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#211 aztransplant

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 10:57 AM

Just when I think I've heard it all: "Moskelets told officers at the scene that she had been running errands with her kids and had been drinking vodka since about 3:00pm to ease menstrual pain."

That must have been some menstrual pain to warrant vodka, morphine, AND naproxin! Sheesh!!!

May 27, 2010 11:05 am US/Pacific Folsom Mom Arrested For DUI; Kids Hurt In Crash

FOLSOM, Calif. (CBS13) ― Police have arrested a mother for driving under the influence of drugs including morphine and willfull harm of a child when she was involved in a serious crash that injured her three children.

Police just arrested 46-year-old Susan Moskalets for the January crash split her Mercedes in half and injured all three of her children including on that suffered brain damage. Police say she tested positive for morphine, naproxen and alcohol, although her blood alcohol level was just below the legal limit.

The crash happened on East Bidwell in Folsom at around 9 p.m. on January 27th. Folsom Police say Moskelets was driving her Mercedes station wagon when she collided with a Dodge Durango in the intersection of East Bidwell and Bluestone Circle.

Moskelets told officers at the scene that she had been running errands with her kids and had been drinking vodka since about 3:00pm to ease menstrual pain. When Moskelets blood alcohol was taken at 10:35 pm, she tested at .07 bac.

Moskelets three kids were all taken to the hospital. Her 8-year-old son Jacob and 7-year-old daughter Victoria both had cuts to their face and forehead. Her 10-year-old son Mikhail suffered brain damage. He has not fully recovered and his prognosis is uncertain.

Moskelets is being held in the Sacramento County Main Jail on $100,000 bail.


http://cbs13.com/loc....2.1718979.html

#212 chris v

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 12:21 PM

She still deserves to die...

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 12:27 PM

More from News10:

http://www.news10.ne...r...316&catid=2


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Posted 27 May 2010 - 12:28 PM

QUOTE (chris v @ May 27 2010, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She still deserves to die...

Nope. She deserves the brain damage she gave to her son.

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 01:18 PM

I am glad the PD has finally charged her.. I feel for her son with the brain damage and hope she pays for it in a appropriate way... 10 years would not be enough ... I Hope that the willfull harm of a child will carry a very stiff penalty

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#216 Bill Z

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 07:44 AM

QUOTE (stacycam @ May 27 2010, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope. She deserves the brain damage she gave to her son.

I tend to agree with you. If her son lives, she doesn't deserve the death sentence, but she does deserve a nice long prison sentence. I also object to the wording of the news article "willful harm to a child". We all know she didn't willfully harm her child. She did willfully make bad decisions that led to her having an accident, but she isn't like Melissa Huckaby that willfully killed Sandra Cantu. She had no intent of hurting her kids, and I object to statements that have wording that implies she deliberately hurt her kids. yes, she should pay for making the decision to drive when under the influence of drugs and alcohol (I'm sure the prescription cautioned about driving while taking it and had a statement about alcohol intensifying those effects), but let's not make her out to be as evil as Huckaby.
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Posted 29 May 2010 - 07:58 AM

QUOTE (chris v @ May 27 2010, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She still deserves to die...



She is obviously very sick mentally. Pretty harsh words. Also, a MD should be held accountable here for giving her Morphine. Sorry, MD's give you anything you want just to get you out of the office. The Narcotics are given out too freely these days. She needs Psychiatric care and Rehab therapy. She needs to be put in Psychiatric State facility, that ought to snap her out of it. Too bad about her son. Very tragic story all the way around.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ May 29 2010, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I tend to agree with you. If her son lives, she doesn't deserve the death sentence, but she does deserve a nice long prison sentence. I also object to the wording of the news article "willful harm to a child". We all know she didn't willfully harm her child. She did willfully make bad decisions that led to her having an accident, but she isn't like Melissa Huckaby that willfully killed Sandra Cantu. She had no intent of hurting her kids, and I object to statements that have wording that implies she deliberately hurt her kids. yes, she should pay for making the decision to drive when under the influence of drugs and alcohol (I'm sure the prescription cautioned about driving while taking it and had a statement about alcohol intensifying those effects), but let's not make her out to be as evil as Huckaby.

This attitude is the reasoning that keeps ca laws from truly being able to protect the innocent.

I despise anyone who would drink-medicate-toke-shoot up-sniff-inhale-huff: then put a kid in a car and go run an "errand".

Further, after reading the how's and whats; I'm left wondering why the other parent wasn't arrested as well?
It certainly sounds like he was in on the dirty little secret, and was quite the enabler-right down to the emergency room door.

These stories sicken me. Complete disregard for the life they were blessed and given charge to rear.

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 04:18 PM

QUOTE (supermom @ May 29 2010, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This attitude is the reasoning that keeps ca laws from truly being able to protect the innocent.

I despise anyone who would drink-medicate-toke-shoot up-sniff-inhale-huff: then put a kid in a car and go run an "errand".

Further, after reading the how's and whats; I'm left wondering why the other parent wasn't arrested as well?
It certainly sounds like he was in on the dirty little secret, and was quite the enabler-right down to the emergency room door.

These stories sicken me. Complete disregard for the life they were blessed and given charge to rear.

Can you please explain what is wrong with my attitude? In no way have I stated she shouldn't spend time behind bars for her bad choices, but I also don't like doublespeak that implies intent to harm when there was no intent to harm. There was neglect to exercise safe & good judgement.
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Posted 29 May 2010 - 04:46 PM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ May 29 2010, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can you please explain what is wrong with my attitude? In no way have I stated she shouldn't spend time behind bars for her bad choices, but I also don't like doublespeak that implies intent to harm when there was no intent to harm. There was neglect to exercise safe & good judgement.

Where there is choice-there is intent.

She willfully attempted to murder herself, three children and a whole lots of persons she drove past or towards. She should be locked up for the rest of her natural life-hanging by her toe nails with a fender smashed into her head- wait no-no fender-I want her to know everyday-for the rest of her life, that she mutilated a child and rendered him broken.

Alcohol, drugs=bad,bad,bad.

And its not like its a secret.

She knew what she was doing.

Shame on anyone who is not willing to look that fully in the face.

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 08:10 AM

QUOTE (supermom @ May 29 2010, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where there is choice-there is intent.

She willfully attempted to murder herself, three children and a whole lots of persons she drove past or towards. She should be locked up for the rest of her natural life-hanging by her toe nails with a fender smashed into her head- wait no-no fender-I want her to know everyday-for the rest of her life, that she mutilated a child and rendered him broken.

Alcohol, drugs=bad,bad,bad.

And its not like its a secret.

She knew what she was doing.

Shame on anyone who is not willing to look that fully in the face.

I'm sorry but I refuse to agree to your doublespeak implying she deliberately attempted to murder herself and her kids. I'm highly confident in her mind she expected to make it home safely, that was her INTENT. Yes, her gross negligence in making wise choices led to the incident that happened, but it was not her INTENTION to have an accident. Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying she doesn't deserve to pay for her criminal negligence, but let's call it what it was, it was gross negligence, not Intent that led to the accident.

for example, the night I drilled a hole in my finger. I had no intent of doing so. Yes, I was drinking. Yes I was using power tools. And yes, I was grossly negligent in paying proper attention to where my left hand was while working the drill with my right hand. I wasn't drunk when I drilled my finger (although to help kill the pain I definitely got drunk afterwards). Although, because I didn't break any laws, I didn't cause harm to anyone else, I didn't have to serve hard time, but being strapped to an IV anti-biotic 24/7 for 10 days, I did serve time. But my poor exercise of proper safety procedures does not change my intent, my only intent that night was to get the Fender Flares on my 4X4.
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#222 wreathlady

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 08:39 AM

Unless all of you know this person, than NO one knows what her intentions were.

She is the only one that knows that and she obviously has many serious problems.

You just dont drive around with 3 kids on Mophine and Alcohol and call yourself normal.

So let the system due their job and lets hope they get it right.



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Posted 30 May 2010 - 10:19 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ May 30 2010, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry but I refuse to agree to your doublespeak implying she deliberately attempted to murder herself and her kids. I'm highly confident in her mind she expected to make it home safely, that was her INTENT. Yes, her gross negligence in making wise choices led to the incident that happened, but it was not her INTENTION to have an accident. Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying she doesn't deserve to pay for her criminal negligence, but let's call it what it was, it was gross negligence, not Intent that led to the accident.

for example, the night I drilled a hole in my finger. I had no intent of doing so. Yes, I was drinking. Yes I was using power tools. And yes, I was grossly negligent in paying proper attention to where my left hand was while working the drill with my right hand. I wasn't drunk when I drilled my finger (although to help kill the pain I definitely got drunk afterwards). Although, because I didn't break any laws, I didn't cause harm to anyone else, I didn't have to serve hard time, but being strapped to an IV anti-biotic 24/7 for 10 days, I did serve time. But my poor exercise of proper safety procedures does not change my intent, my only intent that night was to get the Fender Flares on my 4X4.


But, Bill Z, using a drill is a little different than getting into a moving 2-ton hunk of metal and hitting the road. She didn't just put her children in danger. She put everyone else who was on the road in danger. Let's not foget the other person in the other car that she hit, too.

I am sorry to hear about your finger. Sounds really painful. I've cut myself several times slicing French bread. Never mean to do it, always swear I'll be more careful next time, and yet there is always a next time, and it's usually while I have company and I'm chatting away while preparing food. Hence the reason why I never used a cell phone while driving even before it became a law.

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 11:15 AM

Let us monitor our judicial system regarding this incident, which occurred in January 2010. (the legal costs to our city/county, duration of jury trials, liabilities and verdict).
Intent, blah, blah, blah...consider the ramifications of this incident. It appears that this was NOT an accident and may have been prevented...regardless of INTENT.
This is a felonious crime which put the public in jeopardy. Let justice be served in a swift manner. Our judicial system is too lenient.
1. are you aware of what it costs the public to prosecute, and imprison criminals?
2. are you aware that criminals have the state of the art health care?
3. are you aware that criminals have the best eductional/rehabilitation programs?
and what of the victims of crimes?

please read the following...Intent? Who cares, no requests for change of venues, there are no pleas of insanity...case closed. NEXT? If justice was served in this manner maybe crimes would be deterred?

http://www.sfgate.co.../i193604D39.DTL



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Posted 30 May 2010 - 04:02 PM

QUOTE (antakarana @ May 24 2010, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I noticed a memorial with flowers near the intersection where this occurred. Did the female driver or one of her children die, or was the memorial for something else?


The memorial is for a man who died there on May 8. He suffered a fatal heart attack while driving on East Bidwell toward Creekside, and crashed into the corner of the medical/dental building on the corner of Hana Way and East Bidwell.




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