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[Darth Lefty]

Speed bumps sometimes just appear in the middle of the night.

I seem to remember the rationale for the no-bumps policy had to do with fire trucks getting high-centered. or maybe it was Ferraris. Something red, anyhow.

I think you could do quite a lot with bott's dots or grooves or some other thing that makes you notice but doesn't throw the car into the air. Or, just lay down some curbs and paint and narrow the lanes. It works.

[tsukiji]

I like automatic radar / picture machines.

[Redone]

A Mr. SLow in front of each house.

[Harold]

Don't take this as a personal critique. But given the prevalence of accidents, hit-run and other traffic tragedies reported in the news, perhaps we, the people, are not the best arbiters of safe speed. This methodology seems flawed.

OK, I won't take it as a personal critique. but maybe you should think about the other 20%. If 80% is taken as safe, that leaves 20% that are driving too fast for safety. 20% driving less than safe is more than enough to account for the prevalence of accidents and stuff. Heck, I'm surprised there aren't more.

[tsukiji]

OK, I won't take it as a personal critique. but maybe you should think about the other 20%. If 80% is taken as safe, that leaves 20% that are driving too fast for safety. 20% driving less than safe is more than enough to account for the prevalence of accidents and stuff. Heck, I'm surprised there aren't more.

I don't disagree. But what I was implying was that even if 80% 'think' a certain speed is safe (or just don't care), I'm not sure that's the best way to set a 'safe' speed limit. The other 20% are just driving at an even more unsafe level -- it doesn't mean that the 80% are driving at safe levels.

IOW, A majority of people driving at a certain level of speed doesn't make the speed safe.

[The Average Joe]

Get a child mannequin, attach it to a skateboard, hide behind a parked car, wait for a speeder and roll the "kid on skateboard" a few feet out from behind the parked vehicle as the speeder approaches...

The speeder will remember their heart stoppage far longer than a "you are going this fast" sign.

Seriously, we tried to get children at play signs, speed bumps, enforced patrol, etc in our neighborhood (no sidewalks and lots of blind curves)...no luck. We eventually gave up on that and are extra vigilant instead. Funny thing, our street isn't even a thoroughfare, it just loops back on the neighborhood so traffic must be local...thanks neighbors!

OTOH, there are speed limit "nazis" who go overboard. On a local street with a 40mph limit, I had a man yell loudly and gesture angrilly, "The limit is 40!"
My speed? 39mph. Sigh...

would it be wrong for spike strips to accidentally be left out?

Not sure how that 2x4 got there....

[tsukiji]

would it be wrong for spike strips to accidentally be left out?

I like the way you think.

I wonder if some military style discipline methodology would work here (at least for some cases): if the driver gets pulled over for speeding, DUI and similar infractions, everybody in the car with a driver's license gets the same ticket. Use peer pressure to instill desired behaviors....

[Harold]

I don't disagree. But what I was implying was that even if 80% 'think' a certain speed is safe (or just don't care), I'm not sure that's the best way to set a 'safe' speed limit. The other 20% are just driving at an even more unsafe level -- it doesn't mean that the 80% are driving at safe levels.

IOW, A majority of people driving at a certain level of speed doesn't make the speed safe.

OK, you're right, the majority of people drive recklessly and dangerously. It's a fricking miracle any of us survive on the road.

[Sparkey]

take away their reason for using your street as a shortcut.....

so, if you cant get a speed bump, then change the rules of driving.

Make some of the roads one way...or No turn right from a targeted corner (awesome solution--forcing them to go waaay out of their way, they don't come back:).

ofcoarse..it still requires you to go through the traffic planning commission or whatever it is called in each city, for permission to get the change approved....

Supermom

Great, You get it!


The other thing that I didn't mention was "Stop-Signs". FYI soooo the only two things that I'm aware of that will work 24/7 at this time is as stated: "Speed-Bumps" or "Stop-Signs" or in some cases, even both.

Also maybe what the fight here is, is "Cost" (money perhaps already delegated to another program). And not the inability to change, although I find that dificult to believe after what was done to "Old-Town/Down-Town".

p.s. I may be willing to participate in something real, but I don't believe passive suggestion is going to help much in this particular case.

Sincerely,
Sparkey

[newfamtofolsom]

I was told, by the city council member I contacted, that he would look at stop signs (that too was my suggestion). He's a city engineer. I'll wait to see if I hear anything more. I was told this back in late October.

[ducky]

I was told, by the city council member I contacted, that he would look at stop signs (that too was my suggestion). He's a city engineer. I'll wait to see if I hear anything more. I was told this back in late October.

I'm not sure who you talked to, a city engineer or a city council member or both. Did they mention anything about gathering neighbors' signatures requesting a stop sign? I wonder if that would help move things along.

[Harold]

Not sure how that 2x4 got there....

You mean the one with nails poking up out of it?

"It must have fallen out of that pick-up truck that drove by awhile ago"

[newfamtofolsom]

I'm not sure who you talked to, a city engineer or a city council member or both. Did they mention anything about gathering neighbors' signatures requesting a stop sign? I wonder if that would help move things along.

I corresponded in email with
Mark A. Rackovan, PE
Senior Civil Engineer/Traffic
City of Folsom Public Works

No, he didn't mention getting neighbors signatures, but that's a great idea. I can do that myself and I'm willing to, but with managing a 3 week old baby and a 2 year old right now it might have to wait.

[ducky]

I corresponded in email with
Mark A. Rackovan, PE
Senior Civil Engineer/Traffic
City of Folsom Public Works

No, he didn't mention getting neighbors signatures, but that's a great idea. I can do that myself and I'm willing to, but with managing a 3 week old baby and a 2 year old right now it might have to wait.

Sounds like you have your hands full!
You shouldn't have to do it yourself. I know you're new to Folsom, but it might be a good way to meet your neighbors. I'm sure the other neighbors are just as fed up with the speeding as you are. Maybe ask one neighbor for their signature and ask if they would be willing to recruit some more neighbors.