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#196 bordercolliefan

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 09:58 AM

It is unbelievable.

CDC's first question should have been: Who had contact with Duncan, his bodily fluids/waste, or any lab sample?

Second question (to each of those individuals): Where are you planning to be for the next 3 weeks?

How hard is that??? CDC "monitoring" is a joke.

There was something in the New England Journal of Medicine about some people being infected Ebola but with no symptoms.  I wonder if those with asymptomatic infection would have the same antibodies as survivors and that would open up more donors if transfusions did indeed help.  They should be testing those in the apartment with Mr. Duncan to see if that's why they aren't getting sick.


Ok, I nominate Ducky as Ebola Czar. What a good idea... and one we haven't heard from any of the "officials" who promise to keep us safe...

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 10:31 AM

We need more of THIS! From a passenger who was on one of the flights that the (I think selfish) nurse was on, he sat within three feet of her:

"If we want to ensure this doesnt happen to more people, then I say we band together as a country and take responsibility. I dont want to scare people. I dont want to start a frenzy. I want to be solution oriented. I just want this to stop. To do that, its going to take every single person doing their part.

At this point, my part is going to be isolating myself. But ask yourself, what is your part? I do NOT want you going through this! I still havent been contacted further by the CDC and Im not very confident in their abilities.

Whether its private organizations or the government, everyone that has come in contact with someone that has Ebola should be quarantined. No questions. As a country this should be easy to raise enough money and find the manpower to provide for people that have possibly been infected."

Bravo Axl Goode.

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 10:40 AM

It is unbelievable.

CDC's first question should have been: Who had contact with Duncan, his bodily fluids/waste, or any lab sample?

Second question (to each of those individuals): Where are you planning to be for the next 3 weeks?

How hard is that??? CDC "monitoring" is a joke.


Ok, I nominate Ducky as Ebola Czar. What a good idea... and one we haven't heard from any of the "officials" who promise to keep us safe...

 

Thank you for the nomination, but I sincerely doubt, and hope, I'm not the first to think of that possibility.



#199 nomad

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 11:14 AM

Oh it gets better now:

 

Just out from the CDC - 

The maximum recorded persistence of Ebola virus RNA in the blood and other body fluids of convalescent EVD patients varies by fluid type. Across combined studies (each study did not examine the exact same fluid types at the same time points), Ebola virus RNA has been detected up to 101 days after symptom onset in semen, 33 days from vaginal swabs, 29 days from rectal, 23 days from urine, 22 days from conjunctival swabs, 21 days in blood, 15 days in breast milk, eight days in saliva, and six days on skin

http://www.cdc.gov/v...ansmission.html



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Posted 17 October 2014 - 12:56 PM

Truly and sincerely: my part in this is to survive. 

 

If that meant getting on a plane filled with rich Americans that can afford international flights, land at one of their largest cities and walk into one of their busiest hospitals and tell them im sick- I would do it. 

 

Selfish? No. Inborn resolution. Bred or instilled instinct. Whatever you want to call it.  I will survive.

 

Hey if that forces those rich Americans to find a cure so that more of us poor people in a pidly little country thousands of miles away can survive- then just call me an activist for life. 

 

Right?

 

So who's not doing their part now?

lol



so if you survive- dont kiss anyone for 30 or so days, dont have sex gor nearly 6 months,,,,

 

yeah right....

ha ha hahaaa

 

 

Just call this an STD.

 

No ones gonnna not have sex for that long... ha ha haaaa



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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:02 PM

And the circus continues with Obama as the Head Master. First the CDC SWAT team has ultimate power and now this?? WTF!!!!

 

http://www.washingto...article/2554956

 

Now the title of this post really makes sense no?



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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:17 PM

And the circus continues with Obama as the Head Master. First the CDC SWAT team has ultimate power and now this?? WTF!!!!

 

http://www.washingto...article/2554956

 

Now the title of this post really makes sense no?

 

It's ok, Obama is a CDC expert.

 

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 01:21 PM

I see armed protests happening in the near future



#204 bordercolliefan

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 02:31 PM

And the circus continues with Obama as the Head Master. First the CDC SWAT team has ultimate power and now this?? WTF!!!!
 
http://www.washingto...article/2554956


Ok, that is an example of propaganda disguised as journalism. Do you notice how the article cites no sources whatsoever (other than the mystery organization "Judicial Watch"?) I went to the Judicial Watch website and it repeats the same claim--again with no sources.

We are already dealing with people at the CDC who don't seem to be the sharpest tools in the shed. We shouldn't fall for every unsourced, far-fetched anonymous claim someone sticks on the internet.

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 06:55 AM

The SacBee is reporting that when it had its own Ebola scare two months ago, our local Kaiser was as unprepared as the Texas hospital:

http://www.sacbee.co...cle2967074.html

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Posted 18 October 2014 - 08:37 AM

Here's something a bit creepy. Read the description from this book written in 1999! Tinfoil hats anyone :)

 

http://www.amazon.co...k/dp/B008MKPLSQ



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Posted 18 October 2014 - 09:52 AM

Those of you that like big government, take a good look around. WHO is in charge? Who is making these idiotic decisions? Ineptitude abounds. For the love of God, does it take a rocket scientist to set up a system where people exposed to ebola are NOT permitted to fly on airplanes and go on cruises? I cannot think of a single better way to SPREAD the disease then to put exposed people in contact with people from diverse geographic backgrounds. Good grief. We have morons appointing morons to positions that have high demand for doing their job correctly. Political appointees have no business running agencies.

 

Even in the middle ages, they knew enough to quarantine people. 

 

When the Black Death spread through Italy in late 1347, some ports began turning away ships suspected of coming from infected areas. During March the following year, authorities in Venice became the first to formalise such protective actions against plague, closing the city’s waters to suspect vessels, and subjecting travellers and legitimate ships to 30 days’ isolation. This period was extended to 40 days some years later - hence the term quarantine

 

Isolation and quarantine are nothing new, and have been effective. However, the current liberal leadership at the CDC focuses not on the effectiveness of such measures, but on how they impact minorities (from the CDC):

 

"The use of segregation or isolation to separate persons suspected of being infected has frequently violated the liberty of outwardly healthy persons, most often from lower classes, and ethnic and marginalized minority groups have been stigmatized and have faced discrimination.

 

...these measures, by their nature, require vigilant attention to avoid causing prejudice and intolerance."

 

And the meme about mean old reps cutting spending is absolute crap. Check out this very impressive (and depressing) chart. Go to Dept of Health and Human Services, click on the "+" sign to open the agencies. Click on Centers for Disease Control.  http://www.downsizin...ent.org/charts/

What are they spending the money on? Do a quick google search for CDC wasteful spending.


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Posted 18 October 2014 - 10:02 AM

Keep in mind these are the people that just made a lawyer the ebola czar.

 

I may not be an Einstein, but even I can figure out that a scientist or at least someone with a remote clue about diseases should have been put in charge of this impending health disaster. But instead, Obama chose someone who's qualifications were: former chief of staff to bozo, I mean Biden. Former senior adviser to Obama and former chief of staff to Al Gore.  What great qualifications huh?

 

Our president continues to fail us on an epic scale.

 

 

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 10:13 AM

The SacBee is reporting that when it had its own Ebola scare two months ago, our local Kaiser was as unprepared as the Texas hospital:

http://www.sacbee.co...cle2967074.html

 

 

The problem i see with this Bee editorial is it ignores the continuing failure of letting people continue to travel from the outbreak area into our country, This absolutely guarantees ebola will be brought in to the country and spread here. Trying to rely on the E.R.'s to contain ebola or h1n1 bird flu is pure folly. Everyday tens of thousands of people show up at E.R.'s and clinics with what could described as ebola like symptons, It would be physically impossible to treat every single one of them with the proper ebola protocols. 



#210 Homer

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Posted 19 October 2014 - 10:26 AM

Here's something a bit creepy. Read the description from this book written in 1999! Tinfoil hats anyone :)

 

http://www.amazon.co...k/dp/B008MKPLSQ

 

 

I'm not really into tin foil hat stuff, However this is kind of creepy.






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