36 replies to this topic

[andy]

If you post the location info we can all look at it via Google Maps

[The Average Joe]

I looked at Google maps, and you couldn't see it. No surprise as it blend in pretty well with the curb. I did appeal, and will get a notification on the appeal in 1-6 weeks.
I also spoke to a friend of mine who is a state certified ADA compliance person. He said that it doesn't matter that the ramp is not to code (it had a partial curb at the approach rather than a smooth transition). He also said that at the last meeting he went to to discuss issues with other compliance agents, this was a huge topic. Seems cities are putting these all over the place, many in front of people's homes. Lots of irate homeowners who find the exorbitant "penalties" ridiculous. I mentioned this at an office I frequent, and one of the ladies there said they got her in front of her own house. Seems her tent trailer extended a few inches into the ramp area, so her trailer got the ticket. Bottom line, it's a cash grab by the cities...
Here is a link to what the ramp looks like:

http://www.flickr.co...ass/8598567157/
And here is similar to what you see on approach:
http://www.flickr.co...ass/8598567215/

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

It's time to Call Curtis! http://sacramento.cb...ow/call-kurtis/

[ducky]

Those photos certainly show the problem. They don't even look like ramps and I'm wondering if the people they are meant for would even be able to find them, especially at dusk. If they did find them, it seems a hazard to have someone in a wheelchair come out from between parked cars into the street. They need to either put signs or paint them or put those bumpy yellow-dotted things on them.

It does appear to be a cash grab.

[TruthSeeker]

I looked at Google maps, and you couldn't see it. No surprise as it blend in pretty well with the curb. I did appeal, and will get a notification on the appeal in 1-6 weeks.
I also spoke to a friend of mine who is a state certified ADA compliance person. He said that it doesn't matter that the ramp is not to code (it had a partial curb at the approach rather than a smooth transition). He also said that at the last meeting he went to to discuss issues with other compliance agents, this was a huge topic. Seems cities are putting these all over the place, many in front of people's homes. Lots of irate homeowners who find the exorbitant "penalties" ridiculous. I mentioned this at an office I frequent, and one of the ladies there said they got her in front of her own house. Seems her tent trailer extended a few inches into the ramp area, so her trailer got the ticket. Bottom line, it's a cash grab by the cities...
Here is a link to what the ramp looks like:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/heavyglass/8598567157/
And here is similar to what you see on approach:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/heavyglass/8598567215/

I get it now, so if a city puts hashmarks in the cement, they can charge $400+ for anyone who parks anywhere even remotely near it. They really should be required to paint the curb blue as a warning. This is a total scam and a class action law suit should be started against the cities and the AMA for creating these corrupt money sucking scams.

That wasn't even a ramp, it was just a rolled curb with hashmarks put on it to scam people out of money

[supermom]

ADA states it has to be clearly designated as a handicap parking or handicap entrance before a person can be fined for impeding it.

If there arent any street signs and no obvious painted curb then a driver would not be able to see that. I wouldnt tow you if you were in that spot

[The Average Joe]

Hehe, I just had to vent, so I created a little video:

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

Check out this story! http://sacramento.cb...-i-was-at-work/

[ducky]

Average Joe, did you check for wet cement?
Not very encouraging when this guy can prove the sign wasn't there and they still didn't waive the ticket.

[The Average Joe]

I once got a ticket from Sac City. The ticket was under my windshield wiper....ON TOP of my 200.00 permit to park in the space where I was parking. I had a photo that showed them both together. I was right in front of the address that was on the permit. I guess we don't pay these people to think...we just pay, and pay, and pay. Paying for parking is such bs anyway.

[The Average Joe]

Just received my answer to my written appeal. Ticket is upheld. I may request a "face to face" hearing (they don't state where), but I have to pay the fine PRIOR to having the hearing. What a load of bs. Boy, I wish I were an attorney. There seems to be so many flaws in this system that I could argue...

What a scam.

[folsom500]

Have to agree with on this one. Total BS - How could anyone decipher that that was an ADA ramp- especially since it had the normal rolled edge.
Did you send photos with your written appeal ?
If you have not - might want to Call Kurtis and see if he will feature this.

Hope you appeal it further.

[Deb aka Resume Lady]

Call Kurtis! Minimally the public needs to be made aware of this, but he might also make some progress on your behalf.

[Darth Lefty]

Just received my answer to my written appeal. Ticket is upheld. I may request a "face to face" hearing (they don't state where), but I have to pay the fine PRIOR to having the hearing.

Did this process change? It used to be for traffic tickets, when doing trial by written declaration, you would send in the fine as bail in the first place.

[The Average Joe]

Tried call Kurtis...no response. Submitted my second layer appeal and had a non-biased third party (law student from McGeorge) look at my case today. She appeared to be leaning in my favor. I think my photos were pretty compelling (I took a few more than I originally posted). I'll know in a couple weeks for sure. Fingers crossed.

Found out that the third party based in San Diego is only a paperwork processor, and does not do the first layer appeals, or the ticketing. That is the Sac Co Sheriffs job. All money collected appears to go to the Sheriffs except for the processing portion by Sac Co Cite.