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[sckfc]

The sad part is, even with them hurting and giving up as much as they did, they are still light years ahead of FCUSD when it comes to working conditions. Even if they give more up, the student and working conditions are STILL drastically better. FCUSD seems to bank on Elk Grove in bad times, but don't want to acknowledge them in good times. This is the double speak that has been mentioned in this topic several times. When was the last time K had 24 students or 4-6 had 28 students in FCUSD...and this is after they have reached their TA! My point is that just listing districts throughout the state, to show why FCUSD needs more furlough days, without providing specific information is misleading and unfair. Put comparisons down for the public and teachers to see, so that a detailed agruement one way or the other can be made. Don't we instruct our students to gather the facts before writing a persuasive essay?

I was told, back in September, that our district is underfunded compared to surrounding districts. The reason for this is that the Federal Government used to subsidize our revenue limit by around $2000 per student while Mather Air Force Base was active. Once that base was closed, we lost that funding and the state of California never made up the difference. JoAnne and Teresa, please correct this if I got the amount wrong, but I remember hearding that it was about $2000 per pupil that we lost. How does our revenue limit compare to Elk Grove, San Juan and Sac City? It is very difficult to find a list of school revenue limits in this state.

[mac_convert]

If that is the case our school district should have taken the state to court long ago to get re-designated. I imagine working conditions in FCUSD are similar to Elk Grove, but salary and benefits are NOT! Both have old and new schools and not all schools in either district are in "bad" areas of town!

I was told, back in September, that our district is underfunded compared to surrounding districts. The reason for this is that the Federal Government used to subsidize our revenue limit by around $2000 per student while Mather Air Force Base was active. Once that base was closed, we lost that funding and the state of California never made up the difference. JoAnne and Teresa, please correct this if I got the amount wrong, but I remember hearding that it was about $2000 per pupil that we lost. How does our revenue limit compare to Elk Grove, San Juan and Sac City? It is very difficult to find a list of school revenue limits in this state.

[tessieca]

Sooner: Read prior post. Board is not raising EGUSD as a direct comparison. That is being done by teachers and community members.

I was told, back in September, that our district is underfunded compared to surrounding districts. The reason for this is that the Federal Government used to subsidize our revenue limit by around $2000 per student while Mather Air Force Base was active. Once that base was closed, we lost that funding and the state of California never made up the difference. JoAnne and Teresa, please correct this if I got the amount wrong, but I remember hearding that it was about $2000 per pupil that we lost. How does our revenue limit compare to Elk Grove, San Juan and Sac City? It is very difficult to find a list of school revenue limits in this state.

It is called PL84 dollars (Public Law 84). McLellan escaped the loss of federal funding through special legislation, but Mather was closed before that. I'm not sure if the $2,000 per student is accurate, but the state is only required to make it up in small steps (equalization payments that are not funded in tough years).

If that is the case our school district should have taken the state to court long ago to get re-designated.

See Serrano v. Priest. Equalization is required; however, the state doesn't have to do it in one fell swoop, and the middle line is the goal so some districts will always stay ahead of the game...legally. FCUSD happens to be below the average for the county, but equalization is only funded in small amounts and in years in which the state has the money for it. Another thing district is "entitled" to, but doesn't receive.

[aubie84alum]

[quote name='tessieca' date='Jun 7 2010, 05:04 PM' post='387185']
That was not a "ha, ha" as in "gotcha." It was more of an LOL that people were saying the COLA wouldn't be shared with teachers. Not laughing at the teachers. You're too sensitive, Aubie.


I'm not being sensitive. Perhaps, you're being unclear.

No, they can't really. They still must pay into the union whether they are members or not, just at a lower rate.


The pay can be donated to a charity. It does not have to go to the union. However, I believe it is still the same percentage of pay.

[JoAnne Reinking]

Budget central has been updated
http://www.fcusd.org...une16update.pdf

[aubie84alum]

Budget central has been updated
http://www.fcusd.org...une16update.pdf

Once again, the superintendent compares Elk Grove union to FCEA....Only for their convenience, without any comparison of size, past practice, etc. When is that going to stop JoAnne?

"Districts in the Sacramento area and around the state reduced their work year by as many as nine days (Elk Grove), and/or rolled back salaries and benefits much more than the 1.62% reduction agreed to by FCEA."

[JoAnne Reinking]

Once again, the superintendent compares Elk Grove union to FCEA....Only for their convenience, without any comparison of size, past practice, etc. When is that going to stop JoAnne?

"Districts in the Sacramento area and around the state reduced their work year by as many as nine days (Elk Grove), and/or rolled back salaries and benefits much more than the 1.62% reduction agreed to by FCEA."

Hopefully now. My two cents ~ Time to move forward with hope our new leadership, both union and district, will work in a mutual respectful partnership , with the best interest of our students foremost. Unfortunately, it looks like we'll be going down this road again next year, and assuming we use one time funds to restore services for this year, we'll have less options.