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[Darth Lefty]

But Bill, habanero sauce on wings isn't authentic

[Bill Z]

But Bill, habanero sauce on wings isn't authentic

I've never claimed to like "authentic" "buffalo wings". I like "hot wings" which can have any kind of sauce or seasoning on them. Carribean jerk chicken wings can be real spicy (as a note, BW3's Carribean Jerk isn't real Jerk). I had a Jamaican friend that invited me to a BBQ, I know what authentic Jerk is like.

[Thinkingoutloud]

I've been to that one once. No better or worse than any other. One of my daughters wants me to take her there for their all you can eat wings night, which I believe is on Wednesdays.

Ok, I just have to ask you Steve... it doesn't make you a tad bit uncomfortable to go to a place named after women's breasts and their main advertising focus is all about waitress and their breasts with your daughter???

[SunshineServices]

Ok, I just have to ask you Steve... it doesn't make you a tad bit uncomfortable to go to a place named after women's breasts and their main advertising focus is all about waitress and their breasts with your daughter???

Doesn't every woman have them? Why should they be ashamed? Why should WE be ashamed?

[Steve Heard]

Ok, I just have to ask you Steve... it doesn't make you a tad bit uncomfortable to go to a place named after women's breasts and their main advertising focus is all about waitress and their breasts with your daughter???

When my kids were small, I wouldn't have taken them there, but now at nearly 18 and 22, they know who they are and are comfortable around other women and their parts. I've never been there with them, but they do want to go, and I don't have a problem with it.

I tried to raise them to be strong, confident, independent women, and they're getting there, who have perspective and self-respect.

They have no desire to work at Hooter's and are comfortable with who they are, and they know that with 3 sisters, a wife and 2 daughters, and being the only man in the house, their dad is used to being around women and their parts, too.

Also, Hooter's advertising today seems less exploitive (expoitative? exploitationary?)than when they first started out, and although I can't say I'm disappointed, the waitresses are no longer Playboy Bunny types.

Still, I can appreciate how someone might feel uncomfortable with such a situation, but I'm not. I'll take them there sooner or later. The reasons I haven't so far are that they have only started talking about it in the past few months, and my diet. I used to love all you can eat of anything. The fattier the better. Now, I kinda stay away from that sort of thing, and the Hooter's menu in general isn't a healthy one, hence my rare visits there.

Funny story; my first visit to a Hooter's was on a business trip to Dallas Tx in about 1993. I came back with Hooter's t-shirt, and my then 6 year old pulls it out of the suitcase, looks at it, then glares at me and says, "I know what hooters are!"

I said, "Hooters are owls. That's why they have an owl on the shirt."

She replied, "Yeah, but the EYES are supposed to look like BOOBIES!"

[Thinkingoutloud]

When my kids were small, I wouldn't have taken them there, but now at nearly 18 and 22, they know who they are and are comfortable around other women and their parts. I've never been there with them, but they do want to go, and I don't have a problem with it.

I tried to raise them to be strong, confident, independent women, and they're getting there, who have perspective and self-respect.

They have no desire to work at Hooter's and are comfortable with who they are, and they know that with 3 sisters, a wife and 2 daughters, and being the only man in the house, their dad is used to being around women and their parts, too.

Also, Hooter's advertising today seems less exploitive (expoitative? exploitationary?)than when they first started out, and although I can't say I'm disappointed, the waitresses are no longer Playboy Bunny types.

Still, I can appreciate how someone might feel uncomfortable with such a situation, but I'm not. I'll take them there sooner or later. The reasons I haven't so far are that they have only started talking about it in the past few months, and my diet. I used to love all you can eat of anything. The fattier the better. Now, I kinda stay away from that sort of thing, and the Hooter's menu in general isn't a healthy one, hence my rare visits there.

Funny story; my first visit to a Hooter's was on a business trip to Dallas Tx in about 1993. I came back with Hooter's t-shirt, and my then 6 year old pulls it out of the suitcase, looks at it, then glares at me and says, "I know what hooters are!"

I said, "Hooters are owls. That's why they have an owl on the shirt."

She replied, "Yeah, but the EYES are supposed to look like BOOBIES!"

I get what you are saying. I just think about going with my dad, and thinking that he's eyballing the waitress boobies - well, it just makes me feel "oogy", ya' know?

Doesn't every woman have them? Why should they be ashamed? Why should WE be ashamed?

I don't think I said anyone should be ashamed...what I'm saying is that the restaurant exploits women and as a woman I don't like it. But even more so when I think about going with my dad!

[Steve Heard]

I get what you are saying. I just think about going with my dad, and thinking that he's eyballing the waitress boobies - well, it just makes me feel "oogy", ya' know?


I don't think I said anyone should be ashamed...what I'm saying is that the restaurant exploits women and as a woman I don't like it. But even more so when I think about going with my dad!

My girls are quite used to me and my sense of humor, and they know I use that to put them at ease, so they are unlikely to get weirded out over it.....I think. I'll ask them to be sure, but since they are the ones wanting to go there, I'm thinking not.

Yes, I think they do exploit women, as does everyone who hires an attractive receptionist, sales clerk, account manager, etc. Men (and women) like seeing attractive people when they walk into a restaurant, or into most businesses for that matter. It's just human nature.

I guess there's an imaginary line for everyone, and for me, Hooter's doesn't cross it.

By the way, Hooter's does hire male wait staff, too.

[eVader]

I dont see much of a big difference between Hooter's, airline flight attendantts, models at car shows, any trade or consumer shows, TV show or newscast down to a bartender or waitress at a local bar other than a tshirt with a suggestive restaurant name.

[thememories]

I can say I love my job and have never felt exploited for the two years I have worked for Hooters. I make very good money while putting myself through college, and have a very good time doing it. My father and mother used to bring me to Hooter's around the country when I was little, first time when I was around aged two. All of our staff love having kids in there, making balloons, hula-hooping with the kids, and plus, kids eat free everyday at the Rancho Cordova location, and free on Saturdays at the Arden location.

[Bill Z]

Ok, I just have to ask you Steve... it doesn't make you a tad bit uncomfortable to go to a place named after women's breasts and their main advertising focus is all about waitress and their breasts with your daughter???

I thought the placed was named for the sound owl's make.

OK, on a more serious note, I would like to tell you about my first ever visit to a Hooters.

It was in Texas and there are two distinct things I remember about it.

One, there was a mixed gender teenage bible study church group having a get together there.

Two, I question the saying "everything is bigger in Texas", the Hooters girls were all members of the IBTC (Itty Bitty (censored) Comittee). With their short shorts and long slender legs, my friends (co-workers) and I joked that we thought this restaurant should be called Leggs.

On the argument of exploitation, sexy is exploited all the time. How about restaurants where the hostess wears a low cut evening gown showing more cleavage than any Hooter's top ever shows? Carl's Jr. ads with Paris Hilton? Boxing matches (ever see an ugly dork prance around with the big card stating what round it is)? Every football game with cheerleaders? The list goes on & on, and it isn't limited to women, Fabio was used to make women swoon.

[Bill Z]

I can say I love my job and have never felt exploited for the two years I have worked for Hooters. I make very good money while putting myself through college, and have a very good time doing it. My father and mother used to bring me to Hooter's around the country when I was little, first time when I was around aged two. All of our staff love having kids in there, making balloons, hula-hooping with the kids, and plus, kids eat free everyday at the Rancho Cordova location, and free on Saturdays at the Arden location.

You make a good point, those who have never been to a Hooter's, have this presumption that the people that go their are a bunch of dirty ole men drinking beer and oogling. They have no idea how much of a Family restaurant environment it really is.

I might not think much of their hot wings, but it isn't a bad place to go. Maybe I'll try the Teriyaki wings next time I go. The car club I'm a member of goes about once every two years to a Hooters.

[MrsTuffPaws]

I have no issue with the concept of Hooters, but their "Toy Yoda" promotion from several years ago certainly left a sour taste in my mouth. Their official dress code is rather comical as well, but I guess if the employees don't mind, why should I?

[Oldschooler81]

I dont see much of a big difference between Hooter's, airline flight attendantts, models at car shows, any trade or consumer shows, TV show or newscast down to a bartender or waitress at a local bar other than a tshirt with a suggestive restaurant name.

I agree with you. Honestly I think if it weren't for the name it wouldn't be such a big deal, lol. Remember in the Adam Sandler movie Big Daddy how his ex Vanessa worked at a Hooters and it was sort of a punchline several times? As much as I love that movie, I wouldn't be surprised if stuff like that unfairly contributed to the stereotypes.

I actually went to one in SJ last year and it's really no different than something like Outback Steakhouse or Chili's...a little expensive and noisy inside, but awesome food and a really nice atmosphere. I'm not suaying there aren't times where some beliggerant/drunk guys might start making passes at the girls working there, but that's of course possible anywhere you go.

[Chad Vander Veen]

I'm sad to say I've never been to Hooters. Anyone who wants to take me is welcome.

[Michael Hughes]

Not to get too off topic but on the Hooters comments:

1) I will never step foot in there again. My first time was my last. I walked in and a woman was doing something with a zip line or something overhead and cut herself and started running around (employee mind you) with her hand bleeding severely (I would be surprised if it didn't need stitches). And I mean running back and forth all the through the waiting area with other employees being grossed out and not helping but just more freaking out. I walked out and will not go back.

2) Sitting there having scantily clad women serve me food is not my idea of a good time. Frankly that is disgusting and a health code violation. Put some clothes on.

Buffalo Wild Wings is going to be awesome!!