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#16 Steve Heard

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:21 AM

seriously though, how does a fire start in a roof? I cant imagine it being lint as someone suggested. its a two story house. the vent would come off a wall and vent outside the house. I could see maybe a fireplace but then, its not really cold enough the other day. I imagine it could be electrical, but that would be incredibly bad luck. That house looks close to new. I saw in the news that the firemen had to pull back on trying to save the house, at one point, because of exploding ammunition. That's bad luck. Well, regardless, it must be truly devastating to the family that owns that home. I hope they will be able to rebuild. Such a beautiful home.


Many homes, including mine, have a dryer vent which goes up through the roof instead of out to the side or down.

Gravity can cause the lint to fall back and stick to the sides and bottom. Bad idea.

Also, many folks have their furncace in the attic, and that can start a fire as well.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:24 AM

Was that even a 2 story house? Looks like a single story from the pics. Also heard that there were only 2 young kids at home when it started. Lots of conflicting information.


You might be right. I'm not sure. Same principle, though. See Steve's post.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:04 AM

Looks like a wood shake roof. It may not take much to start that on fire.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:39 AM

In this hot climate, a wood-shake roof is like solid gasoline. I don't know if this roof had treated shingles, but it doesn't look like it from the extent of damage. And if the fire did start on the roof or attic, the smoke would rise upwards and may not enter the house and set off the smoke detectors.
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:52 AM

Anyone know the house number on Rockport ?


Looks like it might be 478 Rockport Circle
http://www.zillow.co.../25880840_zpid/

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:33 AM

After the investigations are complete some of the guesses on the cause may be way off. But don't want to throw out speculation right now.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:43 AM

i didnt even consider the idea there might be a laundry room on the second floor. Thats a good point. You know another thing i was wondering is if a whole house fan could have been the problem. or an air conditioning unit. maybe faulty wiring. still not sure if the wiring would be near the roof or attic. (im just thinking of things that might be a source of fire- dont think im thinking any of these could actually be THE actual problem).

@nomad, at least part of the house looks like a two story. it could just be high ceilings and roofing. The archways were very elegant from the pictures. I would have to go back and look at the pictures to tell if it wasnt a two story. my initial take is that it was a partial, though. But even it is a single story, with those high ceilings i imagine there was a fake ceiling placed in there for the fans and electrical conduits, and vents. It is my understanding that most of that space is used of rthat purpose unless an actual sotarage area labelled attic is designed into the interior roofing section.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:43 AM

Slightly more information on the Folsom Telegraph website..
http://www.folsomtel...stimated-450000

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:52 AM

Slightly more information on the Folsom Telegraph website..
http://www.folsomtel...stimated-450000


That article is blocked.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 01:24 PM

You have to answer questions to get stories on The Telegraph now. Here's the body of the story:
FOLSOM, CA - Firefighters from the City of Folsom Fire Department, Sacramento Metropolitan Fire District and El Dorado Hills Fire Department responded Monday to a two-alarm structure fire inside a six-bedroom, 3,700-square-foot home at 478 Rockport Circle in Folsom. A total of seven engine companies, three truck companies, one paramedic ambulance, and three chief officers were dispatched to the scene.
An alert neighbor first discovered the fire and immediately contacted the occupants of the home. At the time the fire was reported, it was occupied by four family members. All were able to evacuate from the home without injury. Two family pets were also able to be safely evacuated from the home, according to officials.
Firefighters from Folsom Fire Station 38 arrived approximately six minutes after receiving the first 9-1-1 call to find the wood shake shingle roof approximately 30-percent involved in fire. The fire was spreading rapidly throughout the remainder of the roof. Firefighters immediately began an offensive fire attack to prevent the spread of the fire into the remaining areas of the home but were driven out when the roof began to fail and collapse into the home. Firefighters then resorted to conducting defensive fireground operations using aerial master streams and hose lines to keep the fire from spreading to nearby homes, according to officials.
During the course of the fire burning embers from the fire landed on an adjacent home’s wood shake shingle roof causing it to briefly ignite a small section before being extinguished by firefighters.
The fire was fully contained within 90 minutes of the original dispatch, according to fire department officials.
The cause of the fire is still under investigation. There were no injuries as a result of this fire. Damage is estimated at approximately $450,000.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 01:50 PM

so, just out of curiousity: are there any ordinances or rules or something that certain geographic locations must build with or not with certain types of roofing shingles?

Honestly, when a fire does get that hot, would it really make a difference?

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 02:39 PM

In Folsom, it looks like shaked roofs are allowed, but they must be treated with class C flame retardant: https://www.folsom.c...px?BlobID=15239
More on roofing fire resistance here: http://firecenterbet...mg/roof-1.html

Shaked roofs have a relatively low ignition temperature compared to asphalt composition roofs, so it is easier for a fire to start on those roofs. To me, the fire damage on a shaked roof home always looks worse than one with asphalt shingles. But if a very hot fire originated inside the house, then I don't think the type of roof material will make much of a difference.
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 02:56 PM

In Folsom, it looks like shaked roofs are allowed, but they must be treated with class C flame retardant: https://www.folsom.c...px?BlobID=15239
More on roofing fire resistance here: http://firecenterbet...mg/roof-1.html

Shaked roofs have a relatively low ignition temperature compared to asphalt composition roofs, so it is easier for a fire to start on those roofs. To me, the fire damage on a shaked roof home always looks worse than one with asphalt shingles. But if a very hot fire originated inside the house, then I don't think the type of roof material will make much of a difference.


Thanks for the answer. I know when I was a kid and lived in the forests we got our roof asphalt covered then had ( adobe, I think?) tiles put on. They said it was a better fire prevention from tree top embers during a forrest fire. Im not sure how much of folsom would have to worry about that, though

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 03:05 PM

We don't have much worry about forest fires here in town, but I'd be a little more nervous if I lived next to an open field. Also, the Telegraph article mentioned that embers from the burning house drifted onto the neighbor's roof and started a small fire there. If it had been very windy yesterday, that neighbor's house might have been lost too. So IMHO, I would not want a shaked roof no matter where I lived.

Thanks for the answer. I know when I was a kid and lived in the forests we got our roof asphalt covered then had ( adobe, I think?) tiles put on. They said it was a better fire prevention from tree top embers during a forrest fire. Im not sure how much of folsom would have to worry about that, though


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 03:16 PM

Shake roofs are for medieval huts in snowy gnome and hobbit inhabited forests.
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