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[ducky]

The city doesn't have anything to do with where schools are built. They were simply smart enough to combine efforts with the district to add another branch to their library system. It's a more efficient use of tax dollars, and leverages both money and library services.

Sorry, Tess. Bad wording on my part. I meant the possibility of locating the library site on the land Robert is talking about next to the current high school, not the pending plans at the new high school.

This really is a silly argument at this point because the library is built. Kerri did nothing wrong in sticking by her opinion on the location. The only reason it is being brought up is an attempt to somehow discredit Kerri.

What speaks volumes to me is Kerri has Gail Kipp's endorsement. Gail Kipp is a very intelligent woman and sharp as a tack and was a driving force behind the library. I don't think there is anyone who could pull the wool over her eyes.

I wouldn't know half of the things I do about the library process if it wasn't for her requests for library supporters to attend key council meetings regarding the library. I remember one particular occasion where the library commission had a consultant do a lot of hard work on a presentation on the building plans for the city hall fire station location. There was one council member they were not too happy with after that meeting who basically sent them back to the drawing board and I don't remember it being Kerri.

[Robert Giacometti]

Kerri did not have anything to do with the site selection process except to vote as a member of the Council on what the Library Commission recommended. I was Vice Chair of the Library Commission at the time and we were presented with a list of more than 20 possible sites prepared by City staff, some near Folsom HS including the subject property, and the City complex area (fire station) is what the Commission recommended. It was later changed to Farley Field. The property next to the HS did not even make the first cut because of some major flaws (do not recall, but can go back through my notes if necessary and time permitting). Individual council members did not have input into this property's early elimination from the selection process.

While Kerri and I did not agree with the final library proposal, we opposed it for different reasons. I did not delve into her reasons because I felt very strongly about my reasons. Once all was said and done, I swore I would support the final library project as the council saw fit and I do support the project as has been built under the direction of the current council. Where other councils had failed, this one, but most prominently Kerri, Steve, Eric, and Andy, was actually able to get a library worthy of this city built. For that, I applaud the four aforementioned members.

I too asked for the original list of all properties that was given to the comission and was given the list along with pictures of all the sites and the property we sold for $7.8 million was NOT on that list! My motives in asking for that list was to verify if the land next to the HS was on the list or not. There is a reason why that property was NOt on that list!

Some rainy day when there is no football on TV, dig out that information and you will see I am correct.

Those of you who are happy that we sold a $21 million dollar piece of property for $7.8 million, I'm sorry for wasting your time. After this election is over I'll try plan B...but if the citizens really don't care about what is going on, I'll join the Firefighters and Library staff in saying I tried and spend more time fishing.

[Steve Heard]

Those of you who are happy that we sold a $21 million dollar piece of property for $7.8 million, I'm sorry for wasting your time. After this election is over I'll try plan B...but if the citizens really don't care about what is going on, I'll join the Firefighters and Library staff in saying I tried and spend more time fishing.

Should we be extra mad when the developers build it out and reap many millions more? Should the guy who sold it for $21 million be extra mad, too?

I'd love to join you for fishing some day. Believe it or not, I haven't been once since I moved up here.

[Robert Giacometti]

Should we be extra mad when the developers build it out and reap many millions more? Should the guy who sold it for $21 million be extra mad, too?

I'd love to join you for fishing some day. Believe it or not, I haven't been once since I moved up here.

My frustration ( or at least one) is that why does the city of Folsom always seem to get the short end of the stick on these deals? IMHO, it seems like we give away our advantage all the time and seem to negotiate from the weaker position. it get's me P'OD!

We have parks not built because we don't have enough money, we need funding for cultural arts and senior facilities. We could have had another $13,000,000 relatively easy, but it seems we always get snookered.

So when anyone writes a letter saying the person who negoitiated this deal on behalf of the city, is perhaps the best city manager ever, it really frustrates me! If we were told we got the short end of the stick, at least I would have faith that people were being forthright.

This is why Steve Miklos has earned my vote, he acknowledged that we knew we weren't in compliance with the affordable housing and had chances to correct the problem, but didn't get it done. I don't have to like his answer or agree with him but at least he was honest!

Just to tie all this together.....I'm sure I lost most of you with this rant....the debacle with affordable housing caused us all kinds of hidden problems. The city agreed to a negoitiated settlement, to keep us the citizens from discovering they knowingly avoided enforcing compliance onto the developers when they had the opportunity, this resulted in the City rezoning all the land around the HS for affordable housing, basically eliminating the possibility of building the library there and ultimately selling the land at a discount to comply with our agreement to avoid the lawsuit, that would have exposed who didn't do their job!

Kerri is NOT responsible for all of this, but IMHO, she has spent a considerable amount of energy in protecting the possible exposure of who didn't do their job...again IMHO because of her friendship...rather than what was best for the City of Folsom.

Again, sorry for the extra long rambling, but I want everyone to understand exactly where I am coming from.

Steve, I would love to go fishing today, but I don't want to get my hair wet!

[camay2327]

Robert, you still have hair????

wow....




Oh, by the way

Have you all seen the many, many Michael Gordon
political signs that are posted illegally in Folsom. I
think it is time to get them taken down. There are way
to many of them. He has them posted all over the
place.

YES, illegal ones in the landscape and lighting areas of Folsom.

[folsom500]

Oh, by the way

Have you all seen the many, many Michael Gordon
political signs that are posted illegally in Folsom. I
think it is time to get them taken down. There are way
to many of them. He has them posted all over the
place.

YES, illegal ones in the landscape and lighting areas of Folsom.

Hmmm. I think he has been told more than once about this -- in fact I KNOW he has.... I even took a few of his down in Natomas station on the medians and told him about it during the social we had a few weeks ago and know that Barbara Leary has also communicated with him...and sure that others have as well..

How could anyone vote for an honest upright Folsom Council candidate when he cannot even be honest upright and law abiding- For him it is anything goes-- How would we ever trust him as one of our council persons--- Shame on him -- - for this ( and many other reasons) does NOT DESERVE our votes...

Cheers
F500

[zach5]

Have you all seen the many, many Michael Gordon
political signs that are posted illegally in Folsom. I
think it is time to get them taken down. There are way
to many of them. He has them posted all over the
place.

And what about all the Lungren signs, that someone was putting out one night a while ago on just about every streetcorner

[folsom500]

And what about all the Lungren signs, that someone was putting out one night a while ago on just about every streetcorner

True as well- In fact I think HIS people have taken down a number of Dursten Signs and put his in their place...

VOTE NO ON LUNGREN ....

Cheers
F500

[Sue]

the Folsom Police don't seem too upset about Gordons signs, I had a message on my phone that they are endorsing him. The location of signs, funny, I guess that's the most negative thing people can scrape up. He has my vote. Oh, I guess he can take them down on Wednesday, is that ok?

[gingerkid]

In my experience, Code Enforcement (not the police) are out during the entire pre-election weekend. They'll take down illegal signs all around town, including illegal realtor/open house signs. They simply pick them up, toss them in the back of a truck and take them away. When people pepper the L&L's with signs at the last minute, they're just hoping that people see their name before CE takes them away. In most cases, it's that old adage that any publicity is good publicity.

Yes for Lungren!!!!!!!!!

[Robert Giacometti]

Hmmm. I think he has been told more than once about this -- in fact I KNOW he has.... I even took a few of his down in Natomas station on the medians and told him about it during the social we had a few weeks ago and know that Barbara Leary has also communicated with him...and sure that others have as well..

How could anyone vote for an honest upright Folsom Council candidate when he cannot even be honest upright and law abiding- For him it is anything goes-- How would we ever trust him as one of our council persons--- Shame on him -- - for this ( and many other reasons) does NOT DESERVE our votes...

Cheers
F500

Too funny

Maybe he can blame it on an inexperienced campaign worker....it seems to have worked for someone else

This topic gives me more chuckles than any other around election time. Lets not focus on a persons inappropriate comments or inconsistent evolving explanations or the fact that when they are confronted with their inconsistencies, they just attack the messenger, instead just count their illegal signs.

I do agree it is a more scientific system!

Just out of curiosity, how many illegal signs could a candidate have out before you would consider them to be dishonest and law breaking and not worthy of your vote?

Have a good weekend!

[old soldier]

regarding this old sign flail...the real saddness is that not experience, positions on key issues, bakers by key groups like the firemen, police union and even the master gardners, PTA, and softball commissioners but the size, number and location of signs is the key factor in a folsom council election.

we are our own worse enemy

[Kerri Howell]

Old Soldier, you have hit the nail on the head, once again! It really does need to be about experience, knowledge of the issues and doing what is right for the majority of our residents. The whole sign thing drives me crazy during every campaign. There are illegal signs all over town. Any sign on public property is illegal and the maximum signage permitted on commercial property is 40 square feet. The big signs are the approximate equivalent of a 4 x 8 sheet of plywood (which is 32 sf). So, where ever you see more than one big sign, the ordinance is being broken.

With regard to endorsements, I have been endorsed by the Folsom Police Officers Association, the Folsom Firefighters, Local 39 (the largest represented group of City Empolyees, not covered by police and fire), Earl and Gail Kipp, Georgia Murray, Roberta Mc Glashen, Roger Niello, the Joint Veteran's Association in Folsom, Planning Commissioners, Park Commissioners (no, not Mr. Sheldon), Arts and Cultural Commissioners, current and former City employees and a long list of residents and others, including a Master Gardener whose home was on the Folsom Garden tour this past summer - I am pretty sure I am the only one with an endorsement from a Master Gardener! Thanks for bringing up the gardening crowd, as I might have forgotten about that one.

If you haven't already done so, vote on November 7.

If you have any questions for me, feel free to contact me. I would be happy to correct any of the misinformation that has been posted on here. You can reach me directly by email or phone.

kerri

[Redone]

VOTE NO ON LUNGREN ....

Cheers
F500

Cheers back and YES ON LUNGREN

[Robert Giacometti]

Old Soldier, you have hit the nail on the head, once again! It really does need to be about experience, knowledge of the issues and doing what is right for the majority of our residents. The whole sign thing drives me crazy during every campaign. There are illegal signs all over town. Any sign on public property is illegal and the maximum signage permitted on commercial property is 40 square feet. The big signs are the approximate equivalent of a 4 x 8 sheet of plywood (which is 32 sf). So, where ever you see more than one big sign, the ordinance is being broken.

With regard to endorsements, I have been endorsed by the Folsom Police Officers Association, the Folsom Firefighters, Local 39 (the largest represented group of City Empolyees, not covered by police and fire), Earl and Gail Kipp, Georgia Murray, Roberta Mc Glashen, Roger Niello, the Joint Veteran's Association in Folsom, Planning Commissioners, Park Commissioners (no, not Mr. Sheldon), Arts and Cultural Commissioners, current and former City employees and a long list of residents and others, including a Master Gardener whose home was on the Folsom Garden tour this past summer - I am pretty sure I am the only one with an endorsement from a Master Gardener! Thanks for bringing up the gardening crowd, as I might have forgotten about that one.

If you haven't already done so, vote on November 7.

If you have any questions for me, feel free to contact me. I would be happy to correct any of the misinformation that has been posted on here. You can reach me directly by email or phone.

kerri

Kerri,

Aren't you the one who told me I should get my own website to run my campaign for city council and that I should NOT be using a public forum to do so?

Just in case you didn't notice I'm NOT a candidate for city council!

Isn't it just a bit hypocritical of you to use a public forum to encourage people to contact you privately, to correct what you claim is misinformation on a public forum? Why not just correct the misinformation on the public forum or are you afraid of having your version challenged?

Also, maybe you could tell us when was that RFP, for the sale of the land next to the HS, sent out?