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[4thgenFolsomite]

Oh... Of course... I will be waiting for your review

hey, that sounds a lot like "you go first!"

[granto]

Oh, and here are some reviews:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/532293

Here are Yelps on the one in Roseville:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/dickeys-barbecue-pit-roseville-2#query:dickeys%20barbeque

[Sandman]

Will keep dreaming for the day they open a Rudy's in this area...

[casualforce]

There is a Dickeys in Morgan Hill just off 101. I go there when I'm visiting, but It's up and down. Some things are ok and other things, eh not so much. I wouldn't say it's bad but It's certainly not fantastic. They have a barrel (big jar) of pickles you can grab, ice cream you can grab on the way out. It's different that way. But they are also pricey. I don't believe this area (especially by Walmart) makes the kind of income that will support it. They would have done better opening a place in Town Center in EDH. But common sense doesn't seem to apply to American Business any more.

[asbestoshills]

Ok guys, let's get this straight, location is important, but it's the FOOD that's more important. I don't care how close Johnny Rockets is to the new movie theater, I won't eat there! BTW, heard they only made $800 last month and their other companies had to pay their rent-I say closed by Christmas or before-get a Cheesecake Factory there and it will always be packed.
I'm so sick of Folsom peeps saying oh the area/location isn't right. NO, it's the shiz they call a quality dining experience that is lacking!!!!
The food is crap at 80% of the restaurants in this town and that's why they constantly close. NOT everyone wants hamburgers and hotdogs, tacos or pizza. GET THIS, how about an organic/natural fast food restaurnat with quality ingredients that tastes good! How about a chinese or japanese drive thru or Indian? How about hiring people who don't pick their scabs or nose when they take your orders? The cleanliness is a big factor why we don't go back to a few places in Folsom. There are a few chains who get it right and they are doing well, but their salt content is too high at 2/3-Cheesecake Factory in Roseville, In/Out, and La Bou. How about a drive-thru type La Bou, it would do very well here. This is the problem, if it's healthy the restaurant just makes wraps, think that stupid new concept restaurant in Bel Air parking lot and the food looks processed. Jacks Urban Eats does well, but I got sick three times and never went back-not sure if they use some kind of rinse on salad but others I know got sick there too. Rubios is ok, but not always fresh. Olive Garden, Mimi's, BJ's all are salt ridden and processed with out anything healthy to eat. I think people realize that you can't live long and healthy if you eat this garbage no matter how cheap or appetizing it is. Just b/c all you can eat breadsticks and processed chicken pasta that has more salt than an average adult should eat in a day for $9.99 doesn't mean I'm going to eat it or feed it to my family no matter how many commericals I see that promise me the food tastes just like I was eating in Italy.

[momof1]

There are a few chains who get it right and they are doing well, but their salt content is too high at 2/3-Cheesecake Factory in Roseville, In/Out, and La Bou.

FYI, you can ask for low salt or no salt on your fries and your burger at In'n'Out. and they will make it that way.
I go no salt on burger and light salt on fries to reduce the sodium content when I order.

[GoodFellas]

Ok guys, let's get this straight, location is important, but it's the FOOD that's more important. I don't care how close Johnny Rockets is to the new movie theater, I won't eat there! BTW, heard they only made $800 last month and their other companies had to pay their rent-I say closed by Christmas or before-get a Cheesecake Factory there and it will always be packed.
I'm so sick of Folsom peeps saying oh the area/location isn't right. NO, it's the shiz they call a quality dining experience that is lacking!!!!
The food is crap at 80% of the restaurants in this town and that's why they constantly close. NOT everyone wants hamburgers and hotdogs, tacos or pizza. GET THIS, how about an organic/natural fast food restaurnat with quality ingredients that tastes good! How about a chinese or japanese drive thru or Indian? How about hiring people who don't pick their scabs or nose when they take your orders? The cleanliness is a big factor why we don't go back to a few places in Folsom. There are a few chains who get it right and they are doing well, but their salt content is too high at 2/3-Cheesecake Factory in Roseville, In/Out, and La Bou. How about a drive-thru type La Bou, it would do very well here. This is the problem, if it's healthy the restaurant just makes wraps, think that stupid new concept restaurant in Bel Air parking lot and the food looks processed. Jacks Urban Eats does well, but I got sick three times and never went back-not sure if they use some kind of rinse on salad but others I know got sick there too. Rubios is ok, but not always fresh. Olive Garden, Mimi's, BJ's all are salt ridden and processed with out anything healthy to eat. I think people realize that you can't live long and healthy if you eat this garbage no matter how cheap or appetizing it is. Just b/c all you can eat breadsticks and processed chicken pasta that has more salt than an average adult should eat in a day for $9.99 doesn't mean I'm going to eat it or feed it to my family no matter how many commericals I see that promise me the food tastes just like I was eating in Italy.

I love that idea,however,it would not be "fast food" pricing. Organic, Natural healthy items cost more, so would people pay more for this type of eatery? I would.

[casualforce]

I'm so sick of Folsom peeps saying oh the area/location isn't right. NO, it's the shiz they call a quality dining experience that is lacking!!!!
The food is crap at 80% of the restaurants in this town and that's why they constantly close.

Bulls eye! Thank you for some refreshing truth.

[nomad]

Bulls eye! Thank you for some refreshing truth.

How about that Acorn Cafe place? I never went, heard the food was awesome, but the location did it in.

[eVader]

Ok guys, let's get this straight, location is important, but it's the FOOD that's more important. I don't care how close Johnny Rockets is to the new movie theater, I won't eat there! BTW, heard they only made $800 last month and their other companies had to pay their rent-I say closed by Christmas or before-get a Cheesecake Factory there and it will always be packed.
I'm so sick of Folsom peeps saying oh the area/location isn't right. NO, it's the shiz they call a quality dining experience that is lacking!!!!
The food is crap at 80% of the restaurants in this town and that's why they constantly close. NOT everyone wants hamburgers and hotdogs, tacos or pizza. GET THIS, how about an organic/natural fast food restaurnat with quality ingredients that tastes good! How about a chinese or japanese drive thru or Indian? How about hiring people who don't pick their scabs or nose when they take your orders? The cleanliness is a big factor why we don't go back to a few places in Folsom. There are a few chains who get it right and they are doing well, but their salt content is too high at 2/3-Cheesecake Factory in Roseville, In/Out, and La Bou. How about a drive-thru type La Bou, it would do very well here. This is the problem, if it's healthy the restaurant just makes wraps, think that stupid new concept restaurant in Bel Air parking lot and the food looks processed. Jacks Urban Eats does well, but I got sick three times and never went back-not sure if they use some kind of rinse on salad but others I know got sick there too. Rubios is ok, but not always fresh. Olive Garden, Mimi's, BJ's all are salt ridden and processed with out anything healthy to eat. I think people realize that you can't live long and healthy if you eat this garbage no matter how cheap or appetizing it is. Just b/c all you can eat breadsticks and processed chicken pasta that has more salt than an average adult should eat in a day for $9.99 doesn't mean I'm going to eat it or feed it to my family no matter how many commericals I see that promise me the food tastes just like I was eating in Italy.

I agree with you on the need for a quality fresh ingredient place. Everything seems processed and out of a box or freezer at fast or quick food places where a microwave or deep fryer is the most used in the kitchen.

Where i disagree is on location. The Acorn Cafe, the El Salvadoran/Mexican place where Urban Dog was, Express Gourmet, GoodFellas etc did not close because the food was lacking...the food was GREAT. So maybe location really is a factor along with high leases or operating costs.

[4thgenFolsomite]

How about that Acorn Cafe place? I never went, heard the food was awesome, but the location did it in.

I think in that case it was location. the food was excellent, but they ran a lunch model restaurant in a space that was too small, so they couldn't get the volume of costumers they needed to make the rent. Chez Daniel is doing GREAT there, but they cater to dinner service, a few more tables, but a much higher per diner rate. charge more and you need less volume. its all in the business model.

urban dog wasn't so great. the three times I went there, my bun was so steamed it fell apart before I could eat it. and the sides weren't that great either. the coleslaw was inconsistently either too horseradishy hot or too bland. not everyone wants fries or other fatty fries with their food all the time. now being close to the school was good, but the prices were too high for junior high school kids to come in on a regular basis.

[ducky]

I think in that case it was location. the food was excellent, but they ran a lunch model restaurant in a space that was too small, so they couldn't get the volume of costumers they needed to make the rent. Chez Daniel is doing GREAT there, but they cater to dinner service, a few more tables, but a much higher per diner rate. charge more and you need less volume. its all in the business model.

urban dog wasn't so great. the three times I went there, my bun was so steamed it fell apart before I could eat it. and the sides weren't that great either. the coleslaw was inconsistently either too horseradishy hot or too bland. not everyone wants fries or other fatty fries with their food all the time. now being close to the school was good, but the prices were too high for junior high school kids to come in on a regular basis.

I think eVader was referring to El Rey, which was there before Urban Dog opened. They had good food.

[john]

Location is everything for a small business. If you are tucked away in a strip mall or away from a high trafficked area, it could make you or break you.<BR>Location, location, location. Chains can survive because they have the benefit of brand recognition and lower costs. For a small business, you have to establish a "brand", and you have to pay more for food. Just a fact. <BR><BR>I have seen far too many small restaurants fail, and a lot of times the quality of food was great. Sometimes they just can't make it in an obscure location. Sometimes their rent was too high to sustain. All I know is I admire anyone willing to give a restaurant a go - it's a very rough business.

[asbestoshills]

Goodfellas wasn't good and it was dirty and kids ran the place. It was like eating spaghetti at home for three xs and Express Gourmet wasn't gourmet and was really a hamburger/sandwich place at best. The food is lacking at all of these places. Lots of places have bad locations but still stay open-Mr. Pickles, Emperor's Garden, Chilis, Mel's , Dos Coyotes, etc. It's the food. Most people I know would love to get off work and go through a healthy drive-thru. Think lean meat, an organic veggie, rice and organic fruit cup. Trust me if it was fast, clean and even moderately priced I think people would pay for it. Also, family dinners would do well, Fajitas tacos for four with the fixins organic meat and beans, etc.

[cw68]

Goodfellas wasn't good and it was dirty and kids ran the place. It was like eating spaghetti at home for three xs and Express Gourmet wasn't gourmet and was really a hamburger/sandwich place at best. The food is lacking at all of these places. Lots of places have bad locations but still stay open-Mr. Pickles, Emperor's Garden, Chilis, Mel's , Dos Coyotes, etc. It's the food. Most people I know would love to get off work and go through a healthy drive-thru. Think lean meat, an organic veggie, rice and organic fruit cup. Trust me if it was fast, clean and even moderately priced I think people would pay for it. Also, family dinners would do well, Fajitas tacos for four with the fixins organic meat and beans, etc.

Omg. Chili's as an example of good food? It's a good brand and good marketing. Just like Cheesecake Factory. You harp on food quality, sodium and such yet worship Cheesecake Factory which is, as a chain, probably the worst in terms of nutrition and portion size.

Goodfellas was excellent. Gourmet Express was express and was good for express. I still miss both of those. Their monthly costs did them in and the newer tenants don't have the same overhead.

People in these here parts go for the familiar over the good. That's the bottom line. That's the way of America.