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[Redone]

I would've liked to seen promotion from within FPD or at least Sac Sheriff, Sac PD, Placer County, etc.

If we have to go down to Long Beach to hire someone who has never been a Chief then Career Development must be examined in our general suburban area.

[MikeinFolsom]

Kerry Miller came from Long Beach.

[supermom]

http://www.lawoffice...cement-professi

An article on graduating from the Homeland security school.

This school also looks quite competitive. Not just against police officers from all over the US, but it said FD, military...

Out of pure curiousity...I wonder what her thesis was..

[Redone]

Kerry Miller came from Long Beach.

I thought it was Encinitas ?

Anyways, same theory applies to him, unless you want all Dept heads from SoCal.

[MikeinFolsom]

Nope. I agree with you, fully.

[ducky]

So what does she make paywise? Same as the outgoing police chief or less?

[Robert Giacometti]

So what does she make paywise? Same as the outgoing police chief or less?

One would think an experienced CP, would get paid more than one who had no previous experience.

As I recall though, the former CM got the Job with no experience and was the highest paid CM in the region, at that time, according the the Sac Bee.

[ducky]

One would think an experienced CP, would get paid more than one who had no previous experience.

As I recall though, the former CM got the Job with no experience and was the highest paid CM in the region, at that time, according the the Sac Bee.

I found an article that says the new Folsom police chief will be making $178,992, which looks comparable to the $174,000 Roseville's new police chief gets, who was a police captain in Sacramento before becoming chief, but no prior chief experience.

I wish her the best in the new job and hope she'll keep Folsom a safe place to live.

[Robert Giacometti]

I would've liked to seen promotion from within FPD or at least Sac Sheriff, Sac PD, Placer County, etc.

If we have to go down to Long Beach to hire someone who has never been a Chief then Career Development must be examined in our general suburban area.

I think you are on to something here. Bringing in a complete outsider with no CP experience is sending a message of some sort.

Maybe a seasoned CP might start asking questions about all those skeletons and maybe the powers to be don't want that?

Think of it this way, if you were on the council and you were truly happy with the way things were operating within the Department, wouldn't it make sense then to promote a protege? If you were on the council and weren't happy with the way things were going, wouldn't it make sense to bring in a seasoned person to give you an honest apprasial of the situation?

[supermom]

I found an article that says the new Folsom police chief will be making $178,992, which looks comparable to the $174,000 Roseville's new police chief gets, who was a police captain in Sacramento before becoming chief, but no prior chief experience.

I wish her the best in the new job and hope she'll keep Folsom a safe place to live.

is that the present going rate for the roseville chief; or his sign on rate?
as for happy vs unhappy council members---could you possibly be more vague?

[ducky]

is that the present going rate for the roseville chief; or his sign on rate?
as for happy vs unhappy council members---could you possibly be more vague?

I don't know. I found that figure in this 2/7/11 article.
http://rosevillept.com/detail/170884.html

I didn't make any comments about council members. That's Robert's bailiwick and I want no part of it.

[Robert Giacometti]

is that the present going rate for the roseville chief; or his sign on rate?
as for happy vs unhappy council members---could you possibly be more vague?

Either the Council is happy with the way things were going in the department or they weren't. Granted the council doesn't do the hiring, but I suspect some served on the interviewing committee.

Philosophically, if one is happy the way things are running then you typically promote from within to keep the continuity. If you want changes, then you bring in a seasoned person from the outside, who has experience in bringing about change.

There is a reason why we hired someone from the outside without experience. I don't know what the reason was, but I suspect it wasn't about gender.

[supermom]

I don't know. I found that figure in this 2/7/11 article.
http://rosevillept.com/detail/170884.html

I didn't make any comments about council members. That's Robert's bailiwick and I want no part of it.

Yes, sorry. I was responding to different posts at same time

[Nancy]

For a bit of starter help, I sometimes
go by the alias of "tator salad"

Are you Ricky... "tator salad" Kicks..?

Mr. Ruehle,

I do not know Chief Renaud, nor have I ever met her. I do, however, find it interesting that you went out of your way to slam her reputation, and attempt to tarnish her integrity - all before she even takes the helm of the F.P.D. I would believe your efforts to be sour grapes, and to be more blunt - cowardly in fashion. You come off as someone who had a prior agenda some how dismissed, by Commander Renaud, somewhere along the way, no doubt. That happens, yet you took it personally I imagine, and want to obtain a semblance of pay-back. The following are a few flags, which raise scrutiny of your posted allegations... (Both in the Sac.Bee, and now here in this forum.)

1) As Commander (*promoted in 2007)... 4 documented cover up's of D.V's against COP...

Per print available, there were 5 incidents which were alleged. 3 incidents occurred between 1995 to 2002 (8 yrs. ago). 2 incidents were listed in outside jurisdictions - L.A.P.D., and S.D.P.D. I don't think Renaud was a Commander then, and was not part of the decision making at the time. (The City fathers, who should have known of those incidents, still put Batts in as COP in 2002. Shame on them, not on Renaud.)

2) Renaud... did not make the list of candidates for COP of L.B.P.D.

Alright, she didn't make the list. That happens in the game of life. That obviously didn't stop Renaud from trying, did it? Renaud certainly made the COP list this time, and while competing against some very talented individuals.

3) Renaud took extended mental health leave, in 1993... due to being first to arrive at the scene of a murder...?

Why would you even go there? Are you implying a weakness of some sort? Being on scene of death and destruction, committed intentionally, or by accident, can at times be very, very damaging to ones psych. I believe that the true test of Renaud's fortitude, as a street cop, is that she overcame the demons - and got back in the saddle again, prepared for the next time - and there always is a next time while doing the job..!

4) *We can skip this one, perhaps, as it is your subjective view as a 'President,' of an H.O.A. and you were not able to steer all of your requests and demands through the Commander, with your desired outcome. Happens now and then - everywhere.

5) Renaud 'frequently... belittled people in a public forum who questioned the conduct of officers...' under her command.

Having been a participant of these types of 'forums' in the past, could it be that the message of the.. 'question (complaint) of conduct..' was heard loud and clear by Renaud, however, the Commander was not willing to... hold court on her subordinates, in a public forum, while being pressed, without first looking into all available information? Sounds like a good boss, to me.

6) Renaud.... 'refused to release names of officers... involved in misconduct, or shootings.'

That is protocol with most all agencies, and is not out of the norm. The names of the subjects are cleared for release, should they be found in violation of the law in regards to the incident in question. Renaud should not be faulted for following regulations and protocol.

7) As Commander, Renaud... 'inherited meetings with the public... which she frequently avoided and sent subordinates instead.'

Why is that a bad thing? As a Commander, charged with overseeing several divisions from within, I'm sure at times they're pulled in several directions at once. Besides, a good boss will provide opportunities to their charges, to gain experience and personal growth, in being a part of such assignments. Sometimes people refer to it as 'mentoring,' and yet, some people take it as a slight.... Come on, man, this complaint is more personal for you, than it is a reflection of Renaud's short comings.

8) Soon after becoming Commander... Renaud advised resident assoc.'s (H.O.A.'s) that L.B.P.D. representation at meetings would be 'reduced..' at future meetings.

Renaud (2007) 'reduced' attendance, but did not eliminate their attendance. Was this the beginning of budget reductions? I believe so. Perhaps it was prudent of the Commander to tighten and better manage her budget. Sounds like she remained responsive to the needs of your HOA, but probably needed to reduce the expense of doing so? Again, the sign of a good boss. Reduce costs, but don't leave no one high and dry.

9) L.B. officers question whether (Renaud's) 'sex... was the reason for her quick rise through the ranks.'

You're digging deep here, pal. We could have fun with this approach to Renaud's success, I guess, since you place stock in those demeaning assertions. After all, it would require less brain power - and admittedly - make for a better 'knuckle-dragger' conversation within your circles, no doubt. And for those sources of yours who offered that up as a reason for Renaud's successes, they quite possibly use that way of thinking so they don't have to consider their own short comings... (no pun intended.) Enough said.

I welcome Chief Renaud, and wish her the best of success in her new position at the F.P.D...!!

Be safe....

+1, and exhibit A of why Irish1 is one of my very favorite MyFolsomites.

Also... MikeRuele has obviously never been part of a community that has its roots deeply embedded in small town America. The thing that he doesn't understand about Folsom is that as soon as Ms. Renaud was named as the new police chief, she became a Folsomite. She's family now.

We tend to circle the wagons around here.

Welcome to the new police chief..,

who happens to be a woman...

Not that it matters.



Nancy

[nomad]

I found an article that says the new Folsom police chief will be making $178,992, which looks comparable to the $174,000 Roseville's new police chief gets, who was a police captain in Sacramento before becoming chief, but no prior chief experience.

I wish her the best in the new job and hope she'll keep Folsom a safe place to live.

Hopefully she'll do better than that previous Roseville chief that let the Galleria nearly burn to the ground.