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#16 js0628

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 01:03 AM

QUOTE (normajean @ Feb 7 2009, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
after seeing her picture on the news this evening, my family and i believe jennifer brown is employed by the fcusd school district. she works at folsom middle school as some type of campus monitor, library assistant, cafeteria lady, etc, appears to be everywhere. kids know her as the "lady that walks around at lunch with a trash bag collecting cans".



How easy it is to forget that this is someones mother.. sister .. daughter when throwing around hurtful words. I am sure YOU have never made a bad decision in your life (GASP) .. I happen to know this individual... and although I do not justify the incident in any way.. I do know that she is a hardworking mother who has never even had a routine traffic ticket. This incident is unfortunate for all involved.

And as far as picking up cans.. Good for her.. Maybe if the spoiled kids of Folsom recycled their own trash she wouldnt have to.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:13 AM

QUOTE (normajean @ Feb 7 2009, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
after seeing her picture on the news this evening, my family and i believe jennifer brown is employed by the fcusd school district. she works at folsom middle school as some type of campus monitor, library assistant, cafeteria lady, etc, appears to be everywhere. kids know her as the "lady that walks around at lunch with a trash bag collecting cans".

That's one easy budget cut solution!

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:16 AM

QUOTE (js0628 @ Feb 8 2009, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How easy it is to forget that this is someones mother.. sister .. daughter when throwing around hurtful words.

Maybe if the spoiled kids of Folsom recycled their own trash she wouldnt have to.


Now who's throwing around words? Seriously, I realize you know this woman but in her defense the best you can do is label the students at FMS "spoiled"? Please...you say you are not justifying her actions but you are trying to minimize this through YOUR language choices and it is offensive to anyone who has unfortunately had to share the road with a drunk.

You can say she made a "bad decision" but in the end, she COMMITTED A CRIME...not just any crime, but a crime that can quite easily result in the death of innocent victims--a child riding home with his mother, a police office doing his job and keeping our streets safe, a father on his way to his second job as he tries to feed his family. DUI is not just a "bad decision"...it is a crime and there's no good defense of it. Whether she's done this once or one hundred times, she made a choice that could have easily killed people. And whether she's a "hardworking mother" or not, she is a criminal. So finding out that people in this community are concerned that she is employed at their child's school should not be shocking.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:32 AM

QUOTE (dori2u @ Feb 8 2009, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's one easy budget cut solution!

I thought those positions were volunteers?



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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:37 AM

I believe that campus monitors/lunchroom monitors are paid positions. Granted, they are not a big part of the budget, but they are paid by the district. Now, the recycling collecting may be a volunteer service to the school unless it's part of a custodial postion.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 09:48 AM

I know a different Jen Brown and this had me going for a bit
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 11:40 AM

wow js0628! exactly what "hurtful words" did i throw out?

all i did was say who my family and i believe she is and where she works. as long as we are correct then all i stated was a fact, where she is employed. if you are referring to the comment about collecting cans, again, just stating a fact that that's how the kids know her......

and IF there is anything hurtful here at all, it is that she was driving drunk. THAT is pretty hurtful to a lot of people.....herself, her family, the police officer, his family and all those kids at the middle school.....

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 02:58 PM

QUOTE (js0628 @ Feb 8 2009, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How easy it is to forget that this is someones mother.. sister .. daughter when throwing around hurtful words. I am sure YOU have never made a bad decision in your life (GASP) .. I happen to know this individual... and although I do not justify the incident in any way.. I do know that she is a hardworking mother who has never even had a routine traffic ticket. This incident is unfortunate for all involved.

And as far as picking up cans.. Good for her.. Maybe if the spoiled kids of Folsom recycled their own trash she wouldnt have to.


Actually, this is a situation where it was my sister, and I chose the exact same words I chose for this individual. No person, not even my family and friends gets a pass for this behavior. This was not an accident, this was a choice. Her perfect driving record in the past means either this is her first offense and hopefully her last, or she had never been caught. It has no bearing on this incident. My sister is also a wonderful, hardworking, single mother of 4 with a severly medically fragile child that she is amazing with... Sober. Thats not when there was a problem. It is the moment the choice is made to get into a vehicle and drive drunk... all those AMAZING qualities, they go out the window... and then what if you hurt or kill somebody, what about their amazing qualities... and they didn't even get a choice.

I have made SEVERAL bad decisions in my life... NONE of which could not have resulted in harm or death. There are such things a accidents. Drinking and driving is not one of them.

just me perspective

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 05:03 PM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Feb 7 2009, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But this is where some of the unfairness in our judicial system kicks. She hurt a cop, the DA won't be nice, she's doing time, guaranteed. If that bicyclist had been an off-duty cop, I'm sure that sentencing would also have been different.


Seems a bit draconian. We can't continue hold people in jail who have not been found guilty of a crime. Being able to post bail and be released pending trial is a fundamental right that we all enjoy. At least give her her day in court, then we can demand the death penalty.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 05:58 PM

QUOTE (tsukiji @ Feb 7 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pffff. With our enforcement history around here? You can apparently plow into people, putting them in a coma and in the hospital for months and get off scott free.


QUOTE (FolsomResident2002 @ Feb 7 2009, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like to think she got off easy. She got a year in county jail instead of the seven years of PRISON so yeah...she got off!


Truth in posting...she did not get off scott free and she did not get a year in county jail instead of seven years of prison. She got a year in county jail, five years of probation and the option of going to prison for seven years if she violates her probation after she serves her year.. oh yeah and also having to live with herself for the next 65 or 70 years...

Not taking sides here...but let's at least attempt to get the facts straight.
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:13 PM

Chipshot got banned???? When?


QUOTE (supermom @ Feb 7 2009, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't worry about it---


He's been baiting people for over a week.


Well, actually--he's been baiting people since Chipshot got banned.


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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:25 PM

I know this individual also. I don't know her to be a "drunk" or even a casual drinker. Dori's comment gives me pause.

I wonder if she was upset and worried about her job?

Not exactly a good reason (as if there are any good reasons for getting drunk and driving) -- and she definitely made a doozy of a mistake here, but I wonder how many other people in this economy have done this and by only dumb luck have gotten home okay?

I know it's easy to verbally cast stones at someone who has allegedly committed a potentially deathly crime, but as js said -- she IS someone's mom and she DOES work hard to provide for her family. I am sure there is more than meets the eye here.
But if it makes you feel good about yourself to sit in judgment and imagine that she's a callous and selfish drinker wildly careening out of control on her umpteenth drunken driving binge go ahead

. . . but that simply wouldn't be the truth.



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QUOTE (dori2u @ Feb 8 2009, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's one easy budget cut solution!


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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:28 PM

I don't believe she's been tried and convicted, but you people sure have her on the way to death row.



QUOTE (sunnyCA @ Feb 8 2009, 08:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now who's throwing around words? Seriously, I realize you know this woman but in her defense the best you can do is label the students at FMS "spoiled"? Please...you say you are not justifying her actions but you are trying to minimize this through YOUR language choices and it is offensive to anyone who has unfortunately had to share the road with a drunk.

You can say she made a "bad decision" but in the end, she COMMITTED A CRIME...not just any crime, but a crime that can quite easily result in the death of innocent victims--a child riding home with his mother, a police office doing his job and keeping our streets safe, a father on his way to his second job as he tries to feed his family. DUI is not just a "bad decision"...it is a crime and there's no good defense of it. Whether she's done this once or one hundred times, she made a choice that could have easily killed people. And whether she's a "hardworking mother" or not, she is a criminal. So finding out that people in this community are concerned that she is employed at their child's school should not be shocking.


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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:53 PM

This may be the first and only time she ever drank much less drank and drove. But, this still was a choice. I am not chastising... but not making light eaither.

This is what it is...

If the news is true, she drank, she drove, she hit a parked car that hit a person.

This particular person aside,

I stand by all comments I made in relation to any person no matter how wonderful they are, if it's their first offense or if they are the town drunk...

Drinking and driving is NEVER and accident, there is no excuse, not one.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:54 PM

No matter how you want to slice this, she was driving under the influence and was over the limit. She also hit a police car and injured a policeman so, NOT GOOD...
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