when you did down you have to ask why obama calls himself black when he is half white. I guess the answer might be to ask old zimmerman what his choice is in this matter.
the only winners I see so far are the gun stores, cause folks are upping their ammunition supplies, until we see how this is going to come out
Old Soldier, when I first heard the reports, the media claimed that it was a white man who killed a black kid. Later on, when his father spoke, I learned that his mother was hispanic. So, I believe the media was first to make the claim.
The debate over racial identity among bi-racial or multi-racial individuals has been going on for centuries, from Europe to Africa and Asia. In the US, many states had the 'one drop' rule (in some states, the 1/64th rule), which meant that if a person had any African ancestry at all, they must be legally classified as black. No choice. One drop equals black. The question is, when one is half one race and half another, where do they identify. Many people of multi-racial background can attest to being considered too black for some and not black enough for others. It comes with the territory. My daughters are of African, Italian, Mexican, French, Native American and Scotch-Irish descent, and probably even more.
I knew a guy who was half-Japanese and half-Korean. He was ostracized and discriminated against by both side.
I'd guess that Mr. Zimmerman caught his share of grief from both hispanics and whites for his mixed heritage.
Sadly, it comes with the territory.
As for the President, can you imagine Obama calling himself 'white'? What a stir that would cause from whites and blacks alike. Instead, Obama has repeatedly spoken of being proud of his mixed-race heritage, both the white and black.
Dear Mr. Heard, I’m sure we’d all like to believe we live in a safe community, here in Folsom.
But it hasn’t been so long ago that a black man from out of town, brutally raped and killed a elderly white woman by the name of Alice Murphy. Can you tell me why he didn’t attack a black woman instead? Of course you can’t. But, many here may think it was because she was white that he chose her. To me that is a hate crime, but we all know hate crimes only happen to those who are not white, don’t we?
Numbers and the rate of incidents against one race or another can be searched and brought forth for the sake of argument. Would you like to go there? White woman are killed and raped more by minorities, than any other race in this nation, just for your information. Why do you suppose that is? Shall we compare the cases in the last year?
I’m sure for the sake of business, it would be nice to play this down and make people belive that here in Folsom, we need not worry about our safety. Alice certainly didn’t worry and probably believed what someone told her about our, oh so safe community.
Had she been more informed, I’m sure she would have left some food outside for her cat and double locked her door, the night she was viciously attacked.
I think there is entirely too much racial hate in all races and was ashamed I placed that racist web site up. I tried to do the right thing by asking it be taken down and admitting my mistake, but obviously, you would have liked for me to not post anything about the Trayvon/Zimmerman incident at all.
And, obviously, you now want to rub my nose in it, because your dislike for me on this board is well known.
Maxine, look at the stats. Folsom has one of the lowest crime rates in Northern California, so yes, it is a relatively safe community. That's one of the reasons so many people want to live here
As for the predator that murdered the elderly woman in her home, I'm guessing that he chose his victim because she was vulnerable. As you and I have both stated, more blacks are killed by other blacks than by whites, and that includes the killing of old ladies. Even if he had chosen her because of race, and there's been no evidence I've read that such was the case, it does not mean that it's open season on white folks.
As for hate crimes, you are incorrect. Race is a protected class, and all races are included. It's not just white against a minority. Whites can be victims of hate crimes as well.
I don't know what websites you're choosing to support your beliefs, but according to the FBI, which was charged with keeping statistics on hate crimes 1990, during the Bush Administration, when race was identified as the bias in hate crimes, 69.8 percent were motivated by anti-black bias and 18.2 percent stemmed from anti-white bias.
What stats were you referring to?
Again, as I said earlier, it really is pointless to run the numbers in an effort to justify our biases. It isn't a contest and I don't think that having an equal number of black and white victims will make anyone happy.
I responded to your first remarks then stepped away as you dug deeper, making more and more outlandish and offensive statements.
It has little to do with whether I like you or not. It is about the truth, and what you are claiming just isn't true.
'The Dude' and Robert Giacometti are examples of people with whom I've had differences of opinion to the point of heated discussions, and we've called each other out on several occasions and vice-versa. It's not because I don't like them (in fact, I've had beers watched ball games with both of them on a number of occasions). It's because I believed they were wrong and I said so.
So, though you and I are unlikely to ever have a beer summit, I disagree with you based on the facts.
