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[irish1]

Good, about time someone got on FPD's back. They tried to put me in jail and stuff for bring a US Marine, some girl hit MY car and he was blaming it on me and I was like really? And he was saying I was arguing with him, I took it to court, read the bs police report, and he didn't even show to court cause he knew it was bs. I didn't get to finish the case because I had military business.

May I begin by saying factually, that ... Being a United States Marine, is not a crime anywhere in the United States of America. Never has been, and never will be. Not even in Folsom, agreed? So, "they tried to put me in jail for being a US Marine..." is total B.S. and you, P.F.C. Steve, know it. The "arguing with him..."? I don't believe that you would be the argumentative type, Steve. Not after reading your post(s).

Next, I would offer that your day in courtmight have been only to have your pleading (of innocent, I presume), on the court record and the issuing officer was not subpoena'd for that hearing. Very doubtful he just did not feel like showing up. As for not finishing the case, and only as a gentle reminder, I would make certain that you put a priority on seeing it through to the end. The Corp, deeply frowns on their Marines that leave civilian matters unattended to. Just saying, so you don't get off on the wrong foot with the Commandant of your future post on the East Coast (Camp LeJeune..?). That would not be a good way to make an impression.

But really, FPD is the worse, they pulled me over just because I drove by a high school party. And me being 19 years of age, they assume I was there, when I was just picking up my sister.

The cop let me go when I told him I was a Marine and smoking marijuana and underage drinking with young high school kids isn't my thing.

"FPD is the worse...." Because they pulled you over as you drove by a high school party? A party where high school kids were, and by your own assumption, drinking alcohol and smoking dope? A party of underage "...young...kids..." drinking and smoking dope, and your kid sister was there? Marine, take a moment to ponder... perhaps while responding to a complaint of the (alcohol/ pot) party, the cop see's you puttin' along out front of the house. Yea, he's going to stop you. Maybe he thought you're the one who provided the booze to the underage kids? Won't know till he checks it out, right? Or maybe, since you gave the appearance of leaving the party, he wanted to check your sobriety? Or maybe, he wanted to see if you had any "young... kids..." in your car that were intoxicated and in need of medical attention. Or, perhaps since you sit tall in the seat and must appear older than a 'young high school kid(s)...,' he wanted to make sure there were no underage, intoxicated girls in your car. The one's that are so tanked, they get easily taken advantage of. Is it possible, isn't it? Due to any of these possibilities, it's probably a good thing that he contacted you - so he could find out for himself, yes?

Now, in this instance as you stated, you again informed the officer that you were a U.S. Marine? You said that you did. And, yet, that officer didn't even try to put you in jail because of your affiliation? Nice. That's more like it, ehhh?

The entire cop tazes someone story is believable to me. They have nothing better to do. If they are fat and stuff, they have been in the force for a while, but if they are in shape, they are brand new and haven't gotten to know Folsom yet and haven't discovered in N out.

Those are the ones you want to pull you over cause they aren't crooked and try to blame you for something you didn't do.

Now see P.F.C. Steve, your statement there, and others like it, is what kills your credibility. You truly 5x'd that one boot..!! Marines are honorable, proud, confident, truthful and respectful warriors. Marines, and all soldiers of the military for that matter, DO NOT GO TALKING TRASH. I hope for your sake, you learn that lesson well - and soon. Good luck with that.

[Fowler]

Thanks for posting irish1. You said what myself and most were thinking. Fortunately no one seems to be taking him seriously.

I support the police when deserved, and I support our military when deserved.

[supermom]

It's too bad-how harsh some of you are. To a private. His world has just started to open up.
Can any of you remember being that young?

I can remember being sooo proud when I was told I am no longer a maggot.

whew....it seemed so much better (and I bought into it) when I was told I am now a worm. And later graduating with distinction as a soldier.

And if you never experienced that (the military)--you don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

My point?

Well.....life has not quite settled down for this young un---just graduating from boot and home for leave ---leaves them all a tad bit disoriented.....

( some call them Jarheads--'cause the marines stuff everything they will ever need to know-into their brains, then force feed them muscles until they look like....well, a Jar or a block, or a wall...)

Anyway, I know plenty of coppers and know plenty of MP and SP. I have met folks in SWAT and met folks in SAR. They each have distinctive strengnths within their components.

One thing I can say. Youth has nothing to do with rank and responsibility in the MP and SAR. oftentimes young men are trained up and hit their prime by 24 in the army--especially in really demanding MOS--like infantry. Those that stay competitive and go seal, special forces and SAR---really I don't know the ratio or numbers but the perception is that it is rare to see them 30 or older. They get called pops.

I think it is even more so for the marines. The army caps out their requirements to pass physical fitness tests at 50. The marines at 42.

And----when you bag on cops, you might be baggin on prior marines.....ooooops.

But, I do believe him, saying he got booed by folks at the airport. I've gotten it here in town. And other places. The worst was the schools. And I do worry about that. Since my kids are almost highschool age--how that might affect them.

But---I have gotten way more support than I am often comfortable with.

And I have even had a few vets walk up to me and complain bitterly that they were never treated the way I was. If they only knew...but I still buy them a drink. Soldiers are soldiers world wide. give em a drink and all is forgiven.

FHS Steve--I can only hope the best for you. I pray that your journey as a marine and a young man will open your eyes, keep you fluid and flexible and most importantly--don't get dead.

[FHSsteve]

It's too bad-how harsh some of you are. To a private. His world has just started to open up.
Can any of you remember being that young?

I can remember being sooo proud when I was told I am no longer a maggot.

whew....it seemed so much better (and I bought into it) when I was told I am now a worm. And later graduating with distinction as a soldier.

And if you never experienced that (the military)--you don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

My point?

Well.....life has not quite settled down for this young un---just graduating from boot and home for leave ---leaves them all a tad bit disoriented.....

( some call them Jarheads--'cause the marines stuff everything they will ever need to know-into their brains, then force feed them muscles until they look like....well, a Jar or a block, or a wall...)

Anyway, I know plenty of coppers and know plenty of MP and SP. I have met folks in SWAT and met folks in SAR. They each have distinctive strengnths within their components.

One thing I can say. Youth has nothing to do with rank and responsibility in the MP and SAR. oftentimes young men are trained up and hit their prime by 24 in the army--especially in really demanding MOS--like infantry. Those that stay competitive and go seal, special forces and SAR---really I don't know the ratio or numbers but the perception is that it is rare to see them 30 or older. They get called pops.

I think it is even more so for the marines. The army caps out their requirements to pass physical fitness tests at 50. The marines at 42.

And----when you bag on cops, you might be baggin on prior marines.....ooooops.

But, I do believe him, saying he got booed by folks at the airport. I've gotten it here in town. And other places. The worst was the schools. And I do worry about that. Since my kids are almost highschool age--how that might affect them.

But---I have gotten way more support than I am often comfortable with.

And I have even had a few vets walk up to me and complain bitterly that they were never treated the way I was. If they only knew...but I still buy them a drink. Soldiers are soldiers world wide. give em a drink and all is forgiven.

FHS Steve--I can only hope the best for you. I pray that your journey as a marine and a young man will open your eyes, keep you fluid and flexible and most importantly--don't get dead.

Well thank you, I am no longer in Folsom, now back on the East coast at my duty station and proud to be out of Folsom! I can't deal with the people there being disrespectful and its my hometown, it makes me sad. Reading the PM's these folsomites are sending me, harassing and threatening is disappointing as well.

Back to the topic. I am just telling everyone what FPD did to me, I am sure I am not the only one that has been mistreated by a police officer!

[supermom]

Well thank you, I am no longer in Folsom, now back on the East coast at my duty station and proud to be out of Folsom! I can't deal with the people there being disrespectful and its my hometown, it makes me sad. Reading the PM's these folsomites are sending me, harassing and threatening is disappointing as well.

Back to the topic. I am just telling everyone what FPD did to me, I am sure I am not the only one that has been mistreated by a police officer!

I would like to point one thing out to you....

I have travelled all over the world.

Most of my travelling has been due to military movements.

And one thing I know very well....

Cops world over have come to the same conclusion about american service members..

Respect them, but always treat them with suspicion. Because American GI's do some stupid SH**!!!

Because there are a lot of military people -- and you just don't know what kinda guy joe schmoe is, until the perfect opportunity presents itself- to show his true colors.

And lots of enlisted soldiers show their true colors and get booted outta the military before they reach Sergeant.

As a soldier I was dismayed by how many soldiers get booted out for criminal activity.

As a woman soldier I learned to walk cautiously amongst other soldiers or even not at all.....

And I learned the greatest truth of all--is that the buddy system only works in the field. In day to day stuff, the buddy system is not fluid. Do not trust your "buddy" just because he's a fellow soldier in your platoon. You don't have to hang out with just squad and platoon soldiers! Get out--make friends with people in church, local interest groups..it sounds lame --- but it saves your sanity and gives you opportunities to remind yourself that you can stay true to your core beliefs..it makes it easier to come back to the civilian sector when it is time to do so...They often have a fountain of contacts to help you re adjust to a life not in uniform.

Be careful whom you befriend, if you want to make an honorable go of your service. Lots of people join up and then slide into a group of friends that takes them down the wrong path. After more than half a normal lengthed career in the military- I finally settled into a town--Folsom is my adopted hometown, now.
FHS Steve, next time you're in town, let me know. An adjustment to the civilian sector is difficult at best.

[awood]

While I agree with your sentiment, where I get concerned is being the innocent bystander that gets hit.

As an asthmatic, I would hate to be hit by pepper spray as I was walking past a group of protestors just as the LE's decide to take action.

And why would you be? C'mon people, don't go looking for trouble and it won't find you. (p.s. I have yet to be accidentally shot, tazed, maced or falsely accused....just lucky I guess?!)