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#31 BobbiMcGee

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Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:42 AM

QUOTE (Bill Z @ May 11 2010, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder how long the earliest of homo sapiens breast fed. Milk is a natural source of calcium and animal fat proteins. Bone growth does need lots of calcium and grey matter is mostly fatty tissues, so too low of protein and fats could effect brain growth and development. So to me that would be the argument against children being vegan, they really should get milk and milk products, both sources of animal fat without requiring the killing of the beast. nuts are also a good source of proteins for those on a low or no meat diet.


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Cow's Milk is the Perfect Food for Baby Calves
But Many Doctors Agree:
It is Not Healthy for Humans
by Michael Dye


People who have been taught that cow's milk is the "perfect food" may be shocked to hear many prominent medical doctors are now saying dairy consumption is a contributing factor in nearly two dozen diseases of children and adults.

Doctors say cow's milk can lead to iron deficiency anemia, allergies, diarrhea, heart disease, colic, cramps, gastrointestinal bleeding, sinusitis, skin rashes, acne, increased frequency of colds and flus, arthritis, diabetes, ear infections, osteoporosis, asthma, autoimmune diseases, and more, possibly even lung cancer, multiple sclerosis and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.

In American society, one of the most sacred of all sacred cows is the milk of the cow itself. Cow's milk is more American than apple pie, but that's because apple pie doesn't have Congressional lobbyists and a multi-million dollar advertising budget. Most parents wouldn't think of raising their children without the benefit of cow's milk to help their little bones to grow big and strong. Its silky, white texture is the very epitome of our concept of wholesome purity.

Our "nutritional education" in school (funded in part by the dairy industry) taught us that dairy products are one of the four basic food groups we all need for proper nutrition. And with more than 60 of the most powerful Congressional leaders in Washington receiving campaign contributions from the National Dairy Council, we can be assured that dairy products are well-entrenched as a major staple of our government-sponsored school lunch programs.


You can read the rest of this article at: Cow's milk is bad for humans


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Posted 21 July 2010 - 02:26 PM

Change that article to say cows milk is good for calves and not kittens_

and it would be the exact same article I read a few years ago.

Doctors have been saying for years that milk is a highly developed product meant specifically for the species it comes from.

However, I saw them go on to state that goats milk is actually better to give newborn kittens, than cows milk.

Less complex fats and proteins.

you really dont need meat to survive and be healthy.

you just need to know how to feed yourself a healthy, well rounded diet.

have you ever noticed that in certain times of the year, you crave things more than other times of the year?

Like- I crave oranges in January. Where do oranges grow (naturally) in January?
I do think our bodies still operate on seasonal/starvation mode. They tell us what we should be eating to stay healthy.




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Posted 21 July 2010 - 02:48 PM

I had a BIL that went on a candy bar only diet for awhile. Believe it or not, he's a runner in his late 60's now, but I think he's gone back to a more normal balanced diet. but he was on his candy bar diet for at least a year.
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 10:42 PM

QUOTE (Inwit @ Jul 21 2010, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had a BIL that went on a candy bar only diet for awhile. Believe it or not, he's a runner in his late 60's now, but I think he's gone back to a more normal balanced diet. but he was on his candy bar diet for at least a year.


Gosh, who hasn't tried some wacky diet as some time in their lives? I remember one where I ate only a different kind of fruit each day, but as much as I wanted of that fruit. I think I lost just out of boredom!

There's lots of info on this site about vegetarian and vegan diets: Vegsource

The owners of the site have twin daughters that are 14 or 15 and have been vegan all their live, they've never eaten meat or dairy. There are several videos of them on the site doing interviews and some of dance recitals they've been in. The site is a great resource for anyone interested in a vegan diet.

#35 jamesnelson1

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 11:36 AM

No, meat protein isn't needed. My 13 year old daughter has never had any meat or fish and she's incredibly healthy, barely ever gets sick and is an a+ student so her brain is healthy too.

She has a need for different types of protein such as both dairy and legume (beans and nuts.) Obviously not everyone needs dairy but her body does. It's good to have a variety of proteins.



yeah it is absolutely right meat protein is not necessary. i am also vegetarian and quite healthy.so it doesn't need
having meat for rich protein.




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Posted 21 September 2010 - 11:53 AM

I think it's objectionable to read about small children who are vegetarians or teenagers who have never eaten meat. Obviously these children have not been given a choice and I think it's wrong for parents to withhold perfectly healthy foods from their children just because the parents eat a certain way.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 12:16 PM

I think it's objectionable to read about small children who are vegetarians or teenagers who have never eaten meat. Obviously these children have not been given a choice and I think it's wrong for parents to withhold perfectly healthy foods from their children just because the parents eat a certain way.


I can agree and disagree with that statement. As a child I was never given beef of any kind and still as an adult I do not eat beef or pork.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 02:53 PM

I think it's objectionable to read about small children who are vegetarians or teenagers who have never eaten meat. Obviously these children have not been given a choice and I think it's wrong for parents to withhold perfectly healthy foods from their children just because the parents eat a certain way.

hmmm

do you eat menudo? Monkey brains? Small cats? A wee bit of Dog? Snail? Liver?

Would you serve it to your kids and tell them they need to eat it-but you have already made a choice as an adult that you won't?


I think that this is a parental choice. How you choose to raise your kid. Some of it is cultural, some of it is personal like or dislike, some it may be a fetish. Though, few people truly eat foods as an adult that they just can't stomach. So they don't prepare it. They don't ask their children to eat something they wouldn't eat.

I personally find it objective to make steaks and hamburgers for my kids and I can't stand the smell of it cooking.
I have been doing it for the kids--but it grosses me out.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 04:53 PM

I think it's objectionable to read about small children who are vegetarians or teenagers who have never eaten meat. Obviously these children have not been given a choice and I think it's wrong for parents to withhold perfectly healthy foods from their children just because the parents eat a certain way.


Thank you for knowing what's best for my family. (insert sarcastic look here)
My husband and I don't withhold anything from our daughter. She doesn't tolerate meat protein and thus chooses not to eat it. Even as a child, it was like torturing her to even have her try it. We've been to at least 8 pediatricians over the years and every one agreed that very often a child will refuse to eat foods that their bodies cannot tolerate well.

Would it be easier if she ate a more "well-rounded" diet? Yes? Am I going to force her to? No. Do I care what anyone else thinks? I think you know the answer to that. Couldn't care less.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 08:15 PM

Just for the record... you can't be a vegetarian and still eat fish. Doesn't work that way.



Learned something new at Trader Joes the other day.......

Pescatarian: Occasionally used to describe those who abstain from eating all meat and animal flesh with the exception of fish. Although the word is not commonly used and a pescatarian is not technically a vegetarian, more and more people are adopting this kind of diet, usually for health reasons or as a stepping stone to a fully vegetarian diet. Pescetarians often believe that moderate consumption of fish or fish oils, which are high in Omega-3 fatty acids, is necessary for optimum health, although vegetarian alternatives, such as flax seed oil, are available.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 02:03 AM

Learned something new at Trader Joes the other day.......

Pescatarian: Occasionally used to describe those who abstain from eating all meat and animal flesh with the exception of fish. Although the word is not commonly used and a pescatarian is not technically a vegetarian, more and more people are adopting this kind of diet, usually for health reasons or as a stepping stone to a fully vegetarian diet. Pescetarians often believe that moderate consumption of fish or fish oils, which are high in Omega-3 fatty acids, is necessary for optimum health, although vegetarian alternatives, such as flax seed oil, are available.

And pollotarians eat chicken/turkey/poultry but not red meat.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 08:09 AM

Thank you for knowing what's best for my family. (insert sarcastic look here)
My husband and I don't withhold anything from our daughter. She doesn't tolerate meat protein and thus chooses not to eat it. Even as a child, it was like torturing her to even have her try it. We've been to at least 8 pediatricians over the years and every one agreed that very often a child will refuse to eat foods that their bodies cannot tolerate well.

Would it be easier if she ate a more "well-rounded" diet? Yes? Am I going to force her to? No. Do I care what anyone else thinks? I think you know the answer to that. Couldn't care less.


Obviously an existing medical issue is another matter.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 04:33 PM

Obviously an existing medical issue is another matter.

according to me always eating meant and all is not good we have to vegetarian...being vegetarian u will be healthy
workout is very must....





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Posted 22 September 2010 - 08:07 PM

according to me always eating meant and all is not good we have to vegetarian...being vegetarian u will be healthy
workout is very must....





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What?

#45 MrsTuffPaws

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 09:08 PM

What?

I think a lack of protein was at work there. :P




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