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[bishmasterb]

So you want to move from your liberal neighborhood to a conservative neighborhood for better schools, yet you are worried about it being overly conservative?

The schools in Folsom may indeed be superior to those in Sacramento (I have no idea), but that's quite a leap to make an argument that conservatism in general leads to better schools. That certainly isn't the case in Biology classes!

[EDF]

I know this is a Folsom forum, but I'd like your opinion. We are considering moving to GB (or Folsom) for better schools from Sacramento.

I'm leaning towards GB since it's closer to my family and smaller, but I'm worried its overly conservative (politically).

If you have experience or opinions, please let me know. I want my children to experience a wide range of viewpoints. I've heard stories about over-zealous parents trying to ban certain books from schools, etc.

Hey at least in Granite Bay or Folsom you will get exposed to the conservative point of view... if you are puttinng your kids in government run public schools you just know that they are going to get drilled daily with some jive like "global warming" is going to cause life to end as we know it... ... of course, you'll get the "gay agenda" and some other social dribble like "white men" are evil... but at least your kids will be in a "tolerant" neighborhood that is primarily conservative....

so....hopefully they won't wind up as a murderous Che Guevera and/or a "Stalinist" loving "one world government commie socialist pig"... because.... well that would be wrong...

seeing as how we are mostly "capitalist" swine here.. well at least I am...

Peace brother...

[mylo]

so....hopefully they won't wind up as a murderous Che Guevera and/or a "Stalinist" loving "one world government commie socialist pig"... because.... well that would be wrong...

seeing as how we are mostly "capitalist" swine here.. well at least I am...

Actually, I consider myself a Marxist/Leninist Neo-conservative Libertarian

[Robert Giacometti]

The schools in Folsom may indeed be superior to those in Sacramento (I have no idea), but that's quite a leap to make an argument that conservatism in general leads to better schools. That certainly isn't the case in Biology classes!

I wasn't trying to make that arguement, I was just repeating what the the person posted.

When I use the term conservative, its desribing those who have the narrow interpetation of the constitution and LESS government, probably not that far from your views. When I use the term Liberalism it would be a reflection of those who have believe there are implied rights in the constitution, not specifically defined and those who feel more government is better.

IMHO, the current leadership calling themselves conservatives are really liberals, expanding goverment in another direction, while trying to redefine social policies. They have betrayed their very own conservative core philosophy in doing so!

[gorilla]

Hey at least in Granite Bay or Folsom you will get exposed to the conservative point of view... if you are puttinng your kids in government run public schools you just know that they are going to get drilled daily with some jive like "global warming" is going to cause life to end as we know it... ... of course, you'll get the "gay agenda" and some other social dribble like "white men" are evil... but at least your kids will be in a "tolerant" neighborhood that is primarily conservative....

so....hopefully they won't wind up as a murderous Che Guevera and/or a "Stalinist" loving "one world government commie socialist pig"... because.... well that would be wrong...

seeing as how we are mostly "capitalist" swine here.. well at least I am...

Peace brother...

Do you live on the same planet as the rest of us?

[bellaj]

This post should be preserved and published every time there is a debate over philosophical beliefs!

So you want to move from your liberal neighborhood to a conservative neighborhood for better schools, yet you are worried about it being overly conservative?

Did you ever stop and think that maybe the reason why the schools in your more liberal neighborhood aren't as good as schools in the conservative neighborhoods is the result of the inherrent failure of liberalism?

If I could politely suggest rather than moving to neighborhoods with better schools, you should first reconsider your philosophical beliefs. Maybe do a study on why schools in neighborhoods with simliar thinkers like yourself aren't as successful as others who think differently?

Then again, you could just blame society along with the conservatives, as the reason why some schools are better than others, then launch your crusade of opening the eyes of the conservatives around you while your children are reaping the rerwards of the better schools your new conservative neighbors established.

Good luck!

Actually Davis is VERY liberal and has great schools but it's too far from my family. So so much for your theory.

Why did this touch such a nerve? I just want to live in an area with a VARIETY of viewpoints, not just ONE. Get over yourself.

p.s. rerwards is spelled rewards

[bellaj]

I really don't understand why you would feel that way just because someplace is conservative, unless you have bad feelings toward conservatives.

Well, would you be happy living someplace where everyone is liberal? I don't have bad feelings towards conservatives, just hostile ones who are incapable of discussion with people who don't share their views-- like some of the hostile posts on this thread.

[EAH]

Hi Bellaj,
As someone who was born and raised in Berkeley, CA I can totally see where you are coming from. Yes, Sacramento as a whole is VERY conservative, and by the looks of this board Folsom is too. I tend to go outside of Sacramento or deliberately search out activities and programs that allow me to educate my kids about all viewpoints. I assume by Liberal vs. Conservative you are talking less about government and more about personal beliefs and human rights. If so, I think it is valuable that our children learn about
"some jive like "global warming" is going to cause life to end as we know it... ... of course, you'll get the "gay agenda" and some other social dribble like "white men" are evil..."
Especially when our government is espousing exactly the opposite viewpoints ( no such thing as global warming, gays do not deserve the same rights as others, et all). It's all about fair and balanced representation, educating them on all the veiwpoints and letting them make an informed decision for themselves.

[mylo]

I'm of the opinion you've got to get your kids out of this country to get a balanced view. People who care about other things than the latest pro and con- 'gay agenda' garbage spewed on our state media.

[cw68]

Bellaj, GB and Folsom are conservative. There's no way around that. If tolerance is what you're looking for, I wouldn't really expect it out here. If, however, you're looking for money and parental involvement being poured into schools (IMO, a far better indicator of a school's success than political leanings), you'll find that. Expect some hostilities, as indicated by the self-centered responses here, but you will find some like-minded individuals. I've somewhat learned to enjoy being the voice of dissent.

[Robert Giacometti]

Actually Davis is VERY liberal and has great schools but it's too far from my family. So so much for your theory.

Why did this touch such a nerve? I just want to live in an area with a VARIETY of viewpoints, not just ONE. Get over yourself.

p.s. rerwards is spelled rewards

I knew my post was going to go over your head!

Maybe you should try being the open minded one by possibly waiting to meet the good citizens of GB before prejudging them based on your preconceived biases towards conservatives. You might be pleasantly enlightnened to the point of possibly reconsidering some of your views.

Its your preconceived, stereotyped thinking that allows you to even consider that everyone in GB thinks the same way. The people I know who have a variety of viewpoints, would never think any community has only ONE viewpoint.

Its too bad you don't have the capabilities to recognize and accept it was your title that was hostile towards conservatives and that your attitude prompted some of the responses. I've seen this with others who intially cast aspersions towards others then claim others aren't nice with their responses.

BTW, in the last test scores I saw, the Folsom Schools scored higher than the Davis Schools.

[cw68]

BTW, in the last test scores I saw, the Folsom Schools scored higher than the Davis Schools.

The elementary school that scored the highest in the region is in Sacramento proper. (Crocker-Riverside)

Why be so demeaning to her?

[bishmasterb]

Sorry Robert, I certainly took your post to mean that you were linking school quality to conservatism as well. If that's not what you meant when you asked the rhetorical question below, I apologize.

Did you ever stop and think that maybe the reason why the schools in your more liberal neighborhood aren't as good as schools in the conservative neighborhoods is the result of the inherrent failure of liberalism?

I'll forgive the various spelling errors in your post as you were probably educated in a liberal school district.

[bellaj]

I knew my post was going to go over your head!

Maybe you should try being the open minded one by possibly waiting to meet the good citizens of GB before prejudging them based on your preconceived biases towards conservatives. You might be pleasantly enlightnened to the point of possibly reconsidering some of your views.

Its your preconceived, stereotyped thinking that allows you to even consider that everyone in GB thinks the same way. The people I know who have a variety of viewpoints, would never think any community has only ONE viewpoint.

Its too bad you don't have the capabilities to recognize and accept it was your title that was hostile towards conservatives and that your attitude prompted some of the responses. I've seen this with others who intially cast aspersions towards others then claim others aren't nice with their responses.

BTW, in the last test scores I saw, the Folsom Schools scored higher than the Davis Schools.

yep, you're way over my head.

I don't have preconceived views -- that's why I'm looking for people's opinions on this board. Since I'm seriously considering moving to GB, I'm obviously not hostile to the "good citizens" of the area. Just looking for some input.

I think it's great that Folsom schools scored better than Davis; my point was that Davis has excellent schools and you were arguing that liberal areas were incapable of good schools.

I do appreciate the other responses from people on this board-- most of the comments have been very helpful.

[gorilla]

Actually Davis is VERY liberal and has great schools but it's too far from my family. So so much for your theory.

Why did this touch such a nerve? I just want to live in an area with a VARIETY of viewpoints, not just ONE. Get over yourself.

p.s. rerwards is spelled rewards

welcome to Folsom, you're now seeing the types of conservatives that are in this town with the responses you're getting. if you don't like that blow hard Limbaugh, you may not like some of the people here (they idolize him).