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[ducky]

Dude, you just hit it out of the park. In addition to the arrogance and stupidity you mention, there's maybe also egotism (real word?) at play here:

There was a rumor swirling, and I don't know if it's true, that they wanted the name "Folsom" in the bridge because, goodness, we wouldn't want Granite Bay to try to claim they had a part in building it, or any other surrounding community that uses the bridge for that matter. They wanted to make sure Folsom got all the credit (and by extension the City Council).

I hope I'm wrong about that, but I seem to recall that being a factor in the decision that was mentioned. Maybe someone in the know can set me straight if I'm remembering it incorrectly.

I think you're correct that they wanted "Folsom" in the name, which I understand. They didn't want the word "Dam" in the name because they also didn't want the Bureau of Reclamation to get credit. So I guess there was some ego involved there, because heaven knows Folsom Dam Bridge wouldn't have made as much sense as Folsom Lake Crossing.

[4thgenFolsomite]

Dude, you just hit it out of the park. In addition to the arrogance and stupidity you mention, there's maybe also egotism (real word?) at play here:

There was a rumor swirling, and I don't know if it's true, that they wanted the name "Folsom" in the bridge because, goodness, we wouldn't want Granite Bay to try to claim they had a part in building it, or any other surrounding community that uses the bridge for that matter. They wanted to make sure Folsom got all the credit (and by extension the City Council).

I hope I'm wrong about that, but I seem to recall that being a factor in the decision that was mentioned. Maybe someone in the know can set me straight if I'm remembering it incorrectly.

From an article in the Sacramento Union in August 2008

“However, with Folsom contributing a great deal financially to the project, Mayor Eric King thought it would be more fitting to pay homage to the town in the new bridge name.”

http://www.sacunion....articles/10270/

[Bill Z]

From an article in the Sacramento Union in August 2008

“However, with Folsom contributing a great deal financially to the project, Mayor Eric King thought it would be more fitting to pay homage to the town in the new bridge name.”

http://www.sacunion....articles/10270/

Great article, but if financial considerations are part of the naming, well, I believe Folsom is 3rd on the list financially. Feds paid the most, with the State coming in second, Folsom was a distant 3rd. Well, stadiums & freeways get renamed all the time, maybe someday in the future when Miklos and his cronies are gone from power, maybe a new city council will consider a re-naming of the bridge. Heck, it could be me, I've contemplated that after retiring, I might be interested in seeking local political office.

[Orangetj]

It is great that we can count on you to let us know when we don't meet your expectations. We will endeavor not to let you down in the future.

Thank you! That's all I ask.

[Kerri Howell]

Those who said that council members wanted Folsom in the name are correct - that statement was made by more than one council member. We are also a distant 3rd in terms of the funding - so you could effectively say that everyone in America contributed to the funding. I am thinking that many of you have had the same experience I have, when telling someone from outside the Sacramento area that you live in Folsom - most people have heard of us - the first comment being, where the prison is and the next comment referring to Johnny Cash. During the discussion at the council meeting, there was also a comment made that Folsom is not a prison town - my response to that statement was that, unless someone turned the clock back to 1873, we most certainly are a prison town. This would have generated national publicity and increased tourism, and the Cash family had committed to attending the ceremony and assisting us with media attention. Similar comments were made by most of the people who spoke at the meeting.

EDF is kind of right - some who believe that having a prison here is a bad thing, or somehow tarnishes our Wholesome Folsom image would prefer to pretend the prison is not really there - kind of like we can pretend that Emma's was not a brothel if we turn it into a school and move it to Natoma Street. I was thrilled to see that brought up in the Bee today. For those of you who have not been there, the History Museum is a great place to visit and they recently remodeled the bathroom, in a Johnny Cash theme. At least someone around here actually does have a sense of humor!

Kerri

[supermom]

I don't see it as a "snooty Bay Area" thing. It's a bridge. It's appropriately named. Yes, that little stretch of river is still considered part of Folsom Lake. It's weird, I know. I don't pretend to understand.

For the record, I voted for Johnny Cash bridge. I thought it might be cool. But when it was named something else I shrugged and said "no big deal." I just find it funny how invested some of you are in the naming of this thing. Dressing in black? Secret signals with Kerri? Cash look a likes? Maybe you'll change some minds, but I doubt it. I'm not so sure your multitudes of supporters are as great as you think. After all, it's just a stretch of road. As long as it gets people from A to B they don't really care what it's named. I doubt more than 5% of those that cross the "new bridge" know its proper name.

No--you are right.

Bay Areans are much worse....


Take for instance the way they changed the name of San Thomas Expressway----

To County Route G4----


http://en.wikipedia....omas_Expressway


I guess it is too political to acknowledge the rich history of Catholic Missions---in such a a dehumanized city area like the good ole' Bay area.


Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

[sty10k]

No--you are right.

Bay Areans are much worse....


Take for instance the way they changed the name of San Thomas Expressway----

To County Route G4----


http://en.wikipedia....omas_Expressway


I guess it is too political to acknowledge the rich history of Catholic Missions---in such a a dehumanized city area like the good ole' Bay area.


Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

What are you talking about?

Part of County Route G4 is the San Tomas Expressway. Another part of it is the Montague Expressway. Road signs along the route still show these names and will continue to show these names. The name G4 has existed as long as the route has been around, and the Letter-Number designation is simply a geographical marker denoting what county maintains the road (G for Santa Clara in this case). The name Sam Tomas was never "changed" to G4.

Ever driven on Sunrise Blvd? You've driven on CR E2. Hazel? CR E3.

[Warren G]

What are you talking about?

Part of County Route G4 is the San Tomas Expressway. Another part of it is the Montague Expressway. Road signs along the route still show these names and will continue to show these names.

San Tomas was signed as such when I drove on it 5 days ago. Interesting thing, it has a designated carpool lane for the far right lane.

[4thgenFolsomite]

For those of you who have not been there, the History Museum is a great place to visit and they recently remodeled the bathroom, in a Johnny Cash theme. At least someone around here actually does have a sense of humor!

Kerri

I have to ask, though, Kerri. What do you think Roseanne Cash and the rest of the family would feel about the bathroom of the museum being dedicated as the Johnny Cash room? I'm worried that might be adding insult to injury.

[EDF]

What are you talking about?

Part of County Route G4 is the San Tomas Expressway. Another part of it is the Montague Expressway. Road signs along the route still show these names and will continue to show these names. The name G4 has existed as long as the route has been around, and the Letter-Number designation is simply a geographical marker denoting what county maintains the road (G for Santa Clara in this case). The name Sam Tomas was never "changed" to G4.

Ever driven on Sunrise Blvd? You've driven on CR E2. Hazel? CR E3.

Funny I lived in that area for almost 20 years and never noticed the "G-4" but if you told me San Thomas Expressway...? I'd know where you were talking about...

[supermom]

I'm just playing---


Anyway, what in the heck is the big deal?

A bridge is a bridge.

I always thought a crossing was relatively close to the soil--like say a 5 foot height---but, whatever, the bridge is about 200 feet high? or was it 200 meters longs? Whatever, I'll never refer to it as a crossing. Just chalk it up to another "generational" kind of thing. The way I see it, it'll take a generation to get used to calling it a crossing.

As for San Tomas---the reason I think it ironic that the maps have it labeled G4---is that (even though I do understand short names or even abbreviations are used on certain types of maps) I think of all the other "roads" in California that have dual names.

Hwy 101. A large portion of that used to be "El Camino Real".

Etc......

[webuser]

They probably call it Folsom Lake Crossing because it lets you cross from one side of Folsom to another and is in close vicinity to Folsom Lake.

[mylo]

They probably call it Folsom Lake Crossing because it lets you cross from one side of Folsom to another and is in close vicinity to Folsom Lake.

"Folsom Crossing by the Lake" would be acceptable English. Folsom Lake is in itself a noun, which makes Folsom Lake Crossing the thing that crosses Folsom Lake. You might aswell call it Sacramento County Lake Crossing, because at least there isn't a "Lake Sacramento County"

[webuser]

"Folsom Crossing by the Lake" would be acceptable English. Folsom Lake is in itself a noun, which makes Folsom Lake Crossing the thing that crosses Folsom Lake. You might aswell call it Sacramento County Lake Crossing, because at least there isn't a "Lake Sacramento County"

A structure crossing one side of Folsom to the other and named after "Folsom Lake" due to being in close proximity to, paying homage to, in honor of or recognizing the nearby lake named Folsom Lake.
You can read many things into it.

[MrsTuffPaws]

I still refer to it as Carl, as suggested in one of the earlier "Name that Bridge" threads.