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#16 Bill Z

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 10:34 AM

QUOTE (Rockport Family @ Jul 8 2010, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A cop arrived about 9 minutes after the crash. About another 4-5 minutes for the ambulance and fire to arrive. This happened in front of houses and people were on the scene in a matter of seconds. The driver stayed in the car because that is what he was told to do by everyone trying to help. Best not to jump to conclusions.

It still took sometime for adults to arrive. I know if I was conscious, I would have been out of the car immediately, one, damaged vehicles from accidents sometimes catch fire (not like they show in most movies, but still, a wrecked vehicle is not a "safe" place to be in). Two, I would have been concerned for my passengers and been out to check on them right away.
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 10:41 AM

QUOTE (stevethedad @ Jul 8 2010, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As you and your kids grow older, your perspective may change.

I often use the example of an old friend who had 3 kids. One grew up to be a jewelry designer, another a nurse. The middle, a trouble-making drug addict. Same house, same parents, same rules.

We do our best with our kids, but they still have to go out into the world and make choices.


I remember your example and like I argued before, just because you are in the same house doesn't mean you raise your children correctly or how they need to individually be raised. Same for each often times does not work. My parents treat my siblings and I all differently. What punishment style that works for me did not work for my other siblings. What reward style also was very different. I could go into many examples but I will spare you the long, drawn out point.

Plus, there is a point when you become an adult and make your own choices. BUT at 16 it is still the parents responsibility to raise the child to not be a follower/cave to peer pressure, do drugs, consume alcohol and drive a vehicle. Somewhere all of these parents dropped the ball and did not teach their children respect for self and others, personal safety while in vehicles, that drugs/alcohol are bad especially for teens and allowed them the ability to drive when they obviously did not earn or deserve it!

Oh well my dad will gladly teach them at his work(juvenille jail facility), where hopefully these hoodlums will end up. Then they will get the proper guidance, risk and reward model and an understanding of right and wrong...which they clearly did not get at home!!!!!

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:54 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Jul 8 2010, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It still took sometime for adults to arrive. I know if I was conscious, I would have been out of the car immediately, one, damaged vehicles from accidents sometimes catch fire (not like they show in most movies, but still, a wrecked vehicle is not a "safe" place to be in). Two, I would have been concerned for my passengers and been out to check on them right away.


Easy to say what you would have done after the fact. The driver was obviously in shock. He just rolled the car 4-5 times and his friends were ejected. This happened about 100 yards from my back yard and we called 911 seconds after it happened... the dust settled and people were on the scene offering help within 30 seconds to a minute. There was a younger man, maybe a teenager himself that took charge. Whenever one of the passengers tried to move, he was told/yelled at… to stay still. Not sure where you get your emergency advice from, but after an accident like this, the car not on fire, injuries not known, it is best to stay put and wait for help and that is what these good Samaritans made sure happened.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 12:17 PM

science has proven that the teenage brain is not fully formed. kids make risky and poor decisions because their brains are done yet. parents are responsible for keeping them home at certain hours, but beyond that, there isn't much you can do except provide a good example, set some ground rules, follow through with consequences, and hope for the best.
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 01:37 PM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Jul 8 2010, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hillcrest is a gated community for custom homes with strict limintations on the smallest size home you can build on the lots. It's not a place the poor or your average middle class person can afford.



Much to your chagrin it's now known that none of them live in Hillcrest.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE (4thgenFolsomite @ Jul 8 2010, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
science has proven that the teenage brain is not fully formed. kids make risky and poor decisions because their brains are done yet. parents are responsible for keeping them home at certain hours, but beyond that, there isn't much you can do except provide a good example, set some ground rules, follow through with consequences, and hope for the best.


It's the same at any age! My 20 month old son does crazy things like putting his chair on top of the couch and then tries to sit on it. It is very dangerous yet he is still experimenting with what to do and not to do. The other night he tried to drink pinesol right in front of me. I was stupid to leave it right next to the bucket for just a second as I was reaching for the cap that fell under the fridge. My son walked right over, grabbed it, motioning it towards his mouth. I grabbed it out of his hands and put it up high in our child safe pantry. I am not a bad parent but I have to watch my son like a hawk and limit my stupid decisions, which in turn limits his! I think it will get easier to parent as my son gets older and harder with some issues like peer pressure. My son however naturally likes to do dangerous things and will even look at my husband and I while he does it. In an almost, "Watch me Mama as I hit myself with this plastic bat!" He also now knows that if he causes himself harm, he gets attention from other people. He loves to do this while we are in public. It drives me nuts when middleage women play into his antics, which in turn makes it worse because he is getting the reaction that he wants.

The problem is parents give up, blame society or the media and do not realize that parenting is a 24/7/365 requirement that lasts your entire life. If parents would realize that their children are their #1 priority, then situations like this would diminish. You have to be on them to make the right decisions and that means talking to them all night if you have to. You can't send them to school, summer camps and every extra curricular activities all the time, then give them gadgets and park them in front of the t.v. or computer and expect them to know what you would like them to do or not do in life. There are too many other outside influences that will teach your children horrible things. You have to be their filter. You need to teach them the ills of the world before they have to experience them first hand.

I would say that my parents did an absolutely wonderful job, especially with the parents that raised(better yet didn't raise) them. There were many times that our family would be debating clear into the next day but I always knew where my parents stood on almost all subjects. If I was unclear, I felt comfortable enough to discuss any topic with them and get an honest answer. I wasn't given the, "Just don't because I said so." I was informed of things that could go wrong in life and the many different approaches. My parents knew all my friends and their families and nearly every aspect of my life. Most parents now days barely know where there kid is at any time, let alone their friends. I know I see the missing children reports...missing hgt and weight info...how do you not know that?

I am not saying that there are not children with a mental disease that may make them prone to bad behavior, it just isn't the majority. AND if your kid has a mental illness they should be given the best health professionals to assist with their care.

Any thing less than giving you children your full attention, love, care, respect, BOUNDARIES and expectations, is setting them up to fail in life and as ADULTS. You are not raising children, you are raising ADULTS. I am sooooo sick of parents and their lack of accountability!!!!!

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Folsombuilder @ Jul 8 2010, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Much to your chagrin it's now known that none of them live in Hillcrest.


Where do the kids live? And how did they get into Hillcrest since it's gated?

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 02:06 PM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ Jul 8 2010, 07:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, Hillcrest?!

I guess the rich kids aren't always perfect angels.


Asinine comment. Didn't realize it was okay for "rich kids" to get hurt in car accidents.

You should try real hard to get that chip off your shoulder - it's clearly holding you down.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 02:13 PM

Glad no one was killed.

Driver will likely lose his license, which he doesn't deserve to have.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 02:22 PM

But for the grace of God go I.

I had good parents but I did some really stupid things. I look back and think how lucky I am that I made it though my teen years without harming myself or God forbid anyone else.

Sending my prayers that those kid who were injured recover and that the driver learns from this horrendous mistake. I can't even imagine the guilt and pain he/she will live with.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 02:23 PM

If it were four teens in a Stanza on the corner of Coloma & Sunrise would we have spent this much cyber-ink on it?
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 02:34 PM

I would!!!...People need to raise their children to respect the road and not give them the ability to drive, if they cannot!!!!

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 02:36 PM

QUOTE (Darth Lefty @ Jul 8 2010, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it were four teens in a Stanza on the corner of Coloma & Sunrise would we have spent this much cyber-ink on it?


Probably, if we all lived in that area and there was a MySunrise/Coloma board.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 03:05 PM

QUOTE (curiousity @ Jul 8 2010, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Glad no one was killed.

Driver will likely lose his license, which he doesn't deserve to have.



The article said:

The unlicensed driver, a 17-year old male, was found gripping the steering wheel, his seat belt still on, when police arrived.

// He didn't have a license to lose //

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 05:44 PM

QUOTE (curiousity @ Jul 8 2010, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Glad no one was killed.

Driver will likely lose his license, which he doesn't deserve to have.


Nothing to lose. Believe the reports said the driver was unlicensed. When will everyone get it into their brain that drinking and driving DO NOT mix? That has been the message for how long and yet you read of DUIs and accidents (really not so much accident as reckless operation of a vehicle colliding with another object) in the daily paper?




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