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[Silverado]

Camp Far West

[Sandman]

Clementine has that silly rule about no towables though. Not sure what their objection is but towables are probably more popular than wakeboarding or skiing.

-Robert

Well if you like to wakeboard or waterski its not a silly rule. Tubers have a way of destroyng smooth water in a hurry. Also considering the fact its a very narrow lake with blind corners I don't know that its the safest place to be pulling kids around on towables. Probably the main reason for this rule

[M.E.G.]

We like Bullard's Bar for the day, its beautiful. We also like Lake Oroville, but I heard at the first of the season that they were low, so they might be in bad shape also.

My husband likes to fish on the river, but I don't like taking my kids/friends out for wakeboarding or tubing. Seems to congested, not a lot space to turnaround and I think there are more partiers out there.

M.E.G.

[Orangetj]

Oh and there were plenty of waterskiiers making fun wakes for the canoe at Jenkinson Reservoir last weekend.

Were there 4 of you in that canoe? If so, I may have seen you from the beach.

[Orangetj]

Well if you like to wakeboard or waterski its not a silly rule. Tubers have a way of destroyng smooth water in a hurry. Also considering the fact its a very narrow lake with blind corners I don't know that its the safest place to be pulling kids around on towables. Probably the main reason for this rule

How do tubers destroy smooth water any faster than wakeboarders or skiers? Heck, aren't most wakeboarding boats set up to produce the biggest wake possible?

[hopeanelli]

Lake Berryessa is still one of the better lakes around here if you can't go to Folsom it's only about 1.5 hours if you go in the back way through Winters. Great for a day trip, huge lake lots of coves to chill in and a few great areas for wake boarding and skiing at the very end by Putah Creek Resort. All resorts (overnight) will be closing soon as the Bureau of Rec wants to make it a day use only lake rumor has it though some nice new Resorts may/will be opening in the future. I am sad about that our family has had a trailer up there for many years and they have to pull the trailer out at their cost...

Oroville is pretty low right now... Bullards Bar is nice but small ... Camp Far West is cool but gets a little crazy at times.

[Sandman]

How do tubers destroy smooth water any faster than wakeboarders or skiers? Heck, aren't most wakeboarding boats set up to produce the biggest wake possible?

Wakeboarders and skiers on Clementine are required to drive in a counterclockwise fashion around the lake. They typically drive straight, make ONE pass with ONE wake that eventually dies out on the shore and they are gone to another part of the lake. Tubers typically stick around in the same area doing their figure 8's, going aroudn in circles, tossing their boats in every direction humanly possible, all while making an absolute mess of the water. I guess you haven't spent much time on the water....

[Robert Gary]

Wakeboarders and skiers on Clementine are required to drive in a counterclockwise fashion around the lake. They typically drive straight, make ONE pass with ONE wake that eventually dies out on the shore and they are gone to another part of the lake. Tubers typically stick around in the same area doing their figure 8's, going aroudn in circles, tossing their boats in every direction humanly possible, all while making an absolute mess of the water. I guess you haven't spent much time on the water....

Of course, that's the fun. Wakeboarding and skiing require practice and skill. I have both but also have several tubes. Some are fun to just sit in and one is a 3 person couch with big handles for each users (Costco purchase). That thing tends to spend most of its time in the air though while the riders hang on as hard as they can. Personally, I would rather sit in that than wakeboard, it's more extreme.

I have a couple of friends that are serious skiers and wakeboarders. None of them use public lakes though. There are dedicated private lakes for those serious activies.

-Robert

[Darth Lefty]

Were there 4 of you in that canoe? If so, I may have seen you from the beach.

When I was in it, there were 2 of us, but later three others took it out. Don't think there were ever four. It's a good ol fashioned Grumman aluminim canoe...

[MSgt]

How about Jenkenson lake at Sly Park? They water ski there don't they?

[Orangetj]

Wakeboarders and skiers on Clementine are required to drive in a counterclockwise fashion around the lake. They typically drive straight, make ONE pass with ONE wake that eventually dies out on the shore and they are gone to another part of the lake. Tubers typically stick around in the same area doing their figure 8's, going aroudn in circles, tossing their boats in every direction humanly possible, all while making an absolute mess of the water. I guess you haven't spent much time on the water....

Meh, you have no idea how much time I've spent on the water skiing, fishing and kayaking. You're correct that boats pulling tubes do tend to spend more time going side to side, since that is what makes tubing fun. I'll agree that Clementine isn't an ideal lake for tubing, since its very small size necessitates a fixed pattern of driving. If a tuber wants to get pulled along in a straight line, though, why shouldn't they be allowed to do so?

I guess I'm just not sure I understand why perfect conditions for one group are more important than another group having the ability to do their thing at all. This is something I've seen in boating (fishermen vs. skiiers, boaters vs. jetskiers, kayaks/canoes vs. powerboats) and other recreational activities. There's always some group that thinks their right to enjoy their one specific pastime is more important than those of other groups, so they try to ban other uses altogether. I feel an off-topic rant coming on, so I'll just stop now!

Back on topic - Clementine is a beautiful lake, Jenkinson is nice, Tahoe is nice if you have the time and a big enough boat, Berryessa. I don't personally enjoy the Delta or the Sacramento River, but there are those who do.

[EDF]

you are blaming environmentalists for the drought? that's pretty funny.

No... for draining the lake....

it's stupid the way they have managed it the last several years

[4thgenFolsomite]

No... for draining the lake....

it's stupid the way they have managed it the last several years

there are a lot of management issues that go into water use in california. the primary reason for this summer's lake level (and hence the speed limit restrictions) has more to do with rainfall and snowpack than it does fish or agricultural releases. personally i would rather see speed restrictions than flat out no salmon in the future. all the high sierra lakes are being kept at their current capacity (no releases) right now in anticipation of the low run-off this year. and since last year was below average percipitation by half, and this year being the least rain ever, it's only prudent they do so.

i'm not taking any sides here, but I think this decrease in snow pack in the sierra is just what those damn environmentalists have been warning about. don't blame them for the weather.

[EDF]

My take on it is that we need more storage... lots more .... we haven't built a dam in this state for a long time....

and...

Since I don't believe in the scam called "man made global warming"... this is just another series of dry years....

We're probably due for a really wet year this one coming up... being an old "f*rt" that has lived here for years... we had some dry years in 1991 and 92...and 93 was a big rain year... so we're due...

what I don't want them to do is always anticipate the rainfall... like they did in 2004... when we had wet months and then March came in and nothing again... and all the dam folks could say was "oops... we though more was coming"... in hind sight we should have kept more instead of releasing so much...

and then to make it worse in 2004.. they had that levee break down in the delta and we had to "flush" out the system with guess what... large releases from Folsom lake....

I guess that's we get in the way of "good government"...