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#211 Robert Gary

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE(pet lover @ Oct 11 2008, 08:40 AM) View Post
If it turns out the crime stated is true then I think the same punishment should be given to him that a civilian would receive.


No way. It should at least be double what a civilian would get.

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE(davburr @ Oct 11 2008, 12:48 PM) View Post
way off subject... is it really just a misdemeanor if caught carrying a handgun? I thought something like that would be a much more serious offense(?)


In most areas of California you can walk right down the street with an exposed gun. Folsom has some tighter restrictions. However, the big deal with guns is hiding them. If you carry a gun on your person that is concealed you must have a special permit.
When I take my guns out I keep them in the trunk while in the city and unloaded. That's to keep the city happy. I also keep them locked until I get them to their destination but that's just me.
Of course if you are a felon the rules are different.

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 09:51 PM

QUOTE(davburr @ Oct 11 2008, 12:48 PM) View Post
way off subject... is it really just a misdemeanor if caught carrying a handgun? I thought something like that would be a much more serious offense(?)


Well...yes...if you're just "joe citizen" but if you're carrying and certain other conditions exist, it can be a felony.

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE(davburr @ Oct 11 2008, 12:48 PM) View Post
way off subject... is it really just a misdemeanor if caught carrying a handgun? I thought something like that would be a much more serious offense(?)
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BTW: Here is a great summary of California gun law. Remember though that many cities (including Folsom) have more restrictive rules. However, in California, outside the city, there is no prohibition for a non-felon to carry a non-concealed handgun. I suppose you would have to holster it or something.

http://www.nraila.or...awpdfs/CASL.pdf


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Posted 11 October 2008 - 10:12 PM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Oct 11 2008, 12:35 PM) View Post
All I have to say is "Thank God you're no longer carrying a badge and gun".

No offense.

The cop is guilty. 6 months of investigation.

Slam dunk.


What a colossal waste of resources.

He's not guilty until there is a trial and he's found guilty.
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Posted 12 October 2008 - 10:13 AM

QUOTE(Robert Gary @ Oct 11 2008, 10:04 PM) View Post
No way. It should at least be double what a civilian would get.

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#217 ChipShot

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 06:08 PM

Wow.

An EX-cop defending a soon-to-be EX-cop from serious charges of theft.

Only in America.

The busted officer should be thankful....some countries cut off a hand when you're busted for theft.

The guy deserves a desk job, if any job at all. smile.gif
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Posted 12 October 2008 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE(ChipShot @ Oct 12 2008, 07:08 PM) View Post
Wow.

An EX-cop defending a soon-to-be EX-cop from serious charges of theft.

Only in America.

The busted officer should be thankful....some countries cut off a hand when you're busted for theft.

The guy deserves a desk job, if any job at all. smile.gif

You're right, Chip. Only in America, where like you, I have freedom of expression to voice my opinion.

Chip, I'd like to meet you sometime. I'd be interested in talking with you. You seem like a guy I'd enjoy interacting with in person. Can I buy you a beer?
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Posted 12 October 2008 - 07:40 PM

was he in his uniform? cuz if he wasnt, the cop part doesnt need to be in there and it is a useless topic

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 10:01 PM

It sure doesn't look good for the officer. The city terminated the water dept. employee accused of stealing $40 of chlorine,so it seems they have set a precedent in regards to employee misconduct.This statement from Lt. Sterling in the water dept incident seems to sum it up . Although the dollar amount was small, the activity amounts to theft from taxpayers and violates the trust residents must have in public employees, said Lt. Sheldon Sterling, commander of the department's Criminal Investigation Bureau.

"We have an obligation to the community we serve, and to our fellow public servants, to weed out any public employees who don't deserve that trust," Sterling said.





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Posted 13 October 2008 - 07:45 AM

QUOTE(backflow @ Oct 12 2008, 11:01 PM) View Post
It sure doesn't look good for the officer. The city terminated the water dept. employee accused of stealing $40 of chlorine,so it seems they have set a precedent in regards to employee misconduct.This statement from Lt. Sterling in the water dept incident seems to sum it up . Although the dollar amount was small, the activity amounts to theft from taxpayers and violates the trust residents must have in public employees, said Lt. Sheldon Sterling, commander of the department's Criminal Investigation Bureau.

"We have an obligation to the community we serve, and to our fellow public servants, to weed out any public employees who don't deserve that trust," Sterling said.


I agree...it's bad. The difference is, entering a building with intent to steal is burglary-a felony.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 08:22 AM

Ya but since he had permission to enter the building it was not burglary,actually it was petty theft( a misdemeanor).But thats neither here nor there.My point is they both involved very little money.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 08:22 AM

QUOTE(jafount @ Oct 13 2008, 08:45 AM) View Post
I agree...it's bad. The difference is, entering a building with intent to steal is burglary-a felony.

But entering a parking lot with intent to steal isn't?
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 08:28 AM

QUOTE(backflow @ Oct 13 2008, 09:22 AM) View Post
Ya but since he had permission to enter the builbing it was not burglary,actually it was petty theft.But thats neither here or there.My point is they both involved very little money.


Wrong. Entering with intent to commit grand or petty larceny or any other felony is in itself a felony. Permission is not an element.

Mylo....no.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 08:32 AM

My understanding is the water dept employee was not charged with any felonies even though that was what he was arrested for.And that he was ultimatly charged with petty theft.




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