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[caligirlz]

I have a couple of thoughts. This could be a huge source of income for the counties! However, how can they possibly enforce it? Will they be hiring more police officers or animal control officers? I imagine they would have quadruple the force. though, it is possible that the fines would pay for salary & benefits. What would be really great, is if there would be citizen citations. Although, I'm sure things could get really out of control... that person down the street who has a grudge against you (for throwing newspapers over his fence for his dogs to shred!) could cite you for your dog barking....

Steve, I'd be furious if I was your relative's neighbor. I'd report her to management, and if nothing was resolved, then I might try Dave's airhorn at 2 am.

That's just wrong (& irresponsible) to leave a dog alone for hours & hours. And that's exactly why I do not currently have a dog.

[Steve Heard]

That's just wrong (& irresponsible) to leave a dog alone for hours & hours. And that's exactly why I do not currently have a dog.

I find it interesting how peoples' views on dogs have changed over the years.

I'm old enough to remember when dogs slept in dog houses out in the yard, and might be allowed to sleep in the garage if it was cold or raining. Dogs slept outside and they didn't bark all night, and they still loved their owners in the morning.

I was in Louisiana a few weeks back and visited a cousin who has a dog. The dog isn't allowed inside, and the kids go outside to play with it. It doesn't bark or scratch on the door. It just hangs out.

On the other hand, I have a friend who didn't want to go on her honeymoon because she didn't want her dog to be lonely. She actually told her husband that she didn't need a honeymoon. He threatened to go to Maui alone, and she finally agreed to go, if they could get her mom to come to town and stay with her dog. She feels that using boarding kennels is cruel.

Whether one sleeps with their dog or keeps it outside, they still have a responsibility to keep it from disturbing the neighbors.

[caligirlz]

I find it interesting how peoples' views on dogs have changed over the years.

I'm old enough to remember when dogs slept in dog houses out in the yard, and might be allowed to sleep in the garage if it was cold or raining. Dogs slept outside and they didn't bark all night, and they still loved their owners in the morning.

I was in Louisiana a few weeks back and visited a cousin who has a dog. The dog isn't allowed inside, and the kids go outside to play with it. It doesn't bark or scratch on the door. It just hangs out.

On the other hand, I have a friend who didn't want to go on her honeymoon because she didn't want her dog to be lonely. She actually told her husband that she didn't need a honeymoon. He threatened to go to Maui alone, and she finally agreed to go, if they could get her mom to come to town and stay with her dog. She feels that using boarding kennels is cruel.

Whether one sleeps with their dog or keeps it outside, they still have a responsibility to keep it from disturbing the neighbors.

yea....I've been through that whole cycle too. When I moved to Sacramento, I had to give away my dog, my child, and it was horrible. But now I'm healed of that "need", really an idolization of dogs, and I'm loving it!!!

And I now agree with my parents, "true freedom is when the kids move out & the dog dies".

[Dave Burrell]

That's just wrong (& irresponsible) to leave a dog alone for hours & hours. And that's exactly why I do not currently have a dog.

Whether one sleeps with their dog or keeps it outside, they still have a responsibility to keep it from disturbing the neighbors.

+10000000000000000000000 for both these comments

[Robert Giacometti]

Laws, laws, laws. How about if we actually talk to people to solve problems instead of go through the authorities?

Don't loose that thought!

If we didn't have the law banning open carry, the neighbor could strap on their 44 magnum, stroll over to the neighbors and knock on the door. When the dog owners answered, they could say they were sorry for interrupting, but they weren't feeling well and the dog barking was causing them to feel even worse and to top it all off they been out of prozac for the last 3 days.

I suspect the dog barking would cease!

[The Average Joe]

Maybe just park outside her house and honk incessantly...some courts define honking as an expression of your first amendment...course then you'd have the other neighbors mad at you lol

Washington State finds honking free speech

[doj_gal]

Maybe just park outside her house and honk incessantly...some courts define honking as an expression of your first amendment...course then you'd have the other neighbors mad at you lol

Washington State finds honking free speech

hahaha...this reminds me of my son. He will grab my keys and turn on the emergency alarm nearly everyday. I am sure it drives my neighbors nuts. I always try to hide my keys but he finds them or my husbands keys and "turns on the button"...<----as he calls it!

[Darth Lefty]

Don't loose that thought!

If we didn't have the law banning open carry, the neighbor could strap on their 44 magnum, stroll over to the neighbors and knock on the door. When the dog owners answered, they could say they were sorry for interrupting, but they weren't feeling well and the dog barking was causing them to feel even worse and to top it all off they been out of prozac for the last 3 days.

I suspect the dog barking would cease!

Threatening to shoot people is also against the law. You should probably save it for a real problem, like the burglars who are coming to your house because they are avoiding the house with the barking dog.

[EAH]

I find it interesting how peoples' views on dogs have changed over the years.

I'm old enough to remember when dogs slept in dog houses out in the yard, and might be allowed to sleep in the garage if it was cold or raining. Dogs slept outside and they didn't bark all night, and they still loved their owners in the morning.

I was in Louisiana a few weeks back and visited a cousin who has a dog. The dog isn't allowed inside, and the kids go outside to play with it. It doesn't bark or scratch on the door. It just hangs out.

On the other hand, I have a friend who didn't want to go on her honeymoon because she didn't want her dog to be lonely. She actually told her husband that she didn't need a honeymoon. He threatened to go to Maui alone, and she finally agreed to go, if they could get her mom to come to town and stay with her dog. She feels that using boarding kennels is cruel.

Whether one sleeps with their dog or keeps it outside, they still have a responsibility to keep it from disturbing the neighbors.

Just as with medicine, as science allows us to gain knowledge we learn more and more about the emotional intelligence and inner lives of the animal world that surrounds us. Let's not sell our canine compananions short as we know so little about them. The good news is we are learning more and more about them every day.

You and I will have to agree to disagree on how dogs should be treated (mine will never sleep outside in heat or cold, our house is their house and they are trained well).

I just don't understand the hostility towards dogs, it's the owners that should be held at fault in this instance.

I know you don't own a dog, but those of us who do have intimate knowledge about how much love, affection, and joy our canine companions give us. There are a myriad of peer reviewed scientific studies published on the beneficial relationship canines/pets have on their human owners,to wit;
lower blood pressure
improve depression
detect epileptic events
detect diabetic lows
help the blind
help with Autistic Children
detecting cancer in it's early stages
And the list continues to grow.
These are all relatively NEW findings, that were unknown to us 25 years ago.
Imagine what we will discover about them in the next 25 years!

Is it really necessary to constantly malign our companions??? What gives????

[Steve Heard]

Just as with medicine, as science allows us to gain knowledge we learn more and more about the emotional intelligence and inner lives of the animal world that surrounds us. Let's not sell our canine compananions short as we know so little about them. The good news is we are learning more and more about them every day.

You and I will have to agree to disagree on how dogs should be treated (mine will never sleep outside in heat or cold, our house is their house and they are trained well).

I just don't understand the hostility towards dogs, it's the owners that should be held at fault in this instance.

I know you don't own a dog, but those of us who do have intimate knowledge about how much love, affection, and joy our canine companions give us. There are a myriad of peer reviewed scientific studies published on the beneficial relationship canines/pets have on their human owners,to wit;
lower blood pressure
improve depression
detect epileptic events
detect diabetic lows
help the blind
help with Autistic Children
detecting cancer in it's early stages
And the list continues to grow.
These are all relatively NEW findings, that were unknown to us 25 years ago.
Imagine what we will discover about them in the next 25 years!

Is it really necessary to constantly malign our companions??? What gives????

I am not saying that dogs should be left outside, I was making the observation that many people now find abusive what used to be standard dog ownership practice. I find nothing abusive about letting animals sleep outside unless the temperatures are dangerous or even too uncomfortable.

Having said that, please don't misunderstand. I've owned several dogs over the years, and after I retire, plan on having another since I'll have the time to care for one. I supported the idea of the dog park and remember donating or buying a ticket to an event to help get funding for it.

My family has been taking care of our neighbors' dogs (up to 3 at a time) for 10 years, when they take their frequent vacations or weekends away.

I feel dogs should be treated with kindness and respect, and they can be a lot of fun.

Uncontrolled, however, they can be a nuisance or even dangerous.

In recent years, I've seen dog owners having their dogs out, off leash (illegal) and have had them bolt after me while jogging down the street, on the bike trails and while biking, and the owners never give much thought to it.

While we should treat animals with respect, and I'm glad that most do, we should put people and their health, safety and peace first.

[EAH]

I am not saying that dogs should be left outside, I was making the observation that many people now find abusive what used to be standard dog ownership practice. I find nothing abusive about letting animals sleep outside unless the temperatures are dangerous or even too uncomfortable.

Having said that, please don't misunderstand. I've owned several dogs over the years, and after I retire, plan on having another since I'll have the time to care for one. I supported the idea of the dog park and remember donating or buying a ticket to an event to help get funding for it.

My family has been taking care of our neighbors' dogs (up to 3 at a time) for 10 years, when they take their frequent vacations or weekends away.

I feel dogs should be treated with kindness and respect, and they can be a lot of fun.

Uncontrolled, however, they can be a nuisance or even dangerous.

In recent years, I've seen dog owners having their dogs out, off leash (illegal) and have had them bolt after me while jogging down the street, on the bike trails and while biking, and the owners never give much thought to it.

While we should treat animals with respect, and I'm glad that most do, we should put people and their health, safety and peace first.

Agree!

[Darth Lefty]

oops

[awood]

Laws, laws, laws. How about if we actually talk to people to solve problems instead of go through the authorities?

The same people that leave the barking dog outside all day every day apparently are so exhausted when they get back that they can't answer the door. Over the past 5 years I have BANGED on their door every time before I was fed up enough to call the "dog lady".

I feel sad for any dog that is allowed to bark endlessly, it means that they want your attention for SOME reason! It's not like breathing, they do it because they feel like SOMETHING needs attention. Whether its barking dogs or neighbors banging on their door, apparently some people are too busy regardless!

[awood]

I know you don't own a dog, but those of us who do have intimate knowledge about how much love, affection, and joy our canine companions give us. There are a myriad of peer reviewed scientific studies published on the beneficial relationship canines/pets have on their human owners,to wit;
lower blood pressure
improve depression
detect epileptic events
detect diabetic lows
help the blind
help with Autistic Children
detecting cancer in it's early stages
And the list continues to grow.
These are all relatively NEW findings, that were unknown to us 25 years ago.
Imagine what we will discover about them in the next 25 years!

Is it really necessary to constantly malign our companions??? What gives????

Yet, zero of these measured the impact on neighbors who have to listen to a unattended barking dog for hours on end (plenty of studies available on the ill effects of stress!). Dogs do wonderful things WHEN they have responsible owners.