Could it be that some people outside Folsom think of us as a middle class low crime suburbia ripe for the picking? I think most people who live here feel safe and may not take the precautions that people do in higher crime areas. You don't see a lot of bars on windows here and I hope we never do. But still I know in my own neighborhood we have seen people who don't live here lurking in alleys and have car and garage burglaries on those same days. when times are tough, people get tougher and look for crimes of opportunity. I think this is what that reverse 911 call from the FPD was all about a few weeks back.

Outsiders Bring Crime Into Folsom
#16
Posted 17 September 2009 - 08:50 AM
Could it be that some people outside Folsom think of us as a middle class low crime suburbia ripe for the picking? I think most people who live here feel safe and may not take the precautions that people do in higher crime areas. You don't see a lot of bars on windows here and I hope we never do. But still I know in my own neighborhood we have seen people who don't live here lurking in alleys and have car and garage burglaries on those same days. when times are tough, people get tougher and look for crimes of opportunity. I think this is what that reverse 911 call from the FPD was all about a few weeks back.
#17
Posted 17 September 2009 - 08:51 AM
Tongue firmly in cheek

Barb J
#18
Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:00 AM
I've looked at the satellite images of Swinton, and, if they are accurate, that house only really has one neighbor. The rest of it is surrounded by open space and what looks like a pond, so that may be why nobody noticed.
#19
Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:01 AM
#20
Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:25 AM
I believe you're thinking of meth. Crack is relatively easy to produce. It's basically cocaine + baking soda:
http://health.howstu....com/crack2.htm
I also looked at a map of Swinton, but every house on that road appears to be in the 1800 block. They didn't give a specific address in the article.
#21
Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:28 AM
http://health.howstu....com/crack2.htm
I also looked at a map of Swinton, but every house on that road appears to be in the 1800 block. They didn't give a specific address in the article.
D'oh. Thanks, mylo. See what happens when I don't get my drugs in the morning (coffee).
#22
Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:31 AM
Are we too easygoing? do merchants need to be more aware of their own security?
We have to get the message out otherwise, there will be more local people hurt. Business is hard enough as it is, without losing out to thieves. We attract a lot of people from outside Folsom and that is good. Some crime is coming with that, so what should we do about it? The first thing is awareness, that there appears to be an uptick - maybe it was there all along and just not reported as much? Maybe the economy is a factor? Maybe there is more money here in Folsom? Maybe it is away from where they live, so they aren't messing in their own back yard, so there is less chance people will know them.
Yesterday, we reported a woman traveling the state, ripping off businesses everywhere, driving around in her pink cadillac. (the sticky note bandit) There was the credit card thief in Sutter Street last week, The Antelope serial burglar, the Marijuana grow and others that I didn't get information to report.
Overall, crime in Folsom is much lower than the national average, Violent crime is especially low here. Most of it is really property crime - and it is rising - just over half the national average. Unfortunately, I didn't keep the stats, but I thought I looked at them a year ago and we were under 25%
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#23
Posted 17 September 2009 - 10:18 AM
How about 'Crackhead Busted!'. That's more accurate.
If you have evidence to suggest that there is an edidemic of outsider crimes, please do report it, as this would definitely be cause for concern, but the 'sticky note bandit' and the crackhead does not mean we are not necessarily indicators of an outsider crime wave. Those criminals are many things, other than outsiders.
We haven't even defined 'outsider'. Is it someone who doesn't live here? Doesn't work here? Just moved here? Wasn't born here?
Are we too easy going? I don't think so. We Folsomites seem to have a healthy dose of fear of crime and are quick to call the police. Just ask the cops.
There are a couple of recent news events in which the crime or incidents were committed by people who did not live in the area. The Yale student who was murdered was apparently killed by someone who lived in another town. Yale has indeed experienced an uptick in crime. Should the headline have read, "Outsider kills Yale student?"
I'm not trying to give you a bad time, I just think the headline and premise are inaccurate, and there are other ways of reporting crimes than blaming them on outsiders.
Please do keep reporting.
Absolutely we do.
Sure, that could be the case, though for many, Folsom has the reputation of being tough on crime.
When you see people lurking in alleys, how do you know they don't live here? I hope you call the police when you see such activity. I would, without regard to whether they live here or not.
Although cops have busted plenty of out-of-towners cruising for car stereos, laptops, etc., they've also busted plenty of Folsom residents for the same. Crime is the problem, not outsiders.
In recent years, we've seen people protest and oppose the building of the Palladio Mall, Super Wal-mart, light rail, the mosque, even the lingerie and dildo shop on Sutter St, for fear of outsiders.
By the way, as mentioned before, I attended a presentation on Folsom history a year or so ago where a long-time resident said that Folsomites have always been wary of outsiders.
Many were opposed to Intel coming to town for fear of crime. He even recalled that in the late 40's, Folsomites were afraid of the construction workers who were to build the dam, and the crime they'd bring with them.
Some things never change.
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#24
Posted 17 September 2009 - 10:42 AM
OK here is another story, about the stats that say Folsom is the safest place in this area and I am told, one of the safest in the US.
Story:
Folsom The Safest Place to Live
My only point was that it seemed that there were people who don't live here, coming here to do crime and the residents and merchants are being hit by this. The police are doing a great job and people are reporting the crimes and suspicious people, yet a lot of businesses are being hit up and losing money. I remember a year ago, Grapes and Ivy in Sutter Street had exactly the same problem and a couple of others within a few days.
Most of the merchants are probably too busy to come to MyFolsom a lot, to read this or to go to FolsomLocalNews or even the Telegraph or the Bee, so maybe I have to find other ways to reach them. (like walking the streets as I do quite a lot.
- I'd better wear something conspicuous or I might be reported for loitering - LOL
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#25
Posted 17 September 2009 - 10:45 AM
I've lived here a long time and I've never heard of anyone that was afraid of Intel coming to town. I think your theory of old-timer's fear of outsiders is a little overblown. Fear of increase in crime, yes, absolutely.
From the Telegraph just recently. (Don't mean to steal your thunder, newsblaze)
http://folsomtelegra...h...e=&town_id=
http://folsomtelegra...h...e=&town_id=
#26
Posted 17 September 2009 - 11:05 AM
I've lived here a long time and I've never heard of anyone that was afraid of Intel coming to town. I think your theory of old-timer's fear of outsiders is a little overblown. Fear of increase in crime, yes, absolutely.
From the Telegraph just recently. (Don't mean to steal your thunder, newsblaze)
http://folsomtelegra...h...e=&town_id=
http://folsomtelegra...h...e=&town_id=
I agree completely. Not liking change and how it affects people's lives is different than fearing people. And, Stevethedad, we know these people didn't live in our neighborhood because we have a neighborhood watch and know our neighbors very well.
#27
Posted 17 September 2009 - 11:17 AM
Here are some facts. Yes the house only has only one direct neighbor, He was renting it from someone who lives in the Bay Area, and they don't think he was selling directly from the house.
They've been keeping an eye on him for a while and finally made the bust the other day. It's not clear whether he actually lived there or just used it as a safe house. Talking with a number of neighbors, no one really saw the guy very often, obviously he was trying to keep a low profile.

#28
Posted 17 September 2009 - 11:21 AM
Thanks, good info.
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#29
Posted 17 September 2009 - 11:28 AM
I'm just going by what the speaker said at the presentation. By the way, the fear of outsiders he mentioned was fear that they would bring crime.
I hope the neighborhood watch called the cops. Strangers lurking in neighborhood alleys are bad news.
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#30
Posted 17 September 2009 - 12:52 PM
Rockin it up in Folsom - Manufacturing Narcotics in Our Streets
hmmm--maybe not so difficult this stuff is at Sutter Middle School--now.

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