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[wreathlady]

I agree with BillZ. I get a flu shot every year and (despite widespread exposure to elementary age children) I haven't had the flu in at least 10 years.

I got my seasonal flu shot yesterday. Sore arm today.

I am a little undecided about getting my kids a seasonal flu shot this year. I know they are being exposed to H1N1 at school. This raises the possibility that they could get a flu shot (thus generating an immune response), and simultaneously have to battle H1N1 infection. That prospect -- fighting off 2 flu bugs at once-- gives me pause. I mentioned it to the pharmacist, but she thought it wasn't a concern since the flu shot is inactivated virus. Still...

I don't know about the H1N1 vaccine. The last swine flu vaccine (in the 1970's) caused some people to develop a very serious complication called Guillian-Barr syndrome. Plus, as a practical matter, the timing might be too late -- in 3 more weeks, many more kids will have caught swine flu at our local schools. I'm in "wait and see" mode on this.

I think you have great logic. It is funny you would bring that up, because my grandson who just got a flu shot, got an undocumented case of H1N1. He has always got a seasonal flu shot. I thought this year I wonder if that was smart. I think it actually lowered his immune system and opened him up for the other virus. Just my own opinion. Now he is on antibiotics, went to sinus infection and has some chest stuff going on. So , I think you are correct. Stay with the MOM gut feeling.

[wreathlady]

Since you included anesthesia, I have had that twice when I had teeth pulled, but that was it. No tetanus, no polio. Blood was drawn one time, and that was just for life insurance.

Now I can see most vaccines, but tetanus is a scary one.. Well that is your belief. Glad you have been ok without them. You have never stepped on a nail or anything?

[rpo]

Now I can see most vaccines, but tetanus is a scary one.. Well that is your belief. Glad you have been ok without them. You have never stepped on a nail or anything?

I have a few times. Nails, staples, barb wire, etc. Never a problem. I even grew up drinking water straight out of the creek on our property on a regular basis. I have never become sick from any of that.

My personal belief is most of those things are done out of fear rather than necessity. The chance of it coming back to bite you later on is so slim that I do not see shots as necessary.

[ducky]

I wouldn't forego the disease vaccinations like for mumps, measles, TB, and whooping cough, because those vaccines have obviously knocked those diseases down to almost nothing.

I'm not so sure how great the flu shots are. I got one last year for the first time in a while and I got the flu anyway, when most years I don't. I won't be getting the H1N1. They rushed it through too soon.

My son got the chicken pox shot and got the chicken pox anyway, and it wasn't a "lighter" case like they claim it will be.

Sometimes I wonder if the vaccine is actually a good one, but things get botched in the handling and storing of it when it gets to clinics that render them useless.

[Bill Z]

I think you have great logic. It is funny you would bring that up, because my grandson who just got a flu shot, got an undocumented case of H1N1. He has always got a seasonal flu shot. I thought this year I wonder if that was smart. I think it actually lowered his immune system and opened him up for the other virus. Just my own opinion. Now he is on antibiotics, went to sinus infection and has some chest stuff going on. So , I think you are correct. Stay with the MOM gut feeling.

If he's on anti-biotics, then it isn't a viral infection, it's a bacteriological one.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

If he's on anti-biotics, then it isn't a viral infection, it's a bacteriological one.

He's on the antibiotics because of the sinus infection (and maybe bec. of infection in his lungs), not because of the virus that caused the infection.

[Bill Z]

He's on the antibiotics because of the sinus infection (and maybe bec. of infection in his lungs), not because of the virus that caused the infection.

viruses don't cause bacteriological infections, bacteria does. Viruses cause viral infections.

Weakened immune systems caused by a virus, can allow for bacteria to get a foothold, but they don't cause it.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

viruses don't cause bacteriological infections, bacteria does. Viruses cause viral infections.

Weakened immune systems caused by a virus, can allow for bacteria to get a foothold, but they don't cause it.

Ppppppfffffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttt -- Symantics! The virus weakened the immune system, thereby leading to the infection. The point was that the child wasn't on antibiotics to threat the virus, but to treat the infection.

[Bill Z]

Ppppppfffffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttt -- Symantics! The virus weakened the immune system, thereby leading to the infection. The point was that the child wasn't on antibiotics to threat the virus, but to treat the infection.

It's not Semantics, it's one is right and one is wrong.

and Symantec is Norton's anti-viral software.

So "Ppppppfffffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttt" yourself.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

It's not Semantics, it's one is right and one is wrong.

and Symantec is Norton's anti-viral software.

So "Ppppppfffffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttt" yourself.

Man, I've had a salt fight and a pppppppppppppppppffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttt fight in the same day... and I'm a peace-lovin' gal.

[4thgenFolsomite]

I have had two nurses tell me that as long as they are until 70 and healthy, they will not take any flu vaccines that will mess with their immune system. I tend to agree with that logic. seems to be a lot of autoimmune disorder going around these days.

[Bill Z]

Man, I've had a salt fight and a pppppppppppppppppffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttt fight in the same day... and I'm a peace-lovin' gal.

I suggest you go eat a mouthful of saltines and then try to whistle, that should take the salt fight and ppppppffffffftttttttt right out of ya.

[Bill Z]

I have had two nurses tell me that as long as they are until 70 and healthy, they will not take any flu vaccines that will mess with their immune system. I tend to agree with that logic. seems to be a lot of autoimmune disorder going around these days.

To each his own, but I'm a firm believer in modern chemistry as I would have died a long time ago without it. 300 years ago, I wouldn't have made it to my 4th B-day, and a 100 or fewer years ago, I probably wouldn't have made it past 30.

[ducky]

Man, I've had a salt fight and a pppppppppppppppppffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttttttttt fight in the same day... and I'm a peace-lovin' gal.

Deb's got a brand new attitude
She's gonna wear it tonight
She's going to get in trouble
She wants to start a fight.


Besides it wasn't really a salt fight per se. It was more of a sodium skirmish.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

Deb's got a brand new attitude
She's gonna wear it tonight
She's going to get in trouble
She wants to start a fight.


Besides it wasn't really a salt fight per se. It was more of a sodium skirmish.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, you wrote a poem about me. I'm so honored.