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#166 Eric

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 01:33 PM

Then it appears the parents haven't accepted it as fact.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 01:39 PM

I read the post on the other forum relaying part of what the child's father said. The park naming issue is kind of a funny thing. In NS none of the small parks are actually named. There were a couple of small swatches of land that the developers used to offset the Quimby requirement (they also used the front yards as "park" space). Big Foot park is not officially named that, but is well-known as Big Foot park because of the big foot artwork. Since it is an unnamed park, I suspect one can call it whatever they want. I'm not sure how I feel about naming a park after someone who tragically died there.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 01:40 PM

I spoke with the father yesterday, but it wasn't to discuss how it happened, rather it was to express our condolences and offer support. I would hope everyone would agree that is the most important thing right now, and the rumors and speculation don't help. I know we all want answers, and they will come in time, but right now is not that time.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE(Eric @ Mar 15 2007, 02:24 PM) View Post
Are you sure about that? Did you read Farley's message regarding his conversation with A's father? Did you speak to the father?



Don't be too quick to judge others posts- Steve's response was rational and historically correct- the new information from Andre's father was just as recent as Steve's post- and while I have been skeptical even after the news last night- I can understand that most would think it was a resolved and accepted situation ...


See you all at the park - to pay our respects to Andre




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Posted 15 March 2007 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE(folsom500 @ Mar 15 2007, 02:43 PM) View Post
Don't be too quick to judge others posts- Steve's response was rational and historically correct- the new information from Andre's father was just as recent as Steve's post- and while I have been skeptical even after the news last night- I can understand that most would think it was a resolved and accepted situation ...
See you all at the park - to pay our respects to Andre


You're right... I didn't notice that the post times were one minute off (just saw that his post was after yours) ...Sorry 'bout that Steve.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE(brown @ Mar 15 2007, 02:40 PM) View Post
I spoke with the father yesterday, but it wasn't to discuss how it happened, rather it was to express our condolences and offer support. I would hope everyone would agree that is the most important thing right now, and the rumors and speculation don't help. I know we all want answers, and they will come in time, but right now is not that time.



I have children in Elementary school and some of the kids in the neighborhood are afraid to be alone.. neighbors kids ..I guess in a way it has made us all closer and more aware of the kids around us. I really wish we did know, I can't say I'm not a little afraid to have the kids walk to school, or go out front now.
I feel so much pain for their family and hope they are blessed with peace.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE(folsomfishmom @ Mar 15 2007, 02:51 PM) View Post
I have children in Elementary school and some of the kids in the neighborhood are afraid to be alone.. neighbors kids ..I guess in a way it has made us all closer and more aware of the kids around us. I really wish we did know, I can't say I'm not a little afraid to have the kids walk to school, or go out front now.
I feel so much pain for their family and hope they are blessed with peace.


If one thing positive comes out of this- I think it will a greater care and love for our children - not over-protective - but more interested in them - and how they are doing and maybe what they are doing. We do not know what evils lurk in our information age or in our community- but we do find out many things from the tragedy of others-

I hope Andre's legacy is to bring families closer together .. .


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Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE(chris v @ Mar 13 2007, 02:33 PM) View Post
There is most definately kkk in the area. Placerville has a group. But, in the Sac/Citrus Heights/Orangevale area there are many different white power groups. THese are the ones you need to watch out for.



Chris V- You have no clue, do you. There is no KKK in orangevale or Placerville. However thay do have a small clan in Sac-town. There is some Skinheads in OV and Placerville has a handfull of Arayan Brothers. Get your fact straight.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE(folsom500 @ Mar 15 2007, 03:05 PM) View Post
If one thing positive comes out of this- I think it will a greater care and love for our children - not over-protective - but more interested in them - and how they are doing and maybe what they are doing. We do not know what evils lurk in our information age or in our community- but we do find out many things from the tragedy of others-

I hope Andre's legacy is to bring families closer together .. .


When I first heard about this family's tragedy, I was sickened, then heart broken. I went home and gave my kids extra hugs, attention, advice, and warnings, and listened to what they had to say.

I told them that they didn't come with instruction manuals, and that as parents, we do the best we can, learning as we go. I told them how much I love them and how much they mean to me.

My daughter Jennifer went to school with Andre's older sister, and knew Andre through her circle of friends. They weren't close, but knew each other.

Yesterday, she wrote me a letter telling me that this tragedy has made her realize how much she loves her family. She said, 'If I can get this upset over the death of an acquaintance of mine, I can't imagine how I would feel if it happened to my sister or parents". She told me thanked me for bringing candles and water to her and her friends the other night, and said she's lucky to have us.

In a way, Andre's legacy of bringing families together has already begun.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:35 PM

I read the parent interview in the other forum and wondered about the dad's bad comment about the folsom police. the dad is in law enforcement himself and for him to say about arrogance is not good. it would be bad if the officers at folsom prison got a negative thing going with our police

usually at least on tv the detectives run investigations and the patrol folks secure the scent but O don't know if our plolice department is big enough to have full time seasoned detectives

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:44 PM

Yes, it is terrible that the family is so unhappy with the police. In such a situation, one would want to have total confidence in the people doing the investigation...

I still find this very hard to comprehend. It all seems very complicated (and sophisticated, in a wierd way) for a lone 15 year old to undertake.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:48 PM

Andre's death is a tragady, which could have occurred to any curious child. Anyone who casts stones should first consider the Karma of your statement.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:49 PM

OMG, what has come over you? How dare you say such horrible things when someone just lost their life. All teenagers have problems! Shoot all adults have problems. What makes you think you are right about it?

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this! AND, maybe Folsom PD should take a look at you!

This person needs to be banned from posting here!

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:51 PM

I don't want to believe this was a accident. Andre would never do that to himself. The interview with his parents was not convincing at all. It sounded like the cops told them what to say because Andres parents already know how it happened. Considering his dad was a Corrections officer and that whole rumor with the Mexican gang. I don't know if this is true I'm justing stating what I think.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 02:53 PM

QUOTE(stuntman @ Mar 15 2007, 03:51 PM) View Post
that whole rumor with the Mexican gang


And it's exactly that.




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