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[folsom500]

There are 51 people reading this topic right now- and surely some are adults with kids- -lets all get over to the park this evening and pay our respects to Andre... It only takes a minute and will last a lifetime...


cheers
F500

[nomoser]

There are 51 people reading this topic right now- and surely some are adults with kids- -lets all get over to the park this evening and pay our respects to Andre... It only takes a minute and will last a lifetime...
cheers
F500

Is there a specific time set aside for people to gather, or is it come whenever?

[notsure]

Can the moderator please delete all unwanted speculation? The parents are already going through a lot and I dont think we are helping them with all this speculation. Let us pray for God to give them strength, and be there for them. I understand we need answers, dont you think the family wants them too?

My intention is not to be rude, but I felt the only way to stop everyone from lashing at each other is delete the posts that are deemed not necessary.

[FolsomBarb]

Is there a specific time set aside for people to gather, or is it come whenever?

I actually just got off the phone with my son, and there's a bunch of people there right now.....so I guess it's kind of whenever.....

[folsom500]

Is there a specific time set aside for people to gather, or is it come whenever?

It is come whenever- I was also thinking of have the kids and adults go over in front of his parents house to show our support for them - Not sure when we will get there- but likely around 6:30-7

I will be the older guy with the white beard and brown hair ---

[nlove4ever]

Hmm, maybe you should re-read what I said. KKK in Placerville-yes, white power all over sac-yes. I do know my facts. Let me let you in on a little something. In the 90's I was beating these guys asses. Just as I would now if it was fact that this was related to this. So, yeah, the cats out of the bag, I was a S.H.A.R.P. and an ARA member. S.H.A.R.P. and ARA groups are skinhead groups but are in no way racists or bigots. My main concern is that if these WP groups are moving into my neighborhood then things might need to be done. The main point though is this poor kid is now gone... I only knew him through talking with him where he worked when I would get food. But his charisma touched me just in those couple instanses. DON'T call him a sinner. If you want to discuss this more PM me. Leave it off the board!

RIP

Thanks Chris V! I second that!

[jafount]

I read the parent interview in the other forum and wondered about the dad's bad comment about the folsom police. the dad is in law enforcement himself and for him to say about arrogance is not good. it would be bad if the officers at folsom prison got a negative thing going with our police

usually at least on tv the detectives run investigations and the patrol folks secure the scent but O don't know if our plolice department is big enough to have full time seasoned detectives

C/O's and line officers don't really consider themselves peers, nor do they generally work together.

Detectives DO run investigations, and I'm certain Folsom PD has full time detectives.

Patrol folks DO secure the scene, but only AFTER they determine there exists a circumstance that warrants an immediate response for detectives. In circumstances such as this, the situation is still a potential medical aid call wherein fire/medic is called to render said aid. All this must be done while still preserving, as best as possible, the crime scene. Any death, even natural appearing deaths should be treated as a potential crime scene until it can otherwise be determined.

[bcre]

Oh my you need to chill out. Your gitting all work up over a sinner. He left this earth and going somewhere else. Dont Bash me beacuse I speak the truth.

1. You cannot prove that God is real.
2. You are obviously not a true, pious Christian if you're so quick to judge.
3. I seriously doubt this kid killed himself playing the "choking" game. I'm a high school senior and I've never once seen it happen at any parties or happenings, nor have I heard of it happening (except on the news).

[Solartide]

Aye, he died in a stupid way if he indeed did participate in this "Choking Game" (Scrabble is more fun). However, we are all sinners. And nonetheless, I will go to heaven. Heaven and Hell depend not on the actions of man, for only if we have led a life of that can compare to Jesus Christ can we enter heaven by deeds. What determines heaven and Hell is faith. Read the Bible some more.

[realtor]

My sincere condolenses to the family. It's such a sad event to endure and I'm glad to see that the community in NS is embracing them. As for some of the posts...it's human nature to strike out and blame others and I wish I could delete those whose posts tend that way. I don't live in NS but my daughers are seniors at FHS and brought this up tonight at dinner...we had a very indepth discussion on the thought processes, reasoning and attitudes of all involved. They are stunned and reminded me of other tragic deaths this past year...basically this has been a terrible year for these kids. I'm of the mind that we need to stick our noses in ours and other teens business...not to keep them in line but to remind them that we're watching and we care. I can't help but think of the post a couple of weeks ago about the kids who were at Sheldon park in the enclosed area and how some of the parents were oblivious to them. One person told them to get out of the fenced area but others thought they looked menacing...they're just teenagers. Insecure, unsophisticated and bored to tears. We need to risk caring...I get in my kids face when they're disengaged, rude, indifferent. They don't like me but then I don't like them when they're that way but I care enough to bring it up. I'm not saying that this kids parents didn't care but I think we as a community need to express it more ernestly and not just when tragedy strikes.

[teresak]

Thank you and well said Brown. I would hope that the parents and family would know how much we feel for them. I did not know Andre but my husband worked with his father. I know some teens that were friends with him. This is just the sadest thing I could not begin to imagine how the parents are feeling. It was very brave of them to speak out yesterday. I just wish we could honor them as well as their son. They spoke out in part to stop all the speculation.

[Solartide]

Uh, what's Folsom's curfew? There seem to be random people wearing green shirts loitering around the park late at night.

[bcre]

Uh, what's Folsom's curfew? There seem to be random people wearing green shirts loitering around the park late at night.

Folsom kids have been wearing green in honor of his death.

[idunno]

All i'm going to say about my friend Andre is he's been shown an unbelievable amount of disrespect. He died. It's confusing and complicated as hell to figure out how or why he died. But he sure as hell would'nt want a bunch of old farts who didn't know him, gossip about his death on websites. I understand people feel sorry and just want to discuss things to clear stuff up, but in Folsom, stuff will never be cleared up. Every citizen, whether they say they do or not, is obsessed with drama.

I've been at the park for the last 2 and a half days and yes, the police (even after the autopsy) say it was an accidental death. Does anyone buy that? No. Do we have to right now? Yes. EVERYONE knows Andre would not kill himself, yet the first news stories out contained suicide was the cause of death. Extreme dishonor. THEN, second and more-heard news stories: autorotica. Everyone keeps hearing the word, and to sum it up in a crude way: getting your jollies off by causing yourself pain or doing something that could kill you and ending before it goes too far. That sounds like a perfect coverup for a story of a teenager in a tree. A teenager who has happy, had no enemies,.. and yet was tied up and strung up 15 feet up in a tree.

Andre Anderson did not do this to himself. That is all we know. The police and news say he did. The Folsom Police Department and News10 as well as CBS13 and KCRA3 all acted with ignorance, intentional invasion of privacy, disregard for people's emotions and feelings, and just plain rudeness on the day he died. The FPD as much as everyone says "they know that they are doing".. i will not say what i saw or heard when i was with them, all i will say is this:
Do NOT for a SECOND, think that the Folsom Police have it all under control. They should know that they are doing. They should know how to handle this situation. I won't say what they said or did to prove to evryone there that they messed up, i'm just going to say that they DID mess up, and bad.

I know all of this is getting all you people excited, so i'm not going to say "stop talking about it", because we all know this town is too ignorant. I love Folsom, as much as all the teenagers say it sucks, we still love it. But everyone needs to realize.. it ain't Pleasantville. Life stil happens in folsom. When you pass that big Welcome to Folsom sign? Drugs don't disappear. Rapes don't disappear. Murder doesn't disappear.

Rest in Paradise Andre, and i'm so, SO sorry that people have to be this low.

YOU DON"T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!

[idunno]

IF the truth is ever made public, which it might not, to protect the family and deceased, most of you will not believe it. These investigations are very sensitive and most of the information should not be made public. Some of you who have not done your research should not call the police and the media ignorant! I find it hard to believe that FARLEY is telling the entire truth about his conversation with the father. The Folsom Police reported that Andre was not lynched and his feet were not "bound" together......Mr. Anderson then came out and the first thing he said was that Andre's feet were not "bound"......the police did not lie....Mr. Anderson then said that Andre was hanging by a dog leash (the family dog leash) and his feet were tied by his shoe laces (he wasnt wearing shoes! ) So I guess this "murderer" got the family dog leash and Andres shoe laces from his house and walked him down to the park and hung him in the tree..UM NO!

If you are going to acuse people of ignorance and covering things up, without opening your mind and researching things.....shame on you!

Or maybe you were not as close a friend to Andre as you thought?