.    This year, next Tuesday, the council has Res. 9505 on the Consent Calendar for silent approval without discussion.    It claims to be a Neg Declaration for the entire FPA   South of 50  3,514 acres.

 

It purports to be the final approval for construction S50 to begin.     But the City Engineer never sealed & Approved FPA plans -- not even the one being Neg-Dec'd with 9505.      US Bureau of Reclamation stated the city's environment document is NOT adequate and refused the city any water the council requested for FPA.

 

The city is already using more than twice our American River allotment from the Water Forum Agreement, yet council claims they can add FPA to our dwindled water supply.     Can you envision tons of residences in FPA --  but no water whatsoever exists for drinking and sanitation.      Is this a macabre joke?     Sewage?    All 3,514 acres of sewage will LACK their own pipe to the sewage plant.    The council is adding them onto our 27 inch diameter Mainline;   saves the developers perhaps a $ billion or two.    Omitting the water supply pipes from the Sac River saved the owner almost a Billion.

 

You can get the Res. 9505 Public Comment with attached SEWAGE CONNECTION "FPA  backbone" plan illustration.    Just do a Public Records Act Request with City Clerk.