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[ChipShot]

Not angry...quite amused by you though and no thanks on the hugs...your insanity might rub off on me and these days I am trying to stay away from insane men!!!!

Wow, now I'm insane ?? Who knew ??

[Andrea V]

Wow, now I'm insane ?? Who knew ??

WE KNOW!!!

[LexHillsmom]

How do know the teacher? Were you a friend or relative or .....?

Interesting that you are calling her by her first name. Maybe that's what this is all about. If that is the case--I'm sorry for her loss--but I still don't think that sending kids to CYA for this is right. I'm not saying the boys shouldn't or don't deserve punishment but also wonder--why is there so much anger in your posts? Don't you think that whatever the judge does is gonna be nothing compared to what these two boys must live with-for the rest of their lives?

+1

And while I too am very sorry for her tragic loss I doubt, though I could be wrong, that a teacher of her caliber and a person dedicated to making a difference in the lives of children, would have any desire for vengence in the form of locking up these kids in the CYA where their psyche and souls would be scarred for life. Not a chance. Maybe ChipShot should think about what she would probably want and not himself.

[ChipShot]

give me 10 other facts that you know about the case.

Don't need 10, here's 2:

1. Kids racing,

2. Susan killed by kids racing.

Game over. CYA, here they come. Glad I could help.

Doug...

[Andrea V]

+1

And while I too am very sorry for her tragic loss I doubt, though I could be wrong, that a teacher of her caliber and a person dedicated to making a difference in the lives of children, would have any desire for vengence in the form of locking up these kids in the CYA where their psyche and souls would be scarred for life. Not a chance. Maybe ChipShot should think about what she would probably want and not himself.

+1

I don't think chippy can think like a real human... anyone who just jumps in and screams about everything.... JUST LOCK EM UP FOREVER!!!! can not think like a real human.

[doj_gal]

WE KNOW!!!

Agreed...P.S. Mr.SHot if you do have children please let someone else raise them...I fear they may revolt against you and use your semi-automatic weapon in order to end the madness!!! I fear for you and the pain you may cause!!!!

[Andrea V]

Don't need 10, here's 2:

1. Kids racing,

2. Susan killed by kids racing.

Game over. CYA, here they come. Glad I could help.

Doug...

There is that dang broken record again.....

[doj_gal]

I hope there are a few openings at the CYA, folks. Let's fill 'em up. The sooner the better. If kids insist on NOT behaving properly in society, well, we need to lock 'em up until they do. It's quite a simple concept, actually. It's called DISCIPLINE !!! Look it up.

Discipline is not locking someone in a box after they make a mistake...it comes before that...discipline/self control should be taught at a young age not everyone gets it however just because your parents did a diservice to you/those teens...doesn't mean we just give up and put them away forever!!!

[cw68]

Speeding on Iron Point, and in Folsom in general, is a major problem. People can use the argument that going with the flow of traffic is safer, but it's not because you are increasing the traffic speed along the corridor. How about we all stop using other people's actions as excuses and start taking care of our own actions? The speed limit's 45, go 45, regardless of whether or not kids/adults/old farts are doing 60+. There's a stop sign, you stop, regardless of how many others roll through it. etc.

As a society, we're slipping because we will not take full responsibility for our own actions. Not a single one of us can control another's actions, but we can take care of our. Quit your bitching, your complaining and your excuses. Do the right thing. Period.

[Steve Heard]

Folks

It's pretty simple. A life was taken as a result of street racing. We have punishments prescribed for those who take the lives of others. Regardless of how nice the boys were, or how promising their futures, they have to take their punishment like everyone else. They are no better or worse than anyone else, and they should be treated no better or worse than anyone else.

I feel for these kids as I would my own, because they made a terrible mistake, but the same could be said for everyone in jail.

They won't have the key thrown away. They'll do time and probation. Let them serve their punishment.

[Steve Heard]

Once again, I ask y'all to be civil here. We don't need to call each other crazy or anything else.

In the past, we've shut down topics which got out of hand. Shall we do it on this one?

[ChipShot]

Speeding on Iron Point, and in Folsom in general, is a major problem. People can use the argument that going with the flow of traffic is safer, but it's not because you are increasing the traffic speed along the corridor. How about we all stop using other people's actions as excuses and start taking care of our own actions? The speed limit's 45, go 45, regardless of whether or not kids/adults/old farts are doing 60+. There's a stop sign, you stop, regardless of how many others roll through it. etc.

As a society, we're slipping because we will not take full responsibility for our own actions. Not a single one of us can control another's actions, but we can take care of our. Quit your bitching, your complaining and your excuses. Do the right thing. Period.

Well-said, cw, but unfortunately we have some people here who are excuse experts of exponential proportions. They know who they are. And their attitude is on the dangerous side.

[Dave Burrell]

Speeding on Iron Point, and in Folsom in general, is a major problem. People can use the argument that going with the flow of traffic is safer, but it's not because you are increasing the traffic speed along the corridor. How about we all stop using other people's actions as excuses and start taking care of our own actions? The speed limit's 45, go 45, regardless of whether or not kids/adults/old farts are doing 60+. There's a stop sign, you stop, regardless of how many others roll through it. etc.

As a society, we're slipping because we will not take full responsibility for our own actions. Not a single one of us can control another's actions, but we can take care of our. Quit your bitching, your complaining and your excuses. Do the right thing. Period.

Well said!

I just rode 4000 miles on my motorcycle thru 8 states and I hate to say but of all the drivers I encountered.. the #1 worse, most ignorant jerky drivers were right here in our town

[Andrea V]

Once again, I ask y'all to be civil here. We don't need to call each other crazy or anything else.

In the past, we've shut down topics which got out of hand. Shall we do it on this one?

I think everyone was fine with the discussions until banana and chip started bullying people.

That is one thing I am amazed this forum allows...bullying! And then when someone else stands up and says HEY I WON'T LET YOU PICK ON PEOPLE! The mods get mad the the person who stands up.

I am confused why threats of shutting down a topic don't come until someone stands up for the people getting bullied and does not let the bully win!

[supermom]

Well-said, cw, but unfortunately we have some people here who are excuse experts of exponential proportions. They know who they are. And their attitude is on the dangerous side.

You still haven't replied to my post Chipshot. Are you a friend or relative of the deceased?

If you are that would help explain some of your angst. It would also help to change the dynamics of this conversation.

Did you know her well?