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#16 Chad Vander Veen

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 11:31 AM

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 02:36 PM

Here is an article that discusses the police reports for the shooting. The report says Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose and back of head and that he was yelling for help.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 04:47 PM

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Michelle Malkin issued an apology after she was duped into believing the guy on the right was Trayvon Martin and she posted it on her website. It is not him.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 06:32 PM

That is unfortunate, as a comparison between the two photos of Zimmerman would have been more effective anyway. Still, a bad photoshop does not alter the way the media has gone nuts with this...but you sure diminish the message when you use inaccuracies to make your point...sigh.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:41 AM

Michelle Malkin issued an apology after she was duped into believing the guy on the right was Trayvon Martin and she posted it on her website. It is not him.


Ah, good to know the facts.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 11:29 AM

Ah, good to know the facts.

Or you could use the photo of Trayvon from his twitter account.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 01:19 PM

There's also a story out of Palmdale, CA that 7 black kids severely beat an hispanic boy and it didn't get any national news coverage that I've seen. Hate crimes are only covered if they are between white and insert race here it seems. Racism comes from every race and ethnicity, and it seems in America we just can't overcome it even with laws.



IMHO diversification of races can not be done quickly, as governments would like or even as some races would like. People tend to think a few hundred years is a long time, but in the over view of the history of man, it’s not.

People must be ready to adjust and adapt, but as we have seen from recent years, most do not.
Change is the hardest of things for most cultures to adapt to and they don’t do it well.

In this country there is a lot of hate among the races, along with blame that just doesn’t end, even though much time has passed since the deeds they refer to.

The behavior of those living in any society will reflect the level of adjustment to that society and the demands placed upon them.

By the numbers in our prisons and the races which make up the majority in prison, one can clearly see the facts that diversification does not work on a short time line. I think it would be more probable in a thousand years, not the short amount of time we’ve been at it in the United States. There is also evidence of this fact in other countries as well, as we now see.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 01:34 PM

Here is a link to the 911 calls in the case.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 02:07 PM

IMHO diversification of races can not be done quickly, as governments would like or even as some races would like. People tend to think a few hundred years is a long time, but in the over view of the history of man, it’s not.

People must be ready to adjust and adapt, but as we have seen from recent years, most do not.
Change is the hardest of things for most cultures to adapt to and they don’t do it well.

In this country there is a lot of hate among the races, along with blame that just doesn’t end, even though much time has passed since the deeds they refer to.

The behavior of those living in any society will reflect the level of adjustment to that society and the demands placed upon them.

By the numbers in our prisons and the races which make up the majority in prison, one can clearly see the facts that diversification does not work on a short time line. I think it would be more probable in a thousand years, not the short amount of time we’ve been at it in the United States. There is also evidence of this fact in other countries as well, as we now see.

I had trouble figuring out how this here post related to the hispanic killing but again I don't know what IMHO means.

I can say in the life of the old soldier treatment of all races has gotten better but you still have red necks and in spite of what is being denied there are black folks wearing hoodies doing bad things.

The prisons might be a place to sort it all out since you have folks in there that are white suprimists , black power folks and hispanic gang bangers. They might let them sort things out in the yard, like our principal in school used to tell us to sort it out in the playground. they could video the interaction and the money could be returned to the prisons so prisnors could buy more candy and gum and maybe even hire entertainers to put on concerts

If old zimmerman ends up in prison he probably wouldn't be allowed to participate in the "prison games"

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 02:10 PM

I've been reading more on the case.

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There are some things I don't quite get. The area where Trayvon was shot is called a gated community. When I think of a gated community I think of something walled where the only access is through a coded gate. The pictures I saw looked like an apartment complex that apparently anybody can walk through.

This article shows the location of the various events. This is a townhouse community which is not fully fenced. Trayvon Martin was staying within this same community. George Zimmerman lived there too.

I'm also very suspicious of the analysis of the screams heard on the 911 tape. How accurate can that type of analysis be if they don't have sample voices from the two parties involved? Isn't is just guess work at that point?

The audio expert used George Zimmerman's 911 call to compare to the screaming heard on another 911 call. His analysis says there is a 48% change it was Zimmerman. There are apparently no voice recordings of Trayvon to analyze.

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I don't put too much stock in the leaks coming out now since much of that type of stuff turns out to be inaccurate. But I'm intrigued by the rumor that the detective wanted to arrest Zimmerman for manslaughter on the night of the shooting, but the county(?) prosecutor said there just wasn't enough evidence to convict.

This assertion that the detective wanted to press for manslaughter charges the night of the shooting came from a Martin family lawyer. State Attorney Norm Wolfinger says the meeting where this was alleged to have occurred never happened.



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Posted 04 April 2012 - 02:13 PM

Or you could use the photo of Trayvon from his twitter account.


What a sweetheart

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:17 PM

I don't know what IMHO means.

IMHO - In My Humble Opinion

IMNSHO - In My Not So Humble Opinion

IMO - In My Opinion (I prefer this one, it's short & sweet, and I don't understand the need to claim whether an Opinion is a humble one or not)
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:37 PM

Here is an article that discusses the police reports for the shooting. The report says Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose and back of head and that he was yelling for help.


My heart goes out to the parents, family and friends of Trayvon. I just can't imagine the pain and anguish they are going through searching for answers! IMO, the parents probably should get lots of leeway in anything they say or do for awhile.

However, the others, who are talking out their arse saying things without having the facts, need to be dealt with appropriately! Mr Jacksons' comments in this article are nothing more than trying to fan the flames of race. Clearly there is a huge discrepancy between what Mr Jackson is saying and what the police report indicates what was done. Being an openminded person I'm not going to jump to conclusions about whose version may be right or wrong, because that will eventually come out in the end.

Part of me is willing to give President Obama the benefit of the doubt that his comments were intended to reach out to the family in their time of sorrow. On the other hand, this isn't the first time he has expressed a belief about an issue involving race where he didn't have all the facts, before making his comments.

If at the end of the investigation its determined that Zimmerman did have leghal ground to defend himself and if its determined that the police handled everything appropriately, I wonder if Mr Jackson will retract his commnets and APOLOGIZE to the police department and wonder in President Obama will retract his commments as well.

I'm also wondering if the mainstream media will hold Mr Jackson's feet to the fire for his inciting the flames with his statements or will they simply look the other way?




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