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[firemedic238]

Kids working for profit? give me a break!!!! Show me one kid that didn't have FUN "working" at or for this game. For many this will be one of the high points of their High School years. If ESPN AKA Disney made a buck so be it. With that said,don't take your family to Disneyland or to half of the movies out. Disney has the hand in everything.

[the_professor]

FCUSD whored out Folsom High's staff and students to ESPN for $2,000 so a select few could feel good about themselves for a few days.

[Redone]

FCUSD whored out Folsom High's staff and students to ESPN for $2,000 so a select few could feel good about themselves for a few days.

I am troubled by your post and by Supermam post.

I can't believe that there are people like this in our Folsom community.

[Dave Burrell]

I am troubled by your post and by Supermam post.

I can't believe that there are people like this in our Folsom community.

Me neither

[olivia]

Dont forget, the FCUSD sold this game to ESPN to keep the sports program in the district. Not that chess or drama or music is less important but football does sell seats-especially when you BS the public and claim there is rivalry between the two cities. Oh, and the illegallity of working students for profit is waived without ado...in the name of high school football.

So how many of you made sideline bets?

How many of you are curious to find out just how much the district and highschool made on that game? And how that money will be used? Shall the transparency of greed off of our cities youths talent be ignored for a "go bulldog!" scream and some blue paws face paint?

SFUPITT

What is the meaning of sfupitt?

[john]

FCUSD whored out Folsom High's staff and students to ESPN for $2,000 so a select few could feel good about themselves for a few days.

How is it any different than the money the music boosters get from hosting a Jazz Festival every year? It's no different if you ask me - good for them. This will be an event everyone that was associated with will remember all of their life.

[old soldier]

a good team got beat by a bigger better team in a game Folsom High never gave up on...knock off the negative banter and be proud

[Bill Z]

What is the meaning of sfupitt?

I don't know what Supermom means, but I'm going with:

stupid
effing
useless
pain
in
the
tush

[ducky]

I really thought this game was a positive thing for everyone in Folsom. I don't understand the negativity.

It would have been better if Folsom had won, but, hey, it could have been worse.

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[supermom]

FCUSD whored out Folsom High's staff and students to ESPN for $2,000 so a select few could feel good about themselves for a few days.

Please don't put words in my mouth.

All I'm saying is that the after school programs are treated with more instant gratification as far as money throwing than the actual in the classroom classes- that students have. Choir doesn't get that money thrown at it. and the students wouldn't be allowed to sell their services in front of a macy's at "holiday" time, either.

Honestly, we can cut all the AP classes in engineering (Folsom has the highest concentration of engineers in a city--for the entire state, did you know that?)yet, a football game pops up, a few million dollars are bandied back and forth and I don't hear anything about classrooms first...

Isn't there a rule about grades before games?
How about we as adults enforce that concept by insisting that the classes are higher priority?

Heck, the money should be fairly distributed to all the afterschool programs if it doesn't go to the classes.
But hey, I'm just thinking about equality instead of jock favortism....

[Chris]

I got an idea, anybody here in Folsom want to put up a Samoan exchange student for next year...? Students must be Male, 300 pounds or more, age 16 to 18, have a full beard, prior academic achievement irrelevant.... Four of five of them and we will have a rather solid front line next year.....! Sorry, but I could not help myself... Those front line guys on Grant were monsters....! Pac 10 BIG 8 Pro sized...! Do they really live here and did they grow up here..? Are they imported to live with some friends uncles bro in laws nieces nephews second cousin somewhere in Grants district...? I wonder if some reporter somewhere is looking into it...? To have such big kids all in one areas high school district from a very small island in the Pacific Ocean is just amazing to me.
Chris

[mac_convert]

I didn't see anything wrong with Folsom making some money on Friday's game. I would have assumed the money would be shared fairly by ALL sports in the school. As for the choir singing at Christmas?...try it and see. Folsom already has the performing arts center so they shouldn't be charged for the facilities and all the funds from that could go to the music programs at the High School. I think it is sad that in general so little money is spent on education that when a small amount of money is made a BIG deal is made out of what it will be used for!

[awood]

Please don't put words in my mouth.

All I'm saying is that the after school programs are treated with more instant gratification as far as money throwing than the actual in the classroom classes- that students have. Choir doesn't get that money thrown at it. and the students wouldn't be allowed to sell their services in front of a macy's at "holiday" time, either.

Honestly, we can cut all the AP classes in engineering (Folsom has the highest concentration of engineers in a city--for the entire state, did you know that?)yet, a football game pops up, a few million dollars are bandied back and forth and I don't hear anything about classrooms first...

Isn't there a rule about grades before games?
How about we as adults enforce that concept by insisting that the classes are higher priority?

Heck, the money should be fairly distributed to all the afterschool programs if it doesn't go to the classes.
But hey, I'm just thinking about equality instead of jock favortism....

1.) You couldn't sell out a choir concert if you were giving tickets away. Each year teachers bribe their kids with attendance of some choir, band or theater event as "extra credit" in an attempt to just get butts in the seats.

2.) The public is speaking loudly with their $'s. People love sports and kids love to participate in them. So why are you butt hurt about it? Here is an idea, how about we cut out all the band, art AND choir classes? Why not? As many kids make a living in pro sports as they do in music (and don't EVEN count the kids that become music teachers in a self fulfilling prophecy) (p.s. Very bad idea that I am against, but trying to make a point)

3.) There is always a "rule about grades", but why does that matter to you? Are you suggesting that athletes are stupid? Do you want to compare the test scores or GPA of the band kids to the athletes? Many of the kids you call "jocks" also qualify for the label of "nerd" or "smart". Did you watch the game? Do you think schools like Stanford and Cornell are pursuing our kids purely for their athletic ability?

4.) Many adults do insist that grades are a priority. Personally in our house, nothing less than a B is acceptable. That means that throughout the year he has weights before school, school all day, practice and THEN comes home and does his homework before he even eats (his choice). He participates in 3 sports, and goes to practice and or camps all summer, so this is his schedule year round.

5.) So athletics are the first to get cut from the budget, but if you smell a $ you get grabby!? All these kids work their tails off and when THEY are recognized for THEIR efforts and THEIR sacrifice you want them to pay for after school programs for mommy and daddy's that put work before their kids? Or to keep librarians that demand benefits and pay scales that make them cost prohibitive and protest when volunteers want to fill in for them? Their seems to be an injustice in that logic. Kids work their tails off to support their own programs and when a "benefit" is realized, we have to make sure everyone gets a chunk?

What you call "jock favoritism" smells a lot like jealousy. These kids, coaches and teams didn't go cry to the school board about their "benefit package". When the going got tough they pulled up their boot straps, fund-raised and made it happen. If any other portion of the District took the initiative and put in the work, I am sure they could survive. But sitting on your arse with your hand out shouting "Where's MINE!?" just won't get it done.

And in reply to mac_convert; Don't be so sure that just because we have a performing arts center, that its "free". I know the HS baseball team had to pay $1,600 to use their own field a few summers ago. And basketball had to pay similar to use the gym.

[Bill Z]

4.) Many adults do insist that grades are a priority. Personally in our house, nothing less than a B is acceptable. That means that throughout the year he has weights before school, school all day, practice and THEN comes home and does his homework before he even eats (his choice). He participates in 3 sports, and goes to practice and or camps all summer, so this is his schedule year round.

I hope that is because your children are all well capable of doing B level work.

Personally, I don't put a mandatory grade level on my child. I only ask that he does his best. It's when I see low grades from incomplete work that I get upset with him. I do offer him incentives to do well, but a C isn't unacceptable, it just doesn't get rewarded.
I would rather have a happy well adjusted C student than a stressed out unhappy A student (and I pulled straight A's in 18 units of mostly hard classes of my first year at CSUS, but that's because I think Calculus, Physics, & Chemistry were fun, in HS, I skated along getting mostly B's) My point being, while I, myself, am very capable of straight A's in school, it doesn't mean my son is and so I won't put that kind of stress on him.

[awood]

I hope that is because your children are all well capable of doing B level work.

Personally, I don't put a mandatory grade level on my child. I only ask that he does his best. It's when I see low grades from incomplete work that I get upset with him. I do offer him incentives to do well, but a C isn't unacceptable, it just doesn't get rewarded.
I would rather have a happy well adjusted C student than a stressed out unhappy A student (and I pulled straight A's in 18 units of mostly hard classes of my first year at CSUS, but that's because I think Calculus, Physics, & Chemistry were fun, in HS, I skated along getting mostly B's) My point being, while I, myself, am very capable of straight A's in school, it doesn't mean my son is and so I won't put that kind of stress on him.

Hence, the qualifier on "our" personal experience. He is capable of straight A's and has done it 2 out of his 4 semesters in HS with a very full schedule. Our point being that IF something has to go it will be athletics. Rather than run himself ragged, we expect him to do the work he needs to be successful in the classroom. Sports, girlfriend, phone, etc. will all go as needed if he can't keep up his grades.

That said, I totally get what you are saying. His younger brother is not of the same tact and we have different rules for him, very similar to the rules you described for your kid.