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[rpo]

I've only been to the Fox & Goose, not the other 3. I'm not into pub crawling, so I wouldn't know the difference between an English vs Irish pub.

The only difference is the Food!

[caligirlz]

The only difference is the Food!

Like what? wikipedia doesn't make any differentiation, and I can't find anything else on line......

Per wiki: Traditionally pubs in England were drinking establishments and little emphasis was placed on the serving of food, other than "bar snacks", such as pork scratchings, and pickled eggs, along with salted crisps and peanuts which helped to increase beer sales. If a pub served meals they were usually basic cold dishes such as a ploughman's lunch. In South East England (especially London) it was common until recent times for vendors selling cockles, whelks, mussels and other shellfish, to sell to customers during the evening and at closing time. "Pub grub" expanded to include British food items such as steak and ale pie, shepherd's pie, fish and chips, bangers and mash, Sunday roast, ploughman's lunch, and pasties. In addition, dishes such as burgers, lasagne and chilli con carne are often served.

Sounds downright american, except for the 1st section of oddities.

[ericm2031]

Apple store would be nice. LV. Upscale optician with real designer frames and lenses. High end audiophile stores would be fun. Williams Sonoma or some cooking class place. Computer retail store that sells a wide variety of computers across the top ten to fifteen makers instead of the very limited selections offered by the current stores in Folsom.

Out of what you mentioned, the only note I have is that Eye Designs is on the verge of signing their lease.

[WolfMom]

I've only been to the Fox & Goose, not the other 3. I'm not into pub crawling, so I wouldn't know the difference between an English vs Irish pub.



Or Gunther's !!!

My Grandmother used to live down the street from Gunther's. I would walk down there and get my favorite BUBBLE GUM ICE CREAM! Which I realize now was just pink colored vanilla but the tiny frozen gumballs were awesome. LOL.

[tgianco]

The nearest Lego store is at Arden Mall... um, pass on heading there. That would be a good one.

What about a National Geographic store? You've got to mix in an art gallery.

[EAH]

So far it seems that Palladio will be a home for several overpriced, not particularly good restaurants and already existing stores. Other than Whole Foods and the movie theater, I think I can safely avoid it.

[tsukiji]

So far it seems that Palladio will be a home for several overpriced, not particularly good restaurants and already existing stores. Other than Whole Foods and the movie theater, I think I can safely avoid it.

Is there a living list of committed and tentative tenants?

[rpo]

Like what? wikipedia doesn't make any differentiation, and I can't find anything else on line......

Per wiki: Traditionally pubs in England were drinking establishments and little emphasis was placed on the serving of food, other than "bar snacks", such as pork scratchings, and pickled eggs, along with salted crisps and peanuts which helped to increase beer sales. If a pub served meals they were usually basic cold dishes such as a ploughman's lunch. In South East England (especially London) it was common until recent times for vendors selling cockles, whelks, mussels and other shellfish, to sell to customers during the evening and at closing time. "Pub grub" expanded to include British food items such as steak and ale pie, shepherd's pie, fish and chips, bangers and mash, Sunday roast, ploughman's lunch, and pasties. In addition, dishes such as burgers, lasagne and chilli con carne are often served.

Sounds downright american, except for the 1st section of oddities.

I am discussing the specifics of what these two pubs/restaurants serve. They are not just pubs, they are restaurants as well. The beers are pretty much the same, but the food is different as they mostly serve the ethnic food of their countries, specifically english and irish fare.

As for the selections mentioned on Wikipedia, the only american food would be burgers and possibly chili. Everything else is english/irish.

[BobbiMcGee]

Like what? wikipedia doesn't make any differentiation, and I can't find anything else on line......

Per wiki: Traditionally pubs in England were drinking establishments and little emphasis was placed on the serving of food, other than "bar snacks", such as pork scratchings, and pickled eggs, along with salted crisps and peanuts which helped to increase beer sales. If a pub served meals they were usually basic cold dishes such as a ploughman's lunch. In South East England (especially London) it was common until recent times for vendors selling cockles, whelks, mussels and other shellfish, to sell to customers during the evening and at closing time. "Pub grub" expanded to include British food items such as steak and ale pie, shepherd's pie, fish and chips, bangers and mash, Sunday roast, ploughman's lunch, and pasties. In addition, dishes such as burgers, lasagne and chilli con carne are often served.

Sounds downright american, except for the 1st section of oddities.

I LOVE pickled eggs! I haven't seen them anywhere in years. I should make some of my own.

[momof1]

I LOVE pickled eggs! I haven't seen them anywhere in years. I should make some of my own.

Streets of London has Scotch Eggs.

[caligirlz]

I am discussing the specifics of what these two pubs/restaurants serve. They are not just pubs, they are restaurants as well. The beers are pretty much the same, but the food is different as they mostly serve the ethnic food of their countries, specifically english and irish fare.

As for the selections mentioned on Wikipedia, the only american food would be burgers and possibly chili. Everything else is english/irish.

About the food, other American-sounding food is peanuts, steak, shepherd's pie, fish and chips, Sunday roast, pasties (meat turnover), and lasagne. I know, the original origin for some is not american, but they have become american.

That Ploughman's Lunch is interesting, sort of reminds me of a packed lunch with different contents.

A basic Ploughman's is crusty bread, cheese plus pickled onions and chutney but this can vary considerably and it may also contain a selection of cold meats, ham, maybe a slice of pate and/or a slice of pork pie, sometimes slices of apple or other seasonal fruit. Traditionally the cheese, bread and pickles would be home-made by the ploughman's wife - making it a cheap and substantial lunch. Today, a good Ploughman's will be cheeses of the region and at the very least British; the same for the meats and other accompaniments. The bread must be a thick wedge of crusty bread or a baguette, anything less will not hold up when piled high with cheese, chutney and pickles. And to drink ...in a pub it must be a pint of the local beer or cider.

http://britishfood.about.com/od/faq/f/ploughmans.htm

Anyways, fun little thread highjack...

[ericm2031]

Is there a living list of committed and tentative tenants?

They have not posted a list, but have announced about 10 so far. I've announced about another 10 probably on here.

The nearest Lego store is at Arden Mall... um, pass on heading there. That would be a good one.

What about a National Geographic store? You've got to mix in an art gallery.

I'm not aware of Nat Geo even having physical stores, but I may be wrong. Lego is going to the Galleria.

[Barb J]

will be nice to have Eye Designs right here in Folsom! We've been using them since college and have followed them up to the Galleria. All the Optometrists we've seen there have been wonderful.

National Geographic used to have a store I think but maybe I'm confusing it with Discovery.

Eric: did you ever respond about a children's play area at Palladio?

Thanks,
Barb

[ericm2031]

will be nice to have Eye Designs right here in Folsom! We've been using them since college and have followed them up to the Galleria. All the Optometrists we've seen there have been wonderful.

National Geographic used to have a store I think but maybe I'm confusing it with Discovery.

Eric: did you ever respond about a children's play area at Palladio?

Thanks,
Barb

Eye Designs just opened up their newly expanded and renovated space at the Galleria.

You may have confused them. Discovery did shut down all their stores though, which I'm sure you knew.

My plans do not show a kids area however is a large central "piazza" which will have the space if they choose to put one; however, it got me looking, and there's only 2 children's store even planned at this time. They have signed on Gymboree and another Galleria retailer is proposed, but no letter of intent even yet. The Fountains did however just sign on "me gusta kids/baby" from Auburn and Crazy 8 by Gymboree. Seems like a key area Palladio is going to be missing considering the stay at home moms is the number 1 demographic that lifestyle centers are geared towards since they keep them busy during the week.

[Barb J]

Eric: not catering to the stay at home mom population is a fatal error. I would go to Galleria over Palladio if they don't have the shops and entertainment features that Galleria has (play area, carousel). I get that they are trying to be upscale but look at the demographics of Folsom! They should have a mom panel roundtable discussion if they want to know what would bring us into Palladio!

Gymboree is good! Gap Kids, Naartje, Children's Place, etc would all be wonderful additions.

Barb J