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Poll: Are you in favor of the proposed mosque in Folsom? (148 member(s) have cast votes)

Are you in favor of the proposed mosque in Folsom?

  1. YES, I welcome it in our community (119 votes [62.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.96%

  2. NO, I do not welcome it in our community (49 votes [25.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.93%

  3. I haven't decided (21 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

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#346 jetsetter

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 07:37 AM

Hello. I came here for one reason and one reason alone. To address the issue of the new mosque in Folsom. I would like my opinion heard. I believe it should be built. The people building it have the right to build a place of worship for themselves. It is no different than a new church being built and I see no people protesting churches. I can assure you nothing bad will happen if the mosque is built. The people have a right as Americans to built there mosque. It seems that some of you are forgetting that. The design is nice looking in my opinion and it should be built. Before anyone says anything, I am not Muslim and was born right here in California. The people protesting the mosque should be ashamed of themselves.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE(jetsetter @ Aug 27 2005, 08:37 AM)
Hello.  I came here for one reason and one reason alone.  To address the issue of the new mosque in Folsom.  I would like my opinion heard.  I believe it should be built.  The people building it have the right to build a place of worship for themselves.  It is no different than a new church being built and I see no people protesting churches.  I can assure you nothing bad will happen if the mosque is built.  The people have a right as Americans to built there mosque.  It seems that some of you are forgetting that.  The design is nice looking in my opinion and it should be built.  Before anyone says anything, I am not Muslim and was born right here in California.  The people protesting the mosque should be ashamed of themselves.

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Jet,

I agree, and welcome to MyFolsom! Though you're here for one reason now, I hope you stick around.

People are scaring themselves over the bad things that would happen if this mosque is built. Let's think about the bad things that will happen if it isn't built:

First of all, this would do nothing to help Folsom's image as an uptight community of snobs. Also, we will have allowed ourselves to be governed by fear of the worst case scenario, and by hatred of the different (whether that's different religions or different architectural styles or different paint colors - take your pick). I think we'd be losing what could be a huge educational and cultural resource in this town.

You gotta remember - terrorists *want* do drive a wedge between the west and the muslim world, and they want us to be afraid. If you want to p*ss off the bad guys, then building and welcoming this mosque is a good start.
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:17 AM

QUOTE(Farley @ Aug 27 2005, 08:30 AM)
Yes, it refers to myfolsom.com which is a good thing.  Then it takes off on the "wackos" who live here an oppose the mosque.

The article does enlighten the public about most of our innocent posts on myforum, but then takes a negative turn about the negativity re: the mosque.

The title of the article is:  FOLSOM MOSQUE HYSTERIA
                                  A Few Wackos give city a bad name

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considering the bee's stand on folsom residents' opposition to the low income housing and the opposition to ms. teaz, did you really expect anything different from the bee. a little jealousy on the part of bee staffers (who perhaps can't afford to live in folsom or similiar areas) may be the motivation behind the bee's stance.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:30 AM

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I like the design. It should always be the goal for city for bring in other cultures and other ideas. It adds to the character of the community.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:31 AM

Totally nuts to attribute the article to jealousy on the Bee's part.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:40 AM

A church or synagogue being built would cause no concern. There are a few reasons I believe this is the case. Here is what comes to mind:

Nick Berg, Paul Johnson, September 11th, USS Cole, the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, 1998 US Embassy bombings, suicide bombing in Israel, October 12th Nightclub bombing in Bali, 2002 bombing of a Tel Aviv night club and last but not least the recent sucide bombings in London. These are just the items that come to mind as I sit here writing. I'm sure a little internet research would dig up much more.

Granted, every religion has a random wacko who bombs or shoots up an abortion clinic but there is no other religious group responsible for the number of terrorist acts and death across the globe.

As a nation we want peace. We want to live our lives and with the belief that if we are kind to others they will be kind to us. Sadly, this is not the way much of the world operates.

I'm not against the Mosque being built as I work with Muslims who have proven to be kind and caring people.

However, I understand peoples fears and reservations. I also believe that nobody should fail to question this Mosque for fear of being deemed politically incorrect or "un-American". The sad truth is there are people in this world who would kill us not because of who we are or what we believe but simply because of where we live and the ideology they were taught.



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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:44 AM

If you really look at history you will see that the Christian faith has killed many. First, the Crusades. Before the crusades the idea of the jihad was old and no muslim too notice. The Crusades brought the jihad back and every since then it had never gone wway.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:46 AM

QUOTE(Farley @ Aug 27 2005, 09:31 AM)
Totally nuts to attribute the article to jealousy on the Bee's part.

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I think you're nuts if you don't realize the Bee is a liberal-loving left-wing rag. Too bad it's the only paper here locally.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:49 AM

QUOTE(Al Waysrite @ Aug 27 2005, 09:17 AM)
considering the bee's stand on folsom residents' opposition to the low income housing and the opposition to ms. teaz, did you really expect anything different from the bee.  a little jealousy on the part of bee staffers (who perhaps can't afford to live in folsom or similiar areas) may be the motivation behind the bee's stance.

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I think you'd be surprised how many Bee staffers live in Folsom.
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:56 AM

QUOTE(Al Waysrite @ Aug 27 2005, 08:17 AM)
considering the bee's stand on folsom residents' opposition to the low income housing and the opposition to ms. teaz, did you really expect anything different from the bee.  a little jealousy on the part of bee staffers (who perhaps can't afford to live in folsom or similiar areas) may be the motivation behind the bee's stance.

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Hmmm....I thought they were just reporting the news. You're not suggesting that they should have ignored those stories, are you?

The low-income housing debate is a real one, and newsworthy. Many people are opposed to it, regardless of what the law says.

The Ms. Teaz issue was a real hornet's nest, and much of the notoriety came from groups opposed to it, who sent letters and press releases out. One example was the one where they described Sutter St as a guaint, family oriented street lined with doll houses and ice cream shops, soon to be invaded by pornography and perverts.

Now, people are opposing a mosque, the plans, permits and design of which have been before the public for years. Now that it's approved, people are up in arms about it. I can understand some people's fears. Yes, most of the world's terrorism is caused by muslims and yes, in our country, muslims are free to build places of worship.

The Bee's job is to report the news, and they've done so.

Because they don't share the narrow views of some does not mean they have it in for Folsom.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:57 AM

As a Folsom resident of over 20 years, I am disgusted by the objections of so many residents to the proposed Moslem Mosque. I am not Arabic, nor a member of the Islam faith. I am a white, middle aged, Jewish background male, who finds this entire situation deplorable.

This nation was founded upon religious freedom. I am sure that if a Protestant church was proposed for construction in Folsom, it would be welcomed as an asset to the community.

In this time of hysteria, let's keep in mind that Islam, like all religions have bad people. I have traveled in the Mideast and been invited into Mosques. I know many Arabic people and find them to be fine upstanding citizens, ashamed of the acts that a small minority of Moslems of done.

Should we stop all construction of future churches because at one time during the Crusades, the members of many of those churches butchered thousands of innocent people in the name of capturing the Holy Land? Of course not. Were all the Japanese who were interned during World War II guilty of aiding Japan? Of course not.

As long as the Mosque is built to local building codes, has the proper permits, and does not become a problem area, it should be welcomed.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:58 AM

With the current terrorism tide, Folsom has no business catering to the muslims, plain and simple. If they need their precious mosque so badly, well hit the road and build it elsewhere, but not here. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 09:00 AM

QUOTE(K Rat @ Aug 27 2005, 08:58 AM)
With the current terrorism tide, Folsom has no business catering to the muslims, plain and simple. If they need their precious mosque so badly, well hit the road and build it elsewhere, but not here. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

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If you feel that way, then you should leave. We don't need someone like you here. According to you then we should stop catering to Christians. I say no more Churches should be built. You want them built, go somewhere else.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 09:01 AM

Didn't see a link to that editorial, so here it is.

http://www.sacbee.co...-14319807c.html
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE(mark mitchell @ Aug 27 2005, 09:57 AM)
As a Folsom resident of over 20 years, I am disgusted by the objections of so many residents to the proposed Moslem Mosque.  I am not Arabic, nor a member of the Islam faith.  I am a white, middle aged, Jewish background male, who finds this entire situation deplorable. 

This nation was founded upon religious freedom.  I am sure that if a Protestant church was proposed for construction in Folsom, it would be welcomed as an asset to the community. 

In this time of hysteria, let's keep in mind that Islam, like all religions have bad people.  I have traveled in the Mideast and been invited into Mosques.  I know many Arabic people and find them to be fine upstanding citizens, ashamed of the acts that a small minority of Moslems of done. 

Should we stop all construction of future churches because at one time during the Crusades, the members of many of those churches butchered thousands of innocent people in the name of capturing the Holy Land?  Of course not.  Were all  the Japanese who were interned during World War II guilty of aiding Japan?  Of course not.

As long as the Mosque is built to local building codes, has the proper permits, and does not become a problem area, it should be welcomed.

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We are in total agreement with you Mark. Although we have only lived in Folsom for eleven years, we find the snobbery and discrimination growing as fast as the city.




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