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[Robert Giacometti]

But you dare not touch that Oak Tree in Briggs Ranch in the same condition without first "buying" it before you are allowed to remove it. Odd huh? Blackmail buy the city pretty much.

Oak trees are protected under a city ordinance.

Does anyone remember all the Oak trees that were removed in Empire Ranch by a contractor? I seem to recall that penalty was a pittance compared to what each of us would pay.

I wonder if we will see any trees being removed from S50 or have any already been removed?

[folsom500]

Oak trees are protected under a city ordinance.

Does anyone remember all the Oak trees that were removed in Empire Ranch by a contractor? I seem to recall that penalty was a pittance compared to what each of us would pay.

I wonder if we will see any trees being removed from S50 or have any already been removed?

I seem to remember hearing that in the 90s and on the 'mitigation' FEE was $10,000 per tree for the developers. Not much as they just add it into the price of the house.

on SO50- I have not seen any trees down nor any marked for removal - YET --

Would be nice to have a satellite picture of the area with the plan overdrawn on it so we can see which areas they will be removing trees.

[supermom]

the tailings are not the problem. grey pines are known as widow makers because the limbs can break and also because they drop the big heavy cones without warning.

p.s. "digger" pine is not the best term to use, since "digger" is considered a derogatory term.

I find widow maker to be a derogatory word

[tessieca]

"Digger" Williams (spouse of Folsom Chamber's Sharon Williams) has been around Folsom forever! He likes the name.

[olivia]

From a couple of sources :
Digger Indians
term indiscriminately applied to many Native Americans of the central plateau region of W North America, including tribes in Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Nevada, and central California. The name is supposedly derived from the fact that they dug roots for food. It has no ethnological significance and was a term of opprobrium.

op·pro·bri·um/əˈprōbrēəm/
Noun:
Harsh criticism or censure.
The public disgrace arising from someone's shameful conduct.
Synonyms:
shame - disgrace - dishonour - dishonor - ignominy

So, to dig is to be disgraceful, to be shameful. Is this an historic attribution on a more current (and perhaps a more PC) reaction to the word?

[supermom]

So, to dig is to be disgraceful, to be shameful. Is this an historic attribution on a more current (and perhaps a more PC) reaction to the word?

yes. just like bagger.

absolutely do not say the word. even if used to connote an entirely different meaning. You will be put on ignore or treated as a villian by MYFOLSOM people.

[The Average Joe]

So, to dig is to be disgraceful, to be shameful. Is this an historic attribution on a more current (and perhaps a more PC) reaction to the word?

Haven't you heard? To make your way through the world by the sweat of your brow is disgraceful. And being on your knees implies servitude and humility both of which are frowned upon in today's society (Although interestingly, both are an integral part of all religions).
You can thank "progress" for the nannying of our language and history.

[4thgenFolsomite]

hey, I'm just saying that if you are talking to any native americans, you should be aware they aren't keen on the use of that word. The term "digger indian" was used as a derogatory term and the tree is named after them. Sounds alot like the N word, I suppose, and I think the old timers knew it. You may say its PC, I'm just letting you know the facts.

And Digger Williams got his name because he was the grave digger at the cemetery, has nothing to do with the tree or local Indians. He and his wife are great people too. Folsom classics.

[Inwit]

I've never met a tree that took offense to being called a Digger Pine.

[the_professor]

What about the digger pines at Negro Bar?

[4thgenFolsomite]

What about the digger pines at Negro Bar?

last time I checked, Negro was not a derogatory word.

[Inwit]

last time I checked, Negro was not a derogatory word.

negro - spanish for black
blanca - spanish for white
rose - spanish for red
verde - spanish for green
azul - spanish for blue
amarillo - spanish for yellow

[the_professor]

negro - spanish for black
blanca - spanish for white
rose - spanish for red
verde - spanish for green
azul - spanish for blue
amarillo - spanish for yellow

I'll keep this in mind next time I visit Amarillo Town in San Francisco.

[Inwit]

I'll keep this in mind next time I visit Amarillo Town in San Francisco.

I don't know about any "Amarillo Town in San Francisco", but I did find a Thai Town in Amarillo, Texas.