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Posted 15 October 2004 - 11:05 AM

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You have only heard one side of their store and when someone starts a rumor tell me these rumors don't get out of hand?  how can they fight back when they are trying to open and have so many ignorant, un-educated people beating down their necks?  go to the damn place and talk to them before you nail them to the cross.  Me personally, I am going down today to talk with them.  I want the facts and not a 1 sided rumor. 

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Great, so when you talk to them, tell them about this great medium for addressing all the "ignorant" people in town and get them to post the "truth" here. I don't have time to go talk to everyone opening a store in town, so I rely on other community members to help spread information. If all they're going to sell is lubricants and feathers, I'm sure no one will object (except for the one person who voted for no lingerie on Sutter Street in my poll). You know, concerned citizens like myself don't get involved in community debates just to start trouble; we have concerns and opinions that we'd like addressed. Seems reasonable to me.
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Posted 15 October 2004 - 11:14 AM

I wonder if all this hub-bub would be happening if the person decided to open up shop at Broadstone or next to Kohl's.

How much of the concern here is because of the store content vs. the location of the store being in old town?

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 11:22 AM

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I wonder if all this hub-bub would be happening if the person decided to open up shop at Broadstone or next to Kohl's.

How much of the concern here is because of the store content vs. the location of the store being in old town?

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Interesting question. I know I'd be much less likely to get involved if it was in some strip mall somewhere, but I'd really like to see Sutter Street revived with stores my family likes to visit... it really is an asset to our community that I think should be preserved and utilized carefully.
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Posted 15 October 2004 - 02:58 PM

"I don't have time to go talk to everyone opening a store in town, so I rely on other community members to help spread information."

AHA! Therein lies the problem! We are relying on the info we're getting from people who are opposed to this shop. I went there today, to find out for myself.

I had lunch at Hacienda (fajita chicken salad, which I'd rate a 5), and walked down to check out Ms. Teaz, the new lingerie shop afterward.

I was pleased to meet meet some members of the Dufour family; Sam, his wife Misty, and mother Judy. They were busy painting and sprucing up their new store.

Sam proudly and eagerly showed me the floor plan and gave me a tour.

The Dufour's are opening (actually already opened) a shop specializing in high end lingerie and corsets, also selling shoes and jewelry. They will have a room in the back, where they will sell novelty items, such as lotions, games, and toys. I guess I could best compare it to a miniature version of Evangeline's, without the Halloween costumes.

They are keeping the victorian feel of the space, bringing in Judy's English antique armoires and displays, along with conventional displays from Nordstrom.

In the back of the store, there is a small room with a latching gate, which will be marked '18 and over'. Behind the gate will be a curtain. Inside will be the adult novelties and such.

Sam explained that he worked and saved his money, and recently left his job to open this store. He is a family guy, raising a 10 year old step-daughter, and had this dream of opening a store that would be successful, respected by the community, bring life back to Sutter Street, and make money, too.

He and his family have been working hard planning, painting, getting organized, and getting involved in the communtiy. He was welcomed by the Chamber of Commerce, and has a ribbon-cutting scheduled, I believe, for Nov. 4.

His target market is adult citizens of Folsom, El Dorado Hills and vicinity, along with tourists coming to Sutter Street.

You can feel his honesty and passion for this most American of dreams.

Imagine his shock when he comes home from a lingerie convention to find that there are people in the community up in arms about his opening, claiming that he'll be having be a dirty smut peddler, selling x-rated videos, having peep shows, and attracting perverts from far and wide.

I really feel for this family. Sam seems like a normal family guy, thought he was doing a good thing, has the support of his family, and thought he had the support of merchants and his community.

I think we need to give them a chance, and not condemn them before they even get their business going. Sam invites curious citizens (and customers) to come down and take a look. He'll be glad to show you everything he's ordered and give you a tour of the place.

I think we ought to be ashamed of ourselves if we continue to conduct a witch hunt and prevent an honest family from opening a legitimate business on Sutter Street.

As my screenname implies, my name is Steve and I am a dad. I have 2 daughters, ages 11 and 16 whom I love, educate, support and protect. I would not keep them from going in this shop to see what it's about.

Please give them a chance. If you don't want to buy what they sell, don't, but don't burn them at the stake, either. With a little luck, Ms. Teaz will become a trusted and respected business for years to come.

Sam, Misty, and Judy, if you're reading this, welcome to Folsom, and good luck.

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 03:10 PM

Adult Stores

Above is the link to the city code for adult stores. I haven't looked at it yet but I'm going to. I receieved my call back from the city and they said to look at chp. 5.21 and 17.24 Here is more solid info for everyone. I will read it soon!

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 03:12 PM

Thank you Steve.... finally, the voice of reason....

Sam will have plent of business, just look at the results of the Global Sex Survey and the U.S. results.

This isn't the '50s folks. A lot worse than what will be sold there is or is rapidly becoming mainstream. The survey is a good place to start the education, and quite frankly, I think people responded conservatively to much of it.

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 03:26 PM

Thanks for the good information, Steve. This is as I suspected - a nice place that happens to sell products some people think are "baaaad". I, for one, intend to do some Chistmas shopping there.

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 03:30 PM

There is so much information in the city codes but an earlier poster said it can't be open from 11pm-8am and it is in black and white along with everything else. So the drunks won't be wondering in late at night. For such a limited amount of adult items I hardly think anyone will travel to Folsom. From what Steve says it hardly sounds like it'll be hard core X-rated items. It sounds like just a few "extras" they're including. Plus, if someone sees a high end lingerie shop and the prices are high then not many would even make it to the back to know it is there. It sounds like it might even be more expensive then Victoria's Secret and they're not cheap!

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 03:49 PM

Did any of you watch channel 14 on cable today and listen to the comments about this shop?

Probabally not. To many people that talk a lot and don't really get out to find out what is going on.

Stevethedad, fine you went and talked to them.

According to what was presented at the city council meeting, they will be selling x rated films, leather thongs and whips and a lot of things that even the members of the city council asked the presenter to stop as they had heard enough.

The city council meeting tape will be played again tomorrow at 9 AM on metro channel 14.

Tune in an watch it so you can really be informed.



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Posted 15 October 2004 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE(camay2327 @ Oct 15 2004, 03:49 PM)
Did any of you watch channel 14 on cable today and listen to the comments about this shop?

Probabally not.  To many people that talk a lot and don't really get out to find out what is going on.

Stevethedad, fine you went and talked to them.

According to what was presented at the city council meeting, they will be selling x rated films, leather thongs and whips and a lot of things that even the members of the city council asked the presenter to stop as they had heard enough.

The city council meeting tape will be played again tomorrow at 9 AM on metro channel 14.

Tune in an watch it so you can really be informed.

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That presenter was not representing the store, and therefore, can not speak to what these people will be selling. Just because someone says it, doesn't make it true.

This happened while the owners were out of town at a convention, buying inventory for their legitimate business, and unable to defend themselves.

Doesn't sound like a very honorable way to confront a situation.

As far as thongs are concerned, Mervyn's, Target and Walmart sell them. Does leather make them more dangerous to society?

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 04:12 PM

It probabally feels better for you that way....


I have the tape, I recorded it this morning. The person presenting and others went and talked for the person that holds the lease.

He also flew up, I believe, to Oregon and looked at one of the places that they are going to have their place look like, or similar.

I can only feel that if they have an x-rated room in the back, less than 25% of the store, that it will draw in people that we do not want in old Folsom. I can see people out front now with their bottle in their bag.

It could happen!!!!


Let's wait and see....
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Posted 15 October 2004 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE(camay2327 @ Oct 15 2004, 04:12 PM)
I can only feel that if they have an x-rated room in the back, less than 25% of the store, that it will draw in people that we do not want in old Folsom. I can see people out front now with their bottle in their bag.

It could happen!!!!
Let's wait and see....

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Too late! I already live here! Yee-ha! Whips, chains, and toys galore!!! tongue.gif

Newsflash: There's going to be a show on American sex lives in 6 days on either PrimeTime or 20/20 - we'll find out all about the norms..... watch and lets discuss!

What part of the stats below aren't understood? Let me guess, we think these stats are elsewhere like S.F., L.A. and N.Y.? Probably closer to 100% there....

Oh let me guess... noone has looked at the survey.... tongue.gif

56% of Americans watch pornography with their partners.

Almost half (49%) of those aged 35-44 have used pornography to add extra spice to their sex lives compared to

40% of 21-24 year olds and
32% of 25-34 year olds

It's the old geezers (same ones complaining) in Folsom that are doing it!

More than a third (35%) watch pornography with their partner, 22% indulge in blindfolds or handcuffs and one in five (20%) uses sex toys.
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Posted 16 October 2004 - 09:05 AM

I Love PORN and can't wait to buy all the very dirtiest PORN from the new shop! I'm going to bring all my BAD SEAD friends with me to ruin downtown. We are going to turn downtown Folsom into a hot spot for perverts and porn addicts. All because of the new shop!!!
And what's next you ask? well, if this new shop is ok then it's only a matter of time before (censored) houses are on every courner.

You conservative old farts need to get a life. Porn/sex is part of our society and every society on the planet. Open your eyes.



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Posted 16 October 2004 - 09:22 AM

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I Love PORN and can't wait to buy all the very dirtiest PORN from the new shop!  I'm going to bring all my BAD SEAD friends with me to ruin downtown.  We are going to turn downtown Folsom into a hot spot for perverts and porn addicts.  All because of the new shop!!!
And what's next you ask?  well, if this new shop is ok then it's only a matter of time before (censored) houses are on every courner. 

You conservative old farts need to get a life.  Porn/sex is part of our society and every society on the planet.  Open your eyes.

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It sounds like you are just trying to get a rise out of some forum members without lending constructive comment to whether or not this lingerie shop is a welcome addition to Sutter St. rolleyes.gif

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Posted 16 October 2004 - 09:52 AM

i think you've misted my point and hit it right on the head. Being more serious, what really concerns me is the guy who gave the presentation at city hall. where did he get his information? I feel like he was spitting out facts that he couldn't back up. He knew more scary facts about the sex industry than any normal person should. I think we should be afraid of people like him.




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