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[nomad]

No $$$ in Africa to buy or develop drugs so now the wildfire spread is on. Lots of big Pharm will be looking to get on the US govt gravy train to fix this now, ie MAPP.

[bordercolliefan]

No $$$ in Africa to buy or develop drugs so now the wildfire spread is on. Lots of big Pharm will be looking to get on the US govt gravy train to fix this now, ie MAPP.

Well, let's hope so!

It seems they are having some luck with transfusing the blood of Ebola survivors into sick people... but we don't know if there are any bad side effects. I think they've done this for the Dallas nurse. I hope she survives.

[supermom]

I can't imagine my internal organs becoming pudding while I lie in bed and scream.

 

I too, hope the nurse recovers and has very little, if any, lasting side effects.

 

Hopefully- they can fix her up. Or keep her pain free.

[nomad]

Well, let's hope so!

It seems they are having some luck with transfusing the blood of Ebola survivors into sick people... but we don't know if there are any bad side effects. I think they've done this for the Dallas nurse. I hope she survives.

 

The problem is the number of people that die will far outweigh the number that survive and can give these transfusions. A cure or vaccine is needed quickly but quickly could be years!

[4thgenFolsomite]

A second nurse with Ebola in Texas. Bummer for the healthcare workers, but I'm still not going into my bomb shelter yet.

[ducky]

A second nurse with Ebola in Texas. Bummer for the healthcare workers, but I'm still not going into my bomb shelter yet.

 

It is terrible that the people on the front lines to help others are the ones who are most at risk.  I have heard that some healthcare institutions are now taking this seriously and are doing training and education specifically for Ebola protocols.  They are saying this patient was in isolation in 90 minutes.

 

I think what would be scary is if this somehow gets a foothold in Mexico.  I don't think they have anywhere near the capability we have to isolate and treat cases.  With our porous or nonexistent border, well, it could spread really fast.

 

Edit:  Now they are saying the second healthcare worker that tested positive was on an airliner from Cleveland to Dallas before being put into isolation.  I would think when they say they are tracking 75 people that had contact with the patient that that would mean stay close to home and limit contact with others, but I guess not.

[4thgenFolsomite]

It is terrible that the people on the front lines to help others are the ones who are most at risk.  I have heard that some healthcare institutions are now taking this seriously and are doing training and education specifically for Ebola protocols.  They are saying this patient was in isolation in 90 minutes.
 
I think what would be scary is if this somehow gets a foothold in Mexico.  I don't think they have anywhere near the capability we have to isolate and treat cases.  With our porous or nonexistent border, well, it could spread really fast.

Wow, that is an excellent point, Ducky! Mexico would be a nightmare!

[bordercolliefan]

What is puzzling is that so far, no one who was actually in the house with Duncan has tested positive. The only conclusion I can draw is that people get more contagious the sicker they get... so the hospital workers were at more risk.

Edit:  Now they are saying the second healthcare worker that tested positive was on an airliner from Cleveland to Dallas before being put into isolation.  I would think when they say they are tracking 75 people that had contact with the patient that that would mean stay close to home and limit contact with others, but I guess not.

I agree with you Ducky. This looks like yet another place where CDC has dropped the ball--apparently not giving adequate guidelines for what "quarantine" means.

[ducky]

What is puzzling is that so far, no one who was actually in the house with Duncan has tested positive. The only conclusion I can draw is that people get more contagious the sicker they get... so the hospital workers were at more risk.


I agree with you Ducky. This looks like yet another place where CDC has dropped the ball--apparently not giving adequate guidelines for what "quarantine" means.

 

I guess they'll now be "tracking" at least another 132. 

[nomad]

 

I guess they'll now be "tracking" at least another 132. 

 

Obama is skipping golf today to have a meeting on how to "address" this problem again. Will be interesting to see what the "response" is now since before it was "highly unlikely" that Ebola would even reach our shores.

[bordercolliefan]

I guess bureaucrats at the CDC don't want to sound like Chicken Little "the sky is falling, the sky is falling..." but they should have had a greater sense of urgency about this threat.

It was predictable that eventually someone would show up in America with Ebola. I heard on NPR that 150 people per day enter the U.S. from the three affected African countries, so it was going to happen. The CDC could have used the last 6 months training hospitals and local health departments around the country how to contain this thing... doesn't sound like that happened.

Now the national nurses' union is up in arms about nurses' lack of training to deal with this thing. We may find our medical personnel refusing to treat Ebola patients and/or refusing to go to work if there is an Ebola patient in their hospital... then we'll really be in trouble.

[cw68]

Where is the personal responsibility? Why did that nurse travel ? If I have the possibility of having Ebola, I wouldn't be going anywhere! Same thing with the quarantined workers out east who went for fast food. My God people, suck it up. 21 days to protect the health of scores of others? How self-centered we are.

Ok, off soap box.

[ducky]

I guess bureaucrats at the CDC don't want to sound like Chicken Little "the sky is falling, the sky is falling..." but they should have had a greater sense of urgency about this threat.

It was predictable that eventually someone would show up in America with Ebola. I heard on NPR that 150 people per day enter the U.S. from the three affected African countries, so it was going to happen. The CDC could have used the last 6 months training hospitals and local health departments around the country how to contain this thing... doesn't sound like that happened.

Now the national nurses' union is up in arms about nurses' lack of training to deal with this thing. We may find our medical personnel refusing to treat Ebola patients and/or refusing to go to work if there is an Ebola patient in their hospital... then we'll really be in trouble.

 

The airline cleaning crews at La Guardia have already gone on strike.

[bordercolliefan]

Where is the personal responsibility? Why did that nurse travel ? If I have the possibility of having Ebola, I wouldn't be going anywhere! Same thing with the quarantined workers out east who went for fast food. My God people, suck it up. 21 days to protect the health of scores of others? How self-centered we are.

People are (a) dumb and (b) selfish. Our public health authorities need to anticipate that.

It doesn't help that the authorities have spread the message that one is not contagious if one does not have symptoms. While I hope that is true, it only encourages at-risk individuals to think, "Well, I feel okay... so I might as well head into a confined space with 130 other people..."

[ducky]

Good point about personal responsibility.

 

"You've just been exposed to a disease that has a high fatality rate and you are in the incubation period.  What are you going to do next?"

 

"I'm going to Disneyland!"