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[Chris]

From West Hollywood, of all places (yes, the one in California!!):

 

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Fantastic....!   Gadsten Rainbow flag....   I may have to get me one of those on a shirt....!   Chris

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Joe,  I had time to do a little research.  Found an article in the Washington Post (your favorite lefty news rag) that offered some instances where an armed citizen appeared to have stopped a mass shooting incident.  So, you're right.  It does happen.  I just wonder how many times an armed citizen chooses not to intervene.  There's no way to determine this, however.

 

Here's a question for you (Joe).  You suggest that citizens should have equivalent firepower capability to engage the "bad guys".  Since the Boston bombers did their dirty deed with pressure cooker bombs, would the pro-firearms folks push to make possession of bombs legal?  And if some terror guy uses an RPG (it could happen), will the NRA lobby the gov't to allow ownership of RPG's?  Where should the line be drawn?

 

Another comment - all this talk from the conservatives and republicans about conceding on background checks is total BS (IMHO).  It's an election year!  Politicians will say anything to garner votes.   They will talk about tightening background checks (but won't do anything) all the way up to election day.  And the day after the election, all talk about better background checks will be flushed down the toilet.  Watch it happen.

 

I'll say it again...After Sandy Hook, citizens overwhelmingly supported better background checks. Our duly elected officials did nothing.  Do you think your vote counts?  I promise you it doesn't.

 

Finally,  I wish both sides in this argument would channel their energies into productive solutions.  When these things happen, both sides retreat into their respective corners and start yelling at the other side..."We have to ban guns"  vs  "Don't touch my guns".  WHEN are these people going to grow up?  Terrorism is a very serious problem that will require clever and serious solutions.  Neither side understands the root problem, nor are they offering any solutions.  It's very frustrating.  

[2 Aces]

The leftist anti-2A whiners need to get a life.

If the Muslim scumbag that shot up the Orlando gay bar doesn't represent all Muslims, then why does he represent all gun owners?

Does that question confuse the leftists? If so, read it again. Pretty simple question.

Or does that go against your radical leftist (progressive) agenda?

[ghost35me]

Ted Cruz -- addressing the shameful behavior of Dem filibuster after Orlando.

 

[GrumpyOldGuy]

If the Muslim scumbag that shot up the Orlando gay bar doesn't represent all Muslims, then why does he represent all gun owners?

 

Aces - I'm a little surprised.  You've actually posed a thoughtful question.  

 

I'll turn that question inside out a little bit and ask you:

 

If Mr. Trump wants to ban all Muslims, shouldn't he also want to ban all firearms?

[2 Aces]

Thanks for posting the Ted Cruz video. Ted Cruz is a statesman, which is great, but Trump says what's on everybody's mind with ZERO *political correctness* filter, which is refreshing.

Americans should pay close attention to Socialist/Leftist France. Paris, a once beautiful city, has been overrun and destroyed by ONE group.....Muslims. Everyone in America thinks it's "unspeakable" to single these people out, but just look at all the evidence that says otherwise. It is ugly, but necessary.

The world is at war, and Muslims ARE the enemy. How many innocent people will have to die before the "politically correct" wake up ? The left tells us "not all Muslims are radical", which may be true, however, can you tell them apart ? There's only one way to be safe, and that's a complete ban on Muslim immigration like Trump has said. They have destroyed their own homeland, and are looking for new countries to rape and pillage.

How far should political correctness go? Are you willing to give your life, and your family's lives to appease these people, many of whom are simply radical Islamic nutjobs?

Still laughing at the fact that the militant radical left leaders (progressives) have dumped the gays and hispanics in favor of Muslims and Islam !! Oh the irony.

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Loss of the primary race must be horribly embarrassing for Cruz.  He lost to a carnival barker.  All of them lost to a P.T. Barnum.  It's a testament to how poorly they've all done at the job of governing.  The GOP did everything in their power over the last eight years to make sure government didn't work.  Now that chicken has come home to roost.  

 

The GOP should heed the words of Pogo who once said, "We have met the enemy and he is us."

[The Average Joe]

There is no sporting or self defense use for a bomb or RPG. They are weapons of mass destruction. Your view may be that so are ARs. That's fine and we can debate the merits of that argument.

 

You are aware that ALL of the proposals submitted by anti gun people would have had no effect on the Orlando shooter (or generally any other wack job).

 

He passed multiple background checks. He was investigated twice by the FBI, he had to have 60 hours of weapons training and be certified. He was an American citizen. He was fingerprinted. Etc. None of that will stop a lunatic, psychopath, or sociopath. How do we profile those people? Banning one of the weapons of choice for him would not have stopped him.

 

Think about this, I am a law abiding, reasonably upstanding, husband, father, coach, businessman and community member. A model citizen if you will. Yet, with a few calls, I could easily purchase a gun illegally. I'm sure the same could be said for drugs, or any illegal item. The only barricade is time and money.  I CHOOSE not to be involved in illegal activity because of my values and moral compass.  Were I a sociopath, all normal restrictions good people place upon oneself would be gone. Those are the people we have to worry about. Not some Average Joe's gun purchase.

[Chris]

Please no more Ted Cruz videos...............    He a bit on the long side of crazy...........    Just my opinion.....   Now Hillary, way on the long side of crazy but yet the press does not see it, does not report, stays silent on this evil one......   She's a "woman" and must be made "President".   God help us if this happens........!   Chris

[GrumpyOldGuy]

"God help us if this happens.......!"

 

Didn't consvs say this about Obama about 8 years ago?   It appears the only crowd going down the toilet after eight years of Obama are the GOP.  Again, they seem to be their own worst enemy IMHO.

[2 Aces]

What happens when you have a career politician with the goal of controlling the populace thru Socialism, and then that same politician takes away the right to own a gun?? You have a place like Rio, where violent crime is *literally* out of control and the country is seemingly in the control of gangs. Amazing story below.

Just remember that when some of you loons vote for Hillary.


http://www.dailymail...mes-Brazil.html