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#226 Nancy

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 09:53 PM

QUOTE(john @ Jul 20 2008, 10:09 PM) View Post
I wish I would post some of the emails he has sent me in which he staunchly defends that the current bridge name is more popular than Cash Crossing. He went as far as to say he's been "showered with compliments" or something to that effect as to the bridge name.

It just makes me scratch my head... who exactly does he hang out with?


You've GOT to be kidding. Who "showers" anyone with compliments about a bridge name? The only thing a bridge name will get you is a showering of complaints when it's stupid.

Is he sure that it's compliments he was showered with and not complaints? I'm detecting a lingering language barrier in his email ("Except for a handful of few").

It sounds like the poor man might just be confused.

Ah well. Maybe we should just switch gears and make Folsom the home of the Stupid Public Road, Bridge and Tunnel Names Association. We can't be the only ones. Heck, we're going to be overqualified. Not only are we going to have Folsom Lake Crossing, we've got two Oak Avenue Parkways that have no realistic hope of ever connecting.

That is, unless we build yet another bridge (God help us...).



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Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:25 AM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Jul 20 2008, 10:44 PM) View Post
To get the council to change their vote, I believe you will need at least 2 of those who voted yes to ask for reconsideration.

The best way to pursue this would be to start a petition and try and gather about 5000 signatures or roughly about 15% of the registered voters in Folsom. This would probably encourage council members to reconsider their vote.

Another option would be to get a petition and request a vote of the people through a charter amendant naming the bridge after Cash, but that would take more signatures and a lot of work.

Issues like this, generally transform into some other debate during the campaign. Naming the bridge after Cash isn't a right or wrong thing to do, so here will be a significant amount of people who will just vote NO on things no matter what. Couple that fact with many people will see Kerri being behind this movement. To be blunt, she just doesn't have the widespread suppport like her colleagues have and she has done a fairly good job of antagonizing many different groups and other community leaders. On issues where there really isn't a right or wrong, they probably would oppose anything she gets behind, because that is what she has done to so many herself. There are reasons why she consistently gets less votes than her colleagues when she runs.

These are the reasons why I'm fairly confident that an election regarding naming the bridge Johnny Cash would NOT be successful. Of course I respect everyone's right to their own opinion.

Those of you who want to tar & feather me for speaking bluntly, get in line. That still won't change the facts that the best way to get the name changed will probably be to get a petition started and try to get 5000 signatures.

Good luck!


Nobody wants to tar and feather you, Robert. Even though you seem to have no problem doing that to Kerri every single time she posts something here no matter what the subject. Your arguments contain a lot of probably and fairly confident, language along with innuendo and insinuation but no real facts.

Why does everything have to end in a petition in this town? They can claim to be showered with compliments, but I'm still embarrassed by the new name. If anyone asks me for directions once it's open, I'm calling it the Johnny Cash Bridge. If they can ignore this voter, I can ignore them just as well.

I still think you have good intentions, Robert. It's just my opinion you're going about things the wrong way. Of course my opinion isn't worth a hill of beans, being someone who enjoys some of Johhny Cash's music, since Mr. Cash is - how did Mr. Miklos put it? - a person of "lesser character."

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:39 AM

QUOTE(john @ Jul 20 2008, 10:09 PM) View Post
I wish I would post some of the emails he has sent me in which he staunchly defends that the current bridge name is more popular than Cash Crossing. He went as far as to say he's been "showered with compliments" or something to that effect as to the bridge name.

It just makes me scratch my head... who exactly does he hang out with?



laugh.gif the compliments must be coming from business' that have the name "Folsom Lake" in them - I was told there are a total of 27 in town, including the bank.

Miklos is more concerned about the local business interest in town then what Folsom citizens care about. Thus he was showered with compliments by those business' who urged him to vote for that name and it's why he is saying that name is much more popular then Cash crossing - because its true in his circle of business friends who are using that same name for their business'

- just a guess, but probably close...

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#229 Chad Vander Veen

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:01 AM

Oh good, Wikipedia has been updated
http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Folsom,_Ca

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:28 AM

QUOTE(c_vanderveen @ Jul 21 2008, 09:01 AM) View Post
Oh good, Wikipedia has been updated
http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Folsom,_Ca


Folsom is a city in Sacramento County, California, United States. Folsom is most commonly known by its famous Folsom Prison. As of 2007, the State of California's estimate of Folsom's population is 70,835.[1]

Folsom is a suburb of Sacramento and is part of the Sacramento–Arden-ArcadeRoseville Metropolitan Statistical Area.







Wow imagine that!


- hey Chad, that must mean only you, me and a handful of other people know that Folsom was made famous by the prison








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#231 Dave Burrell

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:45 AM

the best tid bit from Wiki....


Bridges
Folsom is home to several notable bridges - Lake Natoma Crossing, Rainbow Bridge, and a historic truss bridge. Recently, however, construction began on a new bridge as a former crossing along Folsom Dam was closed due to national security concerns. This new bridge has already made headlines. Many Folsom residents were hoping the bridge would be named in honor of Johnny Cash. The city council instead chose to name the bridge Folsom Lake Crossing. [5]


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Posted 21 July 2008 - 08:55 AM

QUOTE(davburr @ Jul 21 2008, 09:45 AM) View Post
the best tid bit from Wiki....
Bridges
Folsom is home to several notable bridges - Lake Natoma Crossing, Rainbow Bridge, and a historic truss bridge. Recently, however, construction began on a new bridge as a former crossing along Folsom Dam was closed due to national security concerns. This new bridge has already made headlines. Many Folsom residents were hoping the bridge would be named in honor of Johnny Cash. The city council instead chose to name the bridge Folsom Lake Crossing. [5]


Good one, davburr.

Could I be included on your list of handful of people that don't like the new bridge name?

Oh, and Kerri is the only one that responded to my email. (Although I didn't bother emailing Miklos.)

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:05 AM

QUOTE(ducky @ Jul 21 2008, 09:55 AM) View Post
Good one, davburr.

Could I be included on your list of handful of people that don't like the new bridge name?

Oh, and Kerri is the only one that responded to my email. (Although I didn't bother emailing Miklos.)


heheh me thinks our resident journalist had something to do with that edit - I can't take credit for that one but I think its great - and spot on accurate.... much more accurate then the closed minded perceptions SOME city council members have of what Folsom citizens prefer

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:11 AM

QUOTE(ducky @ Jul 21 2008, 09:55 AM) View Post
Good one, davburr.

Could I be included on your list of handful of people that don't like the new bridge name?

Oh, and Kerri is the only one that responded to my email. (Although I didn't bother emailing Miklos.)


had to add - ya know it slays me that Kerri gets so much crap all the time - when in fact she's the only one who seems to give a darn about what residents think....

maybe its just me but I feel she's the only one who's in contact with the community - well maybe Andy and Eric too but the others, holy crap it seems they are above the rest of us and are only concerned about developers ...

I could be wrong, but reality seems to show otherwise

the best measurement of this perception is based on WHO bothered to reply to EDF's email - if all the members had any care about what we think, they would have ALL taken a minute to reply - but instead that didn't happen - do they give a rats behind about what we care about? who knows - so far it looks like NO they don't...

is it any wonder why the other members did not reply to his email? maybe if those emails had come from a few business owners they'd then pay attention?

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:31 AM

QUOTE(Robert Giacometti @ Jul 17 2008, 10:20 PM) View Post
Where did I previously say she did something to be recalled?

If misleading the public is grounds for impeacment, wouldn't misleading the public be grounds for recall as well?

Its a simple question, why can't you answer it?

What question are you asking me to answer? There are three above.

You stated:
"I'd say there is a 50/50 chance you will see a recall against her next year. There is NO way she would survive." You also stated that people have approached you regarding a recall against Kerri.

I asked what she has done to warrant a recall. She represents me and I think it's a fair question to ask and, if you have a reason for stating the above, it's fair to share that information. When I asked you before, you talked about GW. I don't care in this instance what GW did, it's my local elected official I am curious about.

With the second question, are you saying that Kerri mislead the public?

Darn confused here. You aren't answering questions, you are responding with your own questions. Very politics-esque!

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:21 AM

So when are these city council people up for reelection again?


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Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE(Nancy @ Jul 21 2008, 12:21 PM) View Post
So when are these city council people up for reelection again?


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If you had gone back and read the previous items under this section you would have seen:::

http://www.folsom.ca...k/elections.asp

UPCOMING ELECTIONS

Folsom's next regularly-scheduled election will be held on November 4, 2008. At this election, Folsom voters will elect two City Council members.

The nomination period for Folsom City Council candidates will be July 14 - August 8, 2008. Individuals who are interested in running for Folsom City Council should contact the City Clerk at 916-355-7270.

I believe that Eric King & Jeff Starsky are up for re-election in 2008 but not sure.
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Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:38 AM

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:43 AM

Does anyone know if there are people planning to run against Eric King and Jeff Starsky???

Or if Eric King and Jeff Starsky plan to run again...





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Posted 21 July 2008 - 11:52 AM

Sorry. I was actually trying to make a point as well as ask the question. If I were on the city council and up for reelection, I'd be schmoozing with the public a bit more. The businesses might be who they focus on, but it's the people who actually elect them.

I've read all 16 pages of the thread since the beginning. I didn't have time to read through all of them to find the info. I couldn't remember if it was in Nov with everything else, or if there was some sort of special Folsom City Council election day. Thanks for finding it for me. I appreciate it.

Next time I'm being eye-rolly, I'll be sure to add one of these. rolleyes.gif

And maybe one of these. wacko.gif

Sorry for the confusion. Carry on.

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