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[Steve Heard]

I just heard on channel 10 that California may run out of water next year.

 

Do you think it is time to put a ban on building?

 

For the State or Folsom?

[4thgenFolsomite]

 

For the State or Folsom?

that's the conundrum, isn't it?  if you stop all new development, you grind the economy to a halt.  something has got to give here.  maybe no greenfield construction?

[camay2327]

 

For the State or Folsom?

State wide would be good.

[maestro]

I just heard on channel 10 that California may run out of water next year.

 

Do you think it is time to put a ban on building?

 

NASA JPL Scientist Famiglietti wrote the state may imminently run out of survival water, and rationing is essential.   He and LA Times asked why hasn't the governor declared water rationing.      Our gov is not helpful in this drought.   

 

Reasonable people agree a housing construction ban (especially single family detached housing) must occur.     No one wants to talk about it.  But no one is talking about the communities that are now gathering at water trucks to get their daily bucket of water to carry home.    

 

Envision your life without the water in the tap, or water to flush the toilet and shower.     ....

 

 

Folsom Reservoir is dropping, and now there is a black bloom appearing.

 

[ducky]

There was an article in The Folsom Telegraph today about S50 and the city aiming for controlled growth, infrastructure.

 

Here is an excerpt that was at the end of the article:

 

"Availability of water, particularly in drought years, is of concern for south of 50, but Folsom believes it will have that covered.  The city's water customers lowered its annual water consumption by more than 21 percent in 2014, among the highest rates of reductions in California."

 

"Miller said water will be supplied south of 50 through continued conservation and new sources from rivers, lakes and underground, plus the city's leak detection program."

 

"Combined with agreements to buy water from water purveyors, 'we'll have the majority of what we need to serve south of 50,' Miller said."

 

The first paragraph is something most of us have heard before.  The last two is news to me.  What other lakes, rivers, and underground can water come from to serve south of 50?

[supermom]

pipelining it in. prolly from the rice fields

[ducky]

pipelining it in. prolly from the rice fields

I thought that idea was dumped because of cost.

[Robert Giacometti]

JC,

 

You're the one who came out with your inflammatory question/comments directed at people who are concerned about what they have seen and have been promised regarding growth, over the last 20 years. If you had taken the time to ask and then understand what people are so upset about, I don't think you would have posted what you did.

 

Most people probably moved to Folsom as they were attracted to the quality of life they perceived existed here. Over time, many of these people are seeing the erosion of that quality of life and are asking questions why is this happening? The answer is simple, its growth occurring without growth paying for its impacts, Since this collective Council wont do anything about it ( in cases are enabling growth and covering up what they are doing), people are recognizing that the only other alternative is to stop growth.

[camay2327]

JC,

 

You're the one who came out with your inflammatory question/comments directed at people who are concerned about what they have seen and have been promised regarding growth, over the last 20 years. If you had taken the time to ask and then understand what people are so upset about, I don't think you would have posted what you did.

 

Most people probably moved to Folsom as they were attracted to the quality of life they perceived existed here. Over time, many of these people are seeing the erosion of that quality of life and are asking questions why is this happening? The answer is simple, its growth occurring without growth paying for its impacts, Since this collective Council wont do anything about it ( in cases are enabling growth and covering up what they are doing), people are recognizing that the only other alternative is to stop growth.

And with the problem Folsom/California is having with Water you would think the our Folsom City Council and the State of California would put a moratorium on building for a year or two,.

[maestro]

Was the Telegraph "quality control" governs Folsom expansion south of 50   just tongue-in-cheek?      Rancho Cordova, Roseville and Elk Grove have excellent engineering employees who put their License seals on all development and Public Works projects.     Their boards also listen to citizens;  unlike ours, which retaliates against critics.

 

WATER?     There is no city engineer certifying S50 has water.     Reclamation has refused all water requests from Folsom, and totally rejected the "S50 EIR" document as worthless.     As for the rice farm water, look for changes to happen with that public water.    The private person who believes he owns public water is facing surprises on that score.

 

 

Is there water for that front page-advertised luxury single family housing?

 

Oh great City Engineer Krahn, the law requires you to certify there is water, infrastructure, sewer, acceptable Agreement for development.      So how about finally releasing your Certified City Engineer Approved plans, documents, and blueprints....

 

 

 

 

[Homerunner]

It's always baffled me why the city has never planned for recycled water.  Those purple pipes are invaluable for master planned communities and golf courses whether for grey water or with additional investment direct potable use.  There should be no further development plans without it.

[caligirlz]

What's black bloom?

Folsom Reservoir is dropping, and now there is a black bloom appearing.

 

 

[maestro]

What's black bloom?

 

 

I wish I could answer that question.      We took samples and asked Reclamation engineer to do the same.     The black stuff sticks to everything:   cloths, dog fur, sticks, sand.     It would not wash off, and it seemed sort of oily.      One person suggested the stuff is sooty residue from the huge fire on the American River last year.     

 

But what explains the stickiness and clinging qualities?     It is still visible at the reservoir, but because the water is going down, it is not on dry land.     Still sticky stuff.      Sorry to be so slow to answer -- hoped Reclamation would know.

[maestro]

Since this topic is about water supply, here's a tidbit.       I think the state needs a building moratorium until the water shortages are better understood.       The city of Folsom is adding more and more houses everywhere it can -- using approvals issued in 1991-1993.       Elliott is developing an entire subdivision next to the El Dorado County line.    City says it was based upon a "special plan dated 1992."   

 

City also rezoned and approved the Harvest subdivision of the historic Broder Ranch and Olive Grove;    rezoned from "agricultural reserve" directly to "planned development" for a gated, walled community of "executive houses."       

 

Army Corps of Engineers wrote me there is NO APPLICATION on file, and no approvals for this Harvest construction on waters or disturbing waters of the U.S.      

 

Can you believe someone bought 50 spectacular historic acres in 2010 for $210,000?     

 

POINT IS:     where's the water supposed to come from during this drought and why are houses still planned as if water exists for them?

 

 

 

[supermom]

What's black bloom?

http://www.newscient...ml#.VS7UF13F-2U