Ms. Teaz: Lingerie Shop on Sutter Street
#391
Posted 22 October 2004 - 09:43 AM
#392
Posted 22 October 2004 - 09:43 AM
Too bad I can't find one that superimposes the increased government waste, etc. on it.
What's the link to the chart?
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#394
Posted 22 October 2004 - 09:48 AM
Thanks to Steve and Hirsch for bringing up the liquor stores with porn. Since I never go into them, I wouldn't have known. Since I DO feel that it's inappropriate (for middle school kids to be shopping in there and seeing that) and believe it should be changed, this information will lead me to start looking into that... probably the other like-minded posters will be interested in doing the same. So you see guys, it's not lack of concern, but lack of information, many times, that keeps us from pursuing similar issues.
Like I said before, you can't convince me that we should add more of something bad just because we already have a lot of it.

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#395
Posted 22 October 2004 - 09:48 AM
Too bad I can't find one that superimposes the increased government waste, etc. on it.
What's the link to the chart?
It's on Harry Browne's site at http://www.harrybrow...tarianOffer.htm
I took it off my sig line, it's just TOO big.
#397
Posted 22 October 2004 - 09:56 AM
#398
Posted 22 October 2004 - 09:58 AM
I can see it now: The Folsom Crusades...... Maybe after you go gunning for the liquor stores you can go after the supermarkets for selling Stuff Magazine, and sexually charged greeting cards, or after the clothing stores for selling provocative (?) clothing. Or even better how about any non-christian establishment that doesn't follow your beliefs? I suggest starting with the Buddist first because that whole inner peace thing is way overrated...
Wait I have a better idea, why don't the parents just prevent their children from shopping there. Oh wait that would take personnal responsibilty. They wouldn't be able to blame the establishments for corrupting the youth...... Hmmmm.....
#400
Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:01 AM
If this is still true, contact PD they typically set up routine sting operations against liquor stores to see if they sell to minors. If they sell they get fined, if it reoccurs they lose their license. Simple as PIE.
As for the signiture, I liked the other one better...
#401
Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:03 AM
Wait I have a better idea, why don't the parents just prevent their children from shopping there. Oh wait that would take personnal responsibilty. They wouldn't be able to blame the establishments for corrupting the youth...... Hmmmm.....
#402
Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:04 AM
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#403
Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:13 AM
I dont' believe that for one bit. It is about Christian beliefs being pushed on all within the community. The whole topic is, whether it is a Lingerie store or a liquor store. The whole "I don't believe in drinking, smoking, pornography, or even sexy evening wear so it must be wrong and nobody should have it" belief.
The point I was trying to make is that it becomes a push of beliefs instead of simple acceptance of responsibility. If you don't want your children to watch R rated movies, don't let them. If you don't want them shopping at a store that sells pornography.... don't let them. If you don't want them exposed to Lingerie don't shop for it. Dont' go on some "crusade" trying to shut them down because it is not something you like. Heck I don't like Sushi, but I am not going to start pushing for the closure of all the Sushi restaurants in Folsom.
#404
Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:21 AM
'sigh'...one more time, we aren't talking about adding more of something bad.
Ms. Teaz doesn't sell porn.
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#405
Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:24 AM
The point I was trying to make is that it becomes a push of beliefs instead of simple acceptance of responsibility. If you don't want your children to watch R rated movies, don't let them. If you don't want them shopping at a store that sells pornography.... don't let them. If you don't want them exposed to Lingerie don't shop for it. Dont' go on some "crusade" trying to shut them down because it is not something you like. Heck I don't like Sushi, but I am not going to start pushing for the closure of all the Sushi restaurants in Folsom.
Two problems with your arguments:
1) Sushi and such aren't dangerous to children
2) The people who've described the conditions in these stores said that the porn magazines are not covered in any way AND out in plain sight NEAR the candy - that the middle schoolers (who are NOT WITH THEIR PARENTS at the time) are purchasing.
I can dislike the idea of porn, and still let you have it as an adult, but I CAN'T defend a store owner's right to display it in public view where kids hang out. People can't be with their teens 24/7 By the way, I also see a difference between having it in stores where it has to be specifically searched for versus having it where a kid couldn't help but notice.
So from your viewpoint, you think it's perfectly fine for anyone to see and purchase such stuff?

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